Dunedan Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Alright, I have been trading via Genesis and Galcom for a few hours now, and I have roughly 30 million bucks. I have already upgraded the Engine to Numega, and the Armor to TitaniumV. I bought the "Special Cargo" at Galcom for Upgrading the Shields, and Reactor. However when I go to try and upgrade them, it seems like they are not there. So I figured that I might need the celestial orb. Went and bought that, but it dosn't seem like it makes a difference.Any help would be great... Also does anyone know that one website with all of the detailed info pertaining to BCM? I think Gallion, or Cmdr. Nova created it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolferz Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 I would bet that your shiny new artifacts are sitting in the cargo hold waiting for your RE to finish researching. Once that is accomplished, your SE's should be able to install the upgrades.note: Do not dock with a station during artifact installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 What Wolferz said Refer to BCM Appendix Data>Artifacts for details which is located in the BCM Install Directorydocsappendix folder.TTFN[ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: Gallion ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melanie650 Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Hi Adrian. May I ask you what items were you trading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedan Posted November 25, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Is there any approximate time on how long this will take?This if for all artifacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedan Posted November 25, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 I trade FC Charger Units, and Fighter Assets to Genisis from Galcom, then Comlink supplies from Genesis to Galcom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnson Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 It is highly possible that your ship class is unable to use the special Shield and Reactor upgrades. I know for a fact that Firestorms, Stormcarriers, and Aestroms can NOT use them. I think the rest of the carriers can though, and I dont think any cruisers or smaller can either. Buy something smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoZohar Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Have a question along the lines of the Special Upgrades... According to the fine appendix and what was said above, the RE has to have a certain AI to be able to install the upgrade artifacts, correct? However, I am able to start a new fully patched game, do one mining op to get about 6-8 mil galcreds, buy the Karanian reactor AND the Tachyon Anagram Shield, and I can install them immediatly. Is this normal(being able to install them immediatly, not getting enough money for them so quickly...)? Do I need to report this?Thanks. Great game, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Adrian Dune: Alright, I have been trading via Genesis and Galcom for a few hours now, and I have roughly 30 million bucks. 30 million?!?!Man, I can't wait for mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Also remember that artifacts that are system upgrades (e.g. shield, reactor) are not subject to RE analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnson Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Yeah, RE analysis only applies to the really good stuff like the RANDOM weapon, and the nav/insta jump stuff. Celestial ORB and the JAC work fine without a RE too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melanie650 Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Stormcarriers can't use the Shield and Reactor artifacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnson Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Nope, too big and they'd be too powerful then. Get a Megaron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgunzola Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 I've also been having problems upgrading my systems for my Firestorm, but with regular upgrades, not artifacts. After mining and selling minerals, I purchased the Numega engine upgrade, Tanis Spec, and Linear Spec IV. I launched and then immediatly installed both the engine and reactor upgrades from logistix with no problem. However, the upgrade light does not activate when I select the shield and it will not allow the upgrade. The same thing happened a bit later when I purchased Titanium V armor. The upgrade is in my cargo hold, but the light will not illuminate. I've tried waiting for over an hour with all officers on station. I've also tried docking and selling the upgrades, then repurchasing them somewhere else. Nothing will illuminate those lights. This is the second game in which I've encountered this problem. In my previous game, only the armor refused to install. I'm very confused and i believe that I have followed proper upgrade procedures. Please help.Athlon 1333 256MB PC2100 Geforce 3 64MB (23.11) Pioneer 16xDVD + Plexwriter 16/10/40A 2x60GB HDs with Promise Fasttrack Raid Controller SB Live digital Win XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antaren4279 Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 I think this is how you find the information:Open the 3000ad/bcm/data folder and open these two INI files: assets.ini and items.ini. The assets.ini file details what ships can take what upgrades by listing the upgrades as numbers. Look up the numbers on the items.ini file and you will find what upgrades a ship can have. If the upgrade is not listed on the ship in the assets.ini file, then that ship can't handle the upgrade.[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: antaren4279 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgunzola Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 I looked up the assets.ini and items.ini as instructed and cross referenced the upgrade item numbers. According to those files, the Firestorm can equip all non-artifact upgrades, including Linear Spec IV and Titanium V. Still, the game refuses to let me install them. Here's something else interesting. I tried restoring my very first saved game, which was created before I had purchased any upgrades period. I sold some spare parts and such to get cash for a shield upgrade. I bought a linear spec IV and guess what? The light illuminated and it allowed me to install the upgrade! However, upon restoring my current save file, the same situation is present again. Upgrades are on board, but no illuminated upgrade light. I think this situation is very peculiar. Also, no systems are damaged and the crew is healthy.Athlon 1333 256MB PC2100 Geforce 3 64MB (23.11) Pioneer 16xDVD + Plexwriter 16/10/40A 2x60GB HDs with Promise Fasttrack Raid Controller SB Live digital Win XP[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Gorgunzola ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrn Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Gorgunzola: I looked up the assets.ini and items.ini as instructed and cross referenced the upgrade item numbers. According to those files, the Firestorm can equip all non-artifact upgrades, including Linear Spec IV and Titanium V. Still, the game refuses to let me install them.Are you attempting to install them while docked or not?Because upgrades cannot be started while docked.[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Tyrn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgunzola Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 I've tried to install the upgrades in space and not while docked. I edited my previous post to explain how the upgrades worked with an old save file. Is it possible that something is wrong with my save files? Remember, this is the second individual game (character profile) that has given me this problem. Some upgrades will install, then other ones will not. I've tried everything that I know to do and followed all advice. I have not tinkered with any of my files or done anything that might otherwise corrupt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindglow Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Well, I got kinda antsy and decided to take out a INS city/base on Earth, come to find out all those pretty weapons I have on my ship and all my powerful fighters can't put a scratch on a ground target.. neither can my ground troops! Besides OTS weapons and ATS missles, what else can damage a ground unit? My ship loves to fires it's PTA system at those buildings but to no effect. Is this supposed to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antaren4279 Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Woops, dont know man. Just nuke em again.[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: antaren4279 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindglow Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Damn, you know, destroying a city can get expensive like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgunzola Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 I have found a strange solution to my upgrade problem. As I said, I was able to upgrade my Firestorm's engines and reactor to the best availble level, but the armor and shield upgrade lights would not illuminate. I have read and followed all advice to no avail. My solution was initially purley experimental. Since I was able to install the shield upgrade when i restored an old save file, I figured that maybe the variable that was causing my problem could be the already installed numega engine or tanis spec reactor. I repurchased the weakest engine and reactor and installed them both. This somehow caused the shield and armor upgrade lights to illuminate. I then upgraded my armor and shields to maximum levels, followed by again replacing my reactor and engine with their respective upgrades. No other problems have been encountered. Obviously, I am not in the position to say that this situation is the result of a bug, but there may be an issue here worth investigating. I have not seen anything in the manual or appendix relating to whether or not installing certain upgrades prevents other, unrelated upgrades from being installed.Athlon 1333 256MB PC2100 Geforce 3 64MB (23.11) Pioneer 16xDVD + Plexwriter 16/10/40A 2x60GB HDs with Promise Fasttrack Raid Controller SB Live digital Win XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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