Cmdr Jeffery Eu
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update of ranks
Admiral----> Legatus
Vice Admiral-----> Praefactus
Commodore----> Tribunus
Senior Commander----> Centurio
Commander----> Centuriae
Junior Commander----> Discens
[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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okay, now that someone is happy with the ranks of Guns For Hire Inc., I would appreciate any other comments on the Charter before I put it up on the Intercorp Website and submitting it to Tacops.
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Jaguar, I really don't think you should be that blatant in your last post especially this part
quote:This may offend some of you as well, but I will say it anyway. The TALIBAN MUST BE DESTROYED, the EL QUAIDA MUST BE DETROYED, Ossama Bin Laden MUST BE DESTROYED!!! The Afghani people are going to suffer in the short term while we do this, but in the long run, they will profit from it.Hey. I'm just as horrified as you over this unreasonable and unjustifiable attacks over in the US but why get so worked up?
I believe that you, aramike, menchise and all the rest have drawn your battlelines from that anyone reading the posts on this thread and the other one can see. So what if others disagree with you, so what if they believe your opinions are wrong. If you think you're right say your piece and forget about the rest. There is no absolute need to shout it out from the "roof tops".
One other thing, the US is not obligated to help out in other parts of the world no matter what the heads and the politicians of both the US and other nations say.
But neverthelesss, the US did give aid to other nations, maybe for their own gains and maybe just out of kindness of their hearts, but if the other nations don't feel grateful about it then just retract the aid.
This is my personal believe, terrorism should not be condoned, killing innocent people are an outrage to our societal morals, yes , the US must take action, but maybe, just maybe instead of doing this by yourselves, the US Government should confer with other allied nations before starting an all out war.
Hey, we're all living on the same planet and
making unilateral decisions like attacking Afghanistan will not benefit anyone at all least of all the US if it turns out to be not just war against terrorists but a World War.
[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Takes a bow and says "Thank you, thank you"
[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Alright, since there has been a call for the change in the names of the ranks to a more civilian one, I came up with this
Admiral -----> Zeus
Vice Admiral -----> Ares
Commodore -----> Boreas
Senior Commander ----> Zephir
Commander -----> Notus
Junior Commander -----> Eurus
There should be no more complains from now on
[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Epsilon, pack of stars removed
quote:2 - A raider division doesn't sound right at all. You seem to forget that raiders are enemies to EVERYONE but other raiders. Raiders are the scum of the galaxy, attacking armed and unarmed castes for no reason but personal gain and destruction. Your raiders will have a good time shooting your trading vessels and decimating merc task-forcesIt depends on your definition of raiders, initially I thought the same as you did but after thinking it over carefully, especially reflecting on the European history of forming privateering companies during the 1800's - 1900's, I saw that incorporating raiders into the Corporation will be beneficial to the Corporation in terms of profit, manpower and new services available.
Anyway, it really depends on the player himself, he could of course play a solo game, or he could organise his own guild or he could join us with all the benefits and privileges available not to mention the connections and resources available.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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I feel that it is necessary to clarify some matters before we move any further.
Intercorp Unlimited is the holding company where a Board of Directors will meet to discuss and brain storm new ways of expanding the group (call it a strategy meeting and partial brain storming group) These Directors will comprise of the Heads of each SubDivision.
The Corporation will levy a 4% fees on each SubDivision quarterly or bi-annually (this is still not settled yet and the 4% seems a bit too little)
Any holding, asset or infrastructure bought in the name of the Corporation can be used as a staging area by any member of the Corporation for a nominal service fee (To be decided later)
Divisions are as listed in my earlier post.
Subdivisions are basically the nuts and bolts of the Corporation. This where we generate income for the Corporation. Each subdivision would have it's own hierarchy of organisation. Only castes of a specific subdivision can stage and launch from any holdings, assets and infrastucture belonging to a specific subdivision. Of course any other member caste can choose to launch from another division's bases but they must pay a service fee. (To be decided later)
Now there is a reason for charging service fee for launching from different subdivision or Corporation bases.
For example Guns For Hire Inc. has a orbital base around Jupiter but a mercenary member needs to fulfill a contract on a planet in Epsilon Eridani, so he could
1) take the time to fly through all the space between Jupiter and Epsilon Eridani running through a gauntlet of hostiles and risking death, damage and losses and thereby being unable to fulfill a contract especially if the contract is to meet a specific dateline, or
2) he could decide to launch from a Commodities Inc. base which is just one jump away from Epsilon Eridani.
However it is unfair to Commodities Inc. for him just to launch from their base without any fees as they have committed time and resources in setting up a base near Epsilon Eridani, while the mercenaries decide to set up on Jupiter, Sol.
So anyone should be able to see where I'm heading with this.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Welcome, and thank you for joining us, it will be a privilege to work with you. As I've stated in my post to Outlaw, you're welcomed to help out in organising, structuring and establishing this Corporation, and any and all efforts on anyone's part will be sincerely appreciated
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Final post for the night,
I'm thinking to amend the perks of each ranking officer of Guns For Hire Inc as follows:-
Admiral-Total waiver of service fee levied;
20% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Power to reject and appoint officers of the Division with the recommendation of the Board of Vice Admirals;
Power to purchase, obtain and built infrastructure and facilities on behalf of the Division with the Division monies;
Purchases of goods and services from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation on behalf of Guns For Hire Inc. will be given a discount of 30%.
Vice Admiral-50% waiver of service fee levied;
15% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Power to recommend the rejection and appointment of all officers of the Division excluding Vice Admirals;
Power to veto AdmiralÔÇÖs decision to purchasing decisions;
Voting power to appoint Admiral;
Power to purchase, obtain and built infrastructure and facilities on behalf of the Division with the Division monies;
Purchases of goods and services from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation on behalf of Guns For Hire Inc. will be given a discount of 30%.
Commodore-25% waiver of service fees levied;
10% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Specific perks allotted by the Admiral and the Board of Vice Admirals.
Senior Commander-Voting power to appoint Vice-Admirals;
5% waiver of service fee levied;
5% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Commander-Voting power to appoint Vice Admirals;
5% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Junior Commander-1% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Right I'm going off to bed now, thanks Epsilon for the ideas.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Well at the moment we have one Trader and Two mercenaries in the Corporation, I would really like any indies of other castes to join in so that we start organising the separate divisions. I feel that it would not be fair for us to draw up the charters' of the other Divisions as we are understandably more interested to set up our own area of interest.
Rico, I forgot to add one more thing, think of the Divisions and SubDivisions as subsidiaries of Intercorp Unlimited and you will understand the direction I'm heading. Of course the heads of each Division and SubDivisions would be called Directors in the holding Corporation.
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quote:Being a merc job office, I don't really see what kind of services the chiefs should be able to make use of. Well, yes I do see. The admiral (I'll adress that later) can hire a group of its members and task it with any personal military efforts he desires. While I don't really see anything illegal about that (your choice, but consider the implications of those actions/orders), what's the point of it? Being the chief of a corporation you should not have any enemies (to fear personally). And market competition shouldn't get out of hand like that, then again, what's legal. Ofcourse, the admiral or board of v-admirals can decide that the properties of Guns For Hire, Inc. need to be protected by a squad/group of it's own members. But then it would be totally charged to the company's account, not to the admiral's or other employee/members
Rico, the Corporation wide discounts need not only apply to hiring people to fight. I was thinking that the Director could employ like for example
1) hiring the Explorers to explore a potential enemy's space as recon,
2) hiring the Scientists to analyse data, artifacts, ships and tech in order to incorporate into the Division for a price of course ,
3)purchasing weapons in bulk from the Traders as supplies for a contract (of course we can just commit suicide and allow the game to reload us afresh but I'm thinking of making that option a very expensive one i.e. loss of rank due to the number of deaths, reduction in prestige in the Corporation and so forth)
4) hiring Raiders to raid behind enemy lines to lower the defenses of an intended target or get more supplies and so forth.
So you see the possibilities are endless, if you have the moola and the imagination (I'm actually gearing the Corporation towards CGO and not necessarily BCM multiplayer, which is why I'm having a hard time to cover all the bases as the economy, politics, infrastructure and universe of CGO is still murky)
quote:Admirals: While i believe an indie that wants to start a business is quite free (or perhaps totally free) in setting up his hierarchy, the title "Admiral" or "vice-Admiral" denotes some measure of power over others below him in the hierarchy. While the (vice-)admiral(s) have total jurisdiction when it comes to how to do business, they have no command power whatsoever over the members. I believe the title is ill-chosen. It does have a nice ring to it, but only if you like to have power over others. Which you don't. If they don't like what is demanded from them then that's it. They don't even have to salute. You're just offering a means to get a job for a certain price. The company offers people with a military occupation, but it is not the military. I recognise Jeffery said Admiral-ity was a placeholder for director-ship, it's just that I would think "director" would be in the first line of thought, instead of admiral.Now, yes, the ranks are at the moment a place holder, but with the approval of Tacops we might make it permanent even though we're NOT per se a fleet. Now I was initially thinking of using the terms Director but after much thinking I feel that it will make it a bit cumbersome, as I foresee that each division would have it's own Director of Personnel, I can just imagine the titles that will be coming up Director of Personnel, Guns For Hire Inc, Operations Division, Intercorp Unlimited followed by the starship name and where they are based.
So if each Division or subdivision could come up with a different set of naming for their directors than we can cut it short like Personnel Commodore, Intercorp Unlimited as we'll instinctively know that rank Commodore are the only ranks used in the Guns For Hire Inc, Operations Division.
Now about insurance policies, well if the Corporation is wealthy enough we could even set up a personnel insurance policy and a public insurance policy under a separate Division whereby relevant pricing would be established.
As you can see the possibilities of the Corporation is limitless and we won't run risk of legal action and accusations that we're a monopoly unlike Microsoft
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DREADA and Tac this is a belated thanks for offering us a place to set up shop, but I think we should not just limit ourselves to one sector of space, ideally we should look for a neutral space to set up our HQ (if and when we're approved) and set up branches in each naval, civilian sector just like the operations of multinational companies.
The main reason I would like to set up the HQ in neutral space so that all indies will not feel that the Corporation is partial or biased towards a certain Government or Race.
We're a Corporation and we go where the money is
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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Outlaw, in case you haven't notice there are only TWO members at the Corporation in the moment, that's Riga and myselves So you're welcome to contribute as much as you want to like for example helping us draw up the charter for the other divisions, adding relevant information to the website, recruit and lure as many indies as possible into the Corporation (Word of caution, which I think you know, don't turn the recruitment into a flame war, ok? I don't think that the Corporation can handle that kind of "bad conduct" at the moment, considering that we aren't even legal yet), and anything else as you see fit. BTW as you can see I haven't really set up myself a "Admiral" for the division as I feel that we're not at the stage whereby ranks are necessary. Wait until our membership count goes up then we'll see about implementing the ranks. Don't worry, any and all efforts on every member's part will be recognised by me and Riga(sorry for speaking on your behalf )
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BTW Riga, I will do the charter on the website as soon as I figure out what changes to make to the charter. I have to learn how to do web programming sooner or later
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Let first add to Riga's welcome speech by saying that you're more than welcome to join us Valdemar!!! At the moment there are no requirements as both Riga and myself are still working on this Corporation and it has not bee approved by Tacops.
Regardless of that I welcome you with open arms and would appreciate any contribution you can make to the enable the successful birth of this pioneering Corporation.
Yes, Riga, Admiral Eu sounds really good!!!
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Sorry for not answering yesterday but my isp was giving me the s**ts kept refusing to refresh the board.
Anyway the discount rates are just a temporary one and you are right, Riga, we can't have such a high discount rate to the detriment of our fellow members, if you think of something tell me. Meanwhile I think of something up as well, that Business Degree that i have must be good for something
Yes, my email is still current is just that the isp was under repair yesterday.
Thanks for the suggestion Epsilon, it sounds really good, but we'll have to see how to work it into the Corporation economics and the universe economics (which is rather hard as we don't really know how the Supreme Commander intends to set up the economy) Like for example what kind of privileges and bonuses to give.
$iLK, this is not a fleet. The rankings are just a formality to indicate the position of each Director instead of using the words, Directors, managers, supervisors Anyway since we're mercenaries, that means that we're at least semi or partially of the navy.
Damn, I forgot that in CGO there will also be ground and sea based assets, the mercenaries would have to provide services in that area as well. I've got to rework the charter and the hierarchy.
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Hierarchy of Guns For Hire Inc.
Admiral
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Board of Vice Admirals
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Contracts Commodore | |
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| Personnel Commodore |
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Commanders
Description of Positions
Admiral: Administrator of Division and implementers of Division Policy, Rules & Regulations vide Board of Vice Admirals
Perks: Power to override all contracts and also call on the help of any mercenary member only in dire circumstances;
55% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Power to reject and appoint officers of the Division with the recommendation of the Board of Vice Admirals;
Power to purchase, obtain and built infrastructure and facilities on behalf of the Division with the Division monies.
Responsibilities: Must abide by all the rules and regulations of the Corporation and the Division at all times;
Be held responsible for any and all infringements of mercenary members;
Must answer to the Board of Directors of the Corporation and also the Board of Vice Admirals.
Vice Admiral: Administrators of the Division Policy, Rules & Regulations and advisory capacity on the Board of Vice Admirals (Up to a maximum of 10 Vice Admirals)
Perks: 45% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Power to recommend the rejection and appointment of all officers of the Division excluding Vice Admirals;
Power to veto AdmiralÔÇÖs decision to purchasing decisions;
Voting power to appoint Admiral.
Responsibilities: Must abide by all the rules and regulations of the Corporation and the Division at all times;
Investigating of offenses and implementation of penalties;
Hearing and deciding on offenses and penalties;
Internal audit of Division finances and holdings;
Must answer to the Board of Vice Admirals and the Admiral.
Commodore: Administrator of departments and implementers of directives from the Admiral and the Vice Admirals (subject to number of Commanders)
Perks: 25% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Specific perks allotted by the Admiral and the Board of Vice Admirals.
Responsibilities: Must abide by all the rules and regulations of the Corporation and the Division at all times;
Specific responsibilities allotted by the Admiral and the Board of Vice Admirals.
Senior Commander: Members that have distinguished themselves in the performance of their contracts and have exemplary records with the Corporation.
Perks: Voting power to appoint Vice-Admirals;
15% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Responsibilities: To ensure the good name of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or its Subdivisions are preserved at all times and in all acts;
Not to misuse the facilities and holdings of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.[/]
Commander: Members that have distinguished themselves in performance of their contracts
Perks: Voting power to appoint Vice-Admirals;
10% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Responsibilities: To ensure the good name of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or its Subdivisions are preserved at all times and in all acts;
Not to misuse the facilities and holdings of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Junior
Commander: New members
Perks: 5% discount on all goods and services purchased from all divisions and subdivisions of the Corporation;
Not bound by the rules and regulations of the Corporations and the Division when outside the holdings and facilities of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
Responsibilities: To ensure the good name of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or its Subdivisions are preserved at all times and in all acts;
Not to misuse the facilities and holdings of the Corporation, its Divisions and/or Subdivisions.
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Guns For Hire Inc.
A subdivision of the Operations Division of Intercorp Unlimited
Charter
1. That Guns For Hire Inc. caters to all Intercorp Unlimited members of the mercenary caste without fear or favour to all;
2. That Guns For Hire Inc. being a subdivision of Intercorp Unlimited subscribes to the Corporation Charter in its entirety and all rules and regulations are duly enacted under the same Charter;
3. That Guns For Hire Inc will provide a point of contact for all mercenary members seeking employment and all clients seeking employees;
4. That Guns For Hire Inc. will obtain, ascertain and compile all necessary facts and details of each mercenary member into a database to enable any potential clients to choose the best mercenary available for the contract;
5. That Guns For Hire Inc. will not be held liable for whatsoever breach of contract terms, damages incurred, property destroyed or lives taken by its employees once the contract has been agreed upon;
6. That Guns For Hire Inc. does however hold a legal and moral responsibility to surrender said offender to appropriate authorities for legal action. And will do so to the extent of providing all information and last known position of said offender;
7. That Guns For Hire Inc. will obtain and confirm all information from potential clients before contacting their future employees. However, Guns For Hire Inc. will not be held liable for any losses due to a shortcoming in information or wrongful information provided;
8. That Guns For Hire Inc. will provide a platform to pursue all legal action in the event of Rule 7;
9. That Guns For Hire Inc. will charge a 4% service fee on the employer upon the agreement of the contract by both parties;
10. That all monies collected will be used on the subdivision after the appropriate cut to the Corporation;
11. That all member mercenaries are to abide by all rules and regulations of the Corporation, its Division and Guns For Hire Inc. as long as they are on the grounds the Corporation, its Division or Guns For Hire Inc.ÔÇÖs facilities. Guns For Hire Inc. will take all necessary means to penalize the said offender upon their failure to do so;
12. The Directors of Guns For Hire Inc. will abide by all rules and regulations at all times.
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Greetings Guys & Gals,
I'm back.
First off, let my start by giving my sincere condolences to any commander that may have a missing friend or relative in both the NY and Washington attacks. I understand the feeling as I have a brother working over there in Alabama, and when I first heard of the attack, I was worried sick.
Secondly, I apologize for my lack of response especially to Riga. As you said I'm being really busy in RL as I just got married Yes, I've tied the knot with a very beautiful and understanding woman and am just getting used to sharing my life with another person (p.s. parents don't count ) And I've just returned from 3 weeks of honeymoon. So when I get some time I start posting!!! BTW Riga glad you sent the charter to tacops.
Till then, I'm heading home for some snookie if you know what I mean
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Riga, the charter looks fine for now. In fact, it's a great charter.
We might have to refine it later Ok?
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Well, I agree with everything Riga said.
But Rico try to remember that the whole intention of creating this organisation, hell call it what it is, this corporation, is actually to provide an unofficial stepping stone for all indies. There is no call for everyone to sign up, but of course any interested parties are more than welcomed.
The idea of having a large corporation with separate divisions is actually my idea. The reason for this is simple, better to start of with a big infrastructure for the corporation so that any or all members can join in to create a logical, feasible and viable background for the organisation both in RP and MP. This IMHO is much better than squeezing in details later if we were to start out with a smaller specialized guild/organisation.
The second reason is so that all indies can gather under one roof to organise resources so that when GCO comes out the corporation can build a base or multiple bases either planetside or orbital where commanders can launch from. Of course there is no reason why a single commander can't purchase and built a space station but would it be fun MP & RP wise? This of course is subject to each person's opinion, but in my books, MP means basically that multiplayer.
Thirdly, I understand that not everyone would be interested in joining such a large conglomerate, but I could try right. And Riga seems to understand this, because as I see it, he want's to establish a traders division that is separate from the main entity but still could rely on some links if need be. This is the reason for having trade and services discounts for members.
Finally, being under one roof, I can play out my desire being in large ship movements,battles and so forth, imagine Battlestar Galactica, which is my whole intention from the begining.
Now no one says that the organisation stucture will always stay the same, in fact we're still on the long hard road of trying to figure out what and how the hell to do it.
So I personally welcome your suggestions, but I would really welcome with open arms all indies who wish to join in the fun and make this little effort of Riga's and mine successful.
As a great man once said,"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
BTW Riga great charter, of course subject to change
[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Jeffery Eu ]
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You're right Rico,
Well please remember that that was just a draft charter, subject to approval from the tacops and also all our members. On the other hand what's the point of being a director if you do not have some privileges
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Goodday mates,
Well as promised I have posted some of the many logos I have created. I have not been able to upload the rest as I'm having trouble converting from TIF format to JPG format. Will update this post later.
www.stormpages.com/intercorp/content/Logo.html
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*gasp* I'm impressed!!!Better yet I'm waiting with all my appendages aquivering
Ideas for "What is BCM's genre" quandary.
in Battlecruiser Series
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LOL,
I would personally go for THE GAME no niches no stereotyping as there is no equivalent