street228

well, you have a very good argument, concerning the bible, and that its related new testament stories COULD indicate the wedding, which jesus was involved with. It COULD have been his, or one of his families, but everything you have deduced is speculative, and no more valid, than many other speculations as to the personal conscripts which surrounded the life of Jesus and the traditions of the area during the occupation of the old roman empire. However, one can equally attach Him to the Essene's which were established during the reign of soloman. They where the group set outside the city and kept the ancient biblical text. Jesus' serman on the mount was a quote from the book of enoch, and popular among the Essene movement. The early church, setup by the early apostoles was also a duplicate to the Essene established traditions. And, in such case, Rabboni, was a title(meaning master or TEACHER) and applied to those who specifically were NOT married, and were keepers of the WORD or scriptures. One theory, is by no means, more substantial than any other. It all comes down to FAITH. or what one chooses to believe.

quote:Sorry, it may not be known all that well here in the states, but in Europe, it is a well established fact. The family line exists... and their records, along with other proofs, prove that statement to indeed be fact. How is it, you, and those you refer to in EUROPE, are privy to such information, and ASTUTE scholars from around the world, are not?....just makes me wonder, what is considered "PROOF", by your definition.

flat screen tv, is nothing compared to freedom. I would rather be free, own nothing, and sleeping in the woods, rather than be locked in a cage, with ALL the luxury society has to offer

quote: Jesus was married to Mary Magdelene, and had children, the crucifiction, if it actually occurred, was faked and Jesus and his family escaped to France. That family line is alive Jag, come on!. That which I just quoted from you, has NO PROOF, and has NOT been substantiated through historic proofs, or archeological research. At the very best, it is nothing, but opinion offered by SOME scholar. And if you believe it, then you are right in asserting your religious beliefs are your own. Personaly I believe the Messanger is equally as important as the message he contained, in that, I could not contain the ESSENCE of the Message he brought to man. But, that is MY belief. I agree, that western christianity has developed, in a way, other than the original Esseanic teachings; however, I personally would not Tempt that which I know of as GOD, in belittling the MESSANGER. to each their own, I suppose.

quote:AFAIK the only officer that influence the reading of the fighter is the COMBAT ENGINER.... our beloved Resnig if that be the case, then I suppose my observations were a bit off; never-the-less, the way to get them active with(whatever)officer off duty, is as I suggested, EbonyKnight. I suppose, the fact that my computer seems to do the flying when I am not; sort of, makes the flight officer's job a little redundant. Because; of this, I only assumed the Flight officer was responsible for assigning the FLIGHT ENGINEERS. thanks for the insight, DenyMala.

"gimme a $4000.00 pair of vertual reality glasses,a 'full feed back vertual reality suit', and hook me up to the main frame!!!" what do you get? "real life...written into the script of one's own choosing! LOL

FINE, fine ...very fine line betwixt insanity and all out GENIUS. (street)

wait, 10 to 20 years, for some real powerful computers, and that would be an interesting implimentation for, physics accurate, CAD designs!! "could you imagine....the resources needed? :shocked:

quote: Oh, and the time is coming, when that truth will be revealed, and the Crhistians in this country anyway will be in major shock, but if you concentrate on the message, instead of the messenger, then you just might make it with your faith intact. And the time is coming soon, he's needed now more then ever, and when he shows up, he will not be the person you think he should be.... and he will NOT be coming from heaven, which will be even a greater shock, and when he shows his genealogy, you Christians are going to realize what happened, or claim that he is the anticrhist. Should be fun to watch. me? I am going to try and help if I can, and if not, I'll sit and watch it unfold. In those quotes, you sound like a free mason friend of mine, Jaquar. "People can only recognize, that which they are capable, and at any given point in time. No more; and, no less.".............(i.e. appears as a relative truth for every individul. No one person, to be excluded)

quote:For all intensive purposes to them, I wasn't even there. I attempted a conversation with one of them and got a look like I was a water spot on his Beemer. I had never felt so invisible in my life.I was thinking, "shove a Yugi Oh up your crannies vertically" you anti social misfits. Just like anywhere else: "there are the good and the bad" Not ALL hams are anti social misfits, with their nose's up in the air.( My ham club has its own club house and private air strip, and some of those guys think their sh*t dont stink. but many of them are down to earth, real people, too. )

you probaby assigned the flight engineers through tactical/crew/etc. and your Flight Officer was off duty. try going through : tactical/launch/ and check to make sure the engineers are assigned to ready each FC. click on the up arrow to assign them.(this is what I ran into when my flight officer was not on the bridge)

LOL Jag, I knew that was going to fire you up. lol you probably know me....LOL I agree with your reference the advances in technology...but maybe I have my own ideas, as to what is classified as advanced. Yes, I work satallites. I have so many qso cards I now just drop them in a box.(I use to put them in scrap books, and even framed some of the more memorable ones). but in good nature: "how dare you call my old home brews dirty... I could put my old station next to any of the new fangled digital equipment any day" Now, rather than build the old stuff, I build my own designs, using proto-boards, w/surface mount technology...cheaper/better than you could buy an alinco....lol(believe it or not) But yes you are correct, REMEMBER PACK RAT? Now, for everones information: Pack Rat was a packet communication device, which the internet was developed and is still based. As well as phone modems and the new DSL everyone is familiar with. Gore invented NOTHING..he only help impliment what was already invented. "BY A HAM OPERATOR" Oh.... (just picken at u jag!)

quote: Interesting discussion. PArt of what Jag said made me remember something. What's that warning you see on various devices "This device is a class such and such device. those are lables, which manufacturers place on electronic equipment "FCC compliance verification or certification under part 15, subpart B, section 15,1003,paragraph © of FCC rules. Most of them state." this device MUST accept interference, even if the interference may cause a n undesirable affect of its intended operation" If the device does not fall into the catagory which requires FCC complience verification. This only applies to US manufactured or foreign imports(for sale in the US or US territories. Copies of Part 15 of the FCC rules can be obtained from the FCC web site at http://www.fcc.gov I also hold a Ham or Amateur Radio ticket, and though, I have noticed some interference on various HF bands during some weather conditions, which may(or may NOT) be due to local plasma televisions, I see very little difference between the level of interference we hams endure today, and that which we endured 30 years ago. Besides, 80% of HF intereference is atmosphere related, and only about 20% man made. HF is a really lousy way to communicate, and extremely out dated. The sooner we HAMS get into the more advanced idea of using the satalites and repeater nodes, coupled with intergrating our old, and outdated concepts with the new ideas and experimentation: The sooner, we Hams can once again, consider ourselves worthy to be called Hams. I remember when, I had to build my equipment, or not have any equipment. Today, they just buy a radio, and have no idea how to filter out specific noise or signals, and raise the signal to noise ratio in their recievers.

quote: Ask your co-workers mysterious questions, and scribble their answers in a notebook. Mutter something about "psychological profiles". Think I am going to try this one on my techs..

I have run into it too Shingen, Only seems to happen to me, when I deploy 2 or more, and the longer I leave them out, the more likely I am to have one vanish. Maybe the GPS is acting up, but they're still out there...lol. I have been putting one out at a time. slow, but I do my mining, while I sleep at night..so it really isnt much of a setback for me. I like spending four days sitting around mining. The real time process of the game is what I like the most. If you really think about it, real life would'nt be so different. Sh*t happens...right? NOT EVERYTHING that happens..is an issue...just like life: "ROLL/ROLE with the punches"

quote: Originally posted by Jaguar: The only problem with this technology is that it is RF noisy, and ham radio operators, like myself are against this technology because HF goes right out the window, we cannot hear anything BUT the BOP, which kills our HF bands completely and makes them useless, and EVERYONE has power lines near their homes, so no matter where a Ham radio operator goes, the HF bands will be dead because of the Broadband over powerlines. hey, Jaguar. Glad to see your into ham radio. I doubt the idea of broadband piggybacked on the power grid will be implimented any too soon. If so, looks like building better filters, would be appropriate. Hard for me to imagine, full duplex repeaters with transmitters and recievers sitting on top each other, and using the same antenna, can filter out interference from each other, but a decent antenna system placed above the power lines, could not function in the hf with proper filtering techniques. anyway, "thats what morse code is for", it is tremedously proficiant at getting through the most horribly imagined conditions....73,s

I was under the impression you could exit any craft which was set down on a planet...guess, I have'nt played with the fighters enough. 'learn something new everyday!!' (I love it!!)

Jag, all I want, is to be pointed to a source, ANY source on ANY of the opinions you are presenting. I just have tons of information accumulated over the last 15 years(Most of it in hard copy), and most of the reliable sites, on the web, contradict most of what you say, though there are many web sites which reflect your opinions as fact,but There are no reliable sources behind those sites. I was just curious where your reliable sources were, which you use to feed many of your opinions, you state as fact. POINT THE WAY, and I want to see for myself.

quote:Iraq HAD WMD's, Jag...I'm just curious...Where are you getting this information???. Everything I can dig up...is the administration STILL acknowledging they have not found any WMD's, but only that they MIGHT find them . Please point me to some justification(artical, report, or something) for this opinion you keep posting. If you are referring to pre 1990 gulf war, then forget it. The GAS is the WMD which WE supplied to them, and which they proved they had disposed of prior to the present US Invasion.

@ Jaquar(or kashlon, but my message is to both of you): I dont see it as 'TO LATE FOR CHANGE". I believe the Emperor Has NO Clothes: in that, As long as everyone BELIEVEs nothing can be done;then, nothing can be done. And ONCE again I am referred to; as a Liberal,in a very negative context too, I might add. And once again, I say to you: "I am NO liberal". I just have the limited wisdom, to see that the swing from left to right(and right to left), is all we have to balance the progression of that which YOU TOO fear.(i.e. and jaquar's own confession:) quote:You and I have a lot more in common then I originally thought, at the same time, I know for a fact that it is too late to stop it. If what you say is true, then either way the person that gets elected next time will continue with what's going on. Third party, forget about it, not a chance. This country is on it's way to historical oblivion, a dream that has turned into a nightmare because it has become perverted from what it once was. I truly hope, you both would slow down, and (at least) take a look at the person,s views objectively, before launching an 'all out attack on them'. I humbly suggest, we would ALL benefit from the results, in more coordial, and intellectual conversation. [ 04-28-2004, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:What kind of person am I?: I am a patriotic American in the Jeffersonian sense, who has served his country and sworn an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. At present, we have a domestic enemy who attacks us and our constitution from inside our duly elected government. And frankly my friends it is really starting to piss me off. :hail: ''AMEN ! ! :hail:

I have one further comment to make on this issue, of "so called security" everyone thinks this patriot act is establishing. I frequently go to El Passo(US/Mexico border town), and look at all the inexpensive junk for sale on this side of the border. A friend of mine, was commenting on all the illegal's which were coming into the U.S., and how easy it was for them to cross, if they chose to do so. It,s a fact, that the one's who DIE in truck trailers and train cars are those ignorant of the true ease, by which it can be done. Those are mostly from South America, Honduras, Panama etc. etc. We were having a friendly debate, on how we would go about crossing the border, and how ANY illegal could do so. Later, that evening, we made a bet. I bet I could come from Mexico into the U S and would not be caught, but if He crossed into mexico from the U S, he would be most likely be stopped. He would stay at the motel for 24 hours, and I would take a bus across the border in a legal way. He would then cross at a remote location,(about 14 miles west of El Paso)into mexico,that we had agreed upon. I would cross at the approx same time and location,INTO the U.S. We did this in July of the year(2002). The End result? I easily scaled the delapitated fence, and waded into the river. The mud was knee deep and the current was swift. After about an hour of hard,physical, exhausting work; I made it to the US side,and climbed the fence. When I was at the top of the fence, I realized the razor wire, was facing the continent, and NOT the river(thank GOD).Then I noticed a Border Patrol vehicle sitting about 200 yards off. I could just see the shape of the officer in his car. My heart jumped for a moment, expecting the coming confrontation.I could'nt imagine him not seeing this dirty, mud-caked man, gingerly climbing down the face of this 15'-20' high chain link;all the while, squeezing between the razor wire and a floppy, slightly bent section of the fence. At the bottom, I walked away from the fence. I knew the Border Patrol was just up over the embankment.I figured I had already been caught, so I walked down the off road trail through sparse dead grass and brush, and right up to the Border Patrol vehicle. He didnt even blink,so I walked right past him looking at him, and him staring at me. My friend was nowhere to be seen. The officer did not stop me, so I didnt stop to say anything to the officer. I arrived at the hotel, around noon the following day.(helluva trip back) When I arrived, I took a shower and passed out. My friend was nowhere to be found, and he had the car. I spent 4 days calling the police,hospitals, his wife and etc. Finally, he called the motel. They let him have a phone call from the El Paso police dept.(The El Paso Police,for three days, told me they didnt know anything about this guy) He had been Arrested for attempting to cross the border illegally, and the car impounded. I bailed him out. We spent 4 trips in the following 14 months. $8000.00 in lawyer fees, to get him cleared of felony charges. We CANNOT get the car. They kept it on SUSPICIAN that he was using it with the intent to traffik drugs(You know the DRUG WAR thing passed in 1993) And Even though we proved our intentions, and his degree of innocence to the drug thing, they still say they are justified in seizure of the vehicle and in keeping it. My point is this: EVERY law ever passed IS used in violation to which it is intended. Maybe NOT every single time, but a LOT of the time.(I get this from the fact that the Federal Dept of Corrections ADMITS that 12% and up to 25% of their incarcerated inmates, are "possibly and most likely innocent") Dont think for a second, that, just because you have not NOTICED the missing RIGHTS, that those missing rights will NEVER affect you. If and When, you find yourself in a situation, where they do, It wil be too late, and NO ONE ELSE will care. The Patriot act would be good, but goes TOO FAR, And the proposed Patriot Act2 is going even Further. It is NOT that which is public knowledge, but the attached amendments. The wording with wide,Generalizations , which can make political action flyers, constitute an ACT of TERRORISM, or any Group which gathers, GUILTY if ANYONE (Even NOT affiliated with the group)does anything construed as terroristic,EVERY individual within the group is Guilty of terrorism. (they have NO rights and may indeed be put to death after Patriot ActII is invoked) Today!! If you pick a person up walking down the road, and give him a ride to the store. You get pulled over, and he has a crack rock(in a balloon up his butt or anyplace else)and the police find it. The result is You go to jail loose your car and spend time in prison with a felonous record attached to your name. DRUG WAR . NOW WAR on TERRORISM. who'd figure!?? Personally, I see the LYNCH mob mentality and cry fro revenge for 9/11 going much too far into our constitutional rights!! I took an oath, when I entered the military: "TO PROTECT AMERICA from ENEMIES, both foreign AND Domestic" I am very patriotic and take my sworn oath very very seriously. I will FIGHT to the Death, rather than give up MY FREEDOM!!. Oh, I won the $50.00 bet, by the way.

quote:by jaquar:And in all honesty, if they try and force me to give up my rights, you will find me disapearing from the scene very quickly. This country is now a democracy, and if the majority rules, then I am OUTTA here if they rule against me. And where would you; or could you, go and be outside the reach or influence. IF, the U.S. ruled against you?. quote:Name me 1 right that YOU, PERSONALLY, have lost because of the patriot act. Just one, I myself, I haven't lost any rights whatsoever. You fail to realize, what the present consequence is, to the person accused, even when the accusation is FALSE. One FALSE accusation from, ANY who chooses to harm you, can cost you your ENTIRE life's accomplishments, or accumulation; as you FIGHT to PROVE your innocence. The PATRIOT act, now eliminates YOUR ability to defend yourself from such an accusation; be that ACCUSATION one of TERRORISM. In addition, I personally have LOST the RIGHT to PRIVACY. I have lost the mental SECURITY, that MY home will not be entered without WARRANT, or Justifiable cause. I have LOST the PEACE of MIND, that I have freedom of speach, as the RETALIATION for practicing such, can too easily lead to FALSE accusation and indefinate incarceration, AND without legal representation. (ONE definition of FREEDOM: "LACK of cohersive FORCE") The whole issue, makes me question, "WHO is TERRORISING WHO"

quote: street, I really suggest you watch what you say. Just because someone is an admin doesn't mean they can punish you for not seeing there point I believe what I see, regardless of what I am told or who tells me!!...And, believe me, I am INDEED WATCHING what I say. Trying NOT to OFFEND. A little difficult, when all it takes is a different opinion or interpretation of what are true relative facts. quote:JAG WOULD NEVER ABUSE HIS ADMIN RIGHTS!That would be entirely dependent upon how far those rights extend, and to who makes judgement on such; I dont see I made any specific judgement call that any abuse of his Admin position was made, but only to the POLITICAL POSITION of the entire board.(I have been quite observant as to what is allowed and not allowed, and by who. I am not accustomed to being belittled or slammed, just for having a different opinion, when having conversation with intelligent people. I have found that ignorant people tend to have a need to belittle others, in order to feel superior) quote:The reason he is slamming people is because there blinded by all the lie's and deception's that are in the media now-a-days.I agree with the MEDIA deception being presented; however, I believe the deception swings in both directions. I ALSO have the DECENCY to only SLAM when being SLAMMED; HOWEVER, I get threatened to cease, or my post will be deleted. Maybe I too think people are blinded by Lies and misrepresentation..Maybe I should SLAM those who do not see it as I do. Hummm. so much for INTELLIGENT discussion..Huh? quote:Lemme give you my side If we didn't have the Patriot Act, we'd be dead.. plain and simple, I'm for this act. With it we are safe from attacks, (sorta) but we are safer now than pre-9/11Now rather, than call you a parinoid, or some such, I will only say:" I think your position appears to be a paranoid veiw. I feel you are blind to reality; therefore, I have the right to say something like this? "Maybe you need to take some of your prosaic."(or some such?)

quote: quote:Street says: " Heil Bush? ". eek: "Looking more like it every day!!" [/QB] Jaguar says that Street is full of paranoia STREET says: " I find it amazing, you are unable to discuss an issue, without slamming anyone who has an opinion other than yours. Sorry FELLA, no PARANOIA here!, just objective observations, based on issues present. NOW, knowing your an admin, I can objectively observe the POSITION of the board, can I not? "