Steffen Frey Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 After playing BCM for quite some time,first with a Firestorm ,then with a Violon (i like its shape ),it looks to me as if the beams of the Violons turrets are not as powerful as the Firestorms (i know that the Firestorm has 10 turrets and the Violon only has 8 ). But even with 3 beams hitting from my Violon the shields of a enemy fighter seem to drop not as fast as hitting with 1 beam of the Firestorm...could this be or am i assuming shit ? [ 03-19-2002, 12:38: Message edited by: Steffen Frey ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Surely you know that all ships use different beam ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffen Frey Posted March 19, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Wow fast answer No i didnt stumble across that...can someone point me to that? Thanks [ 03-19-2002, 14:59: Message edited by: Steffen Frey ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grayfox Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 and dont call him shirley lmao... sorry old airplane reference there check the appendix in your BCM docs directory [ 03-19-2002, 15:34: Message edited by: Grayfox ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffen Frey Posted March 19, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 OK maybe im blind or dumb ...but i only see stats for the main guns and quantity of the turrets...nothing about strenght of the turrets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 PTA firepower is not indicated in the Appendix. TTFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon 5 Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Steffen Frey: OK maybe im blind or dumb ...but i only see stats for the main guns and quantity of the turrets...nothing about strenght of the turrets...Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Gallion: PTA firepower is not indicated in the Appendix. TTFNSounds like we need to add a field called Turret Shot Rating after the Qty of Turrets field for capital ships and stations. Using info derived from the objclass.scr and objdefs.scr files (below) the per shot rating for example the Stormcarrier turrets could be derived as listed as follows : 150 units/500ms From the above, each time a turret beam paints a target, it inflicts 150 units of damage per 500 ms. Therefore, if 4 of its 6 turrets paint the same target for the same amount of time, the damage inflicted is 4x this amount (4x150=600). In instances where each turret has a different shot rating, an average value should be used. Note that even though the beams generally slice in one of several directional patterns, the recharge time determines when the beam is turned on/off within any target acquisition pass. quote: CLASS STORMCARRIER:STORMCARRIER.3D,carrier { ICON={6,14}; SHIP={4,SFIGHTER}; SHIP={4,CORSAIR}; SHIP={2,STARMONK}; SHIP={2,INTERDICTOR}; SHIP={2,SHUTTLE_MK2}; SHIP={2,SHUTTLE_MK3}; SHIP={40,MARINE_SFORCE_A}; TURRET=[sHOTl5p,SHOTl5p,SHOTl5p,SHOTl5p,SHOTl5p,SHOTl5p]; GUN=[sHOTl5r,SHOTl5r,SHOTl5r,SHOTl5r]; MISSILE={10,STS_VAGRANT}; MISSILE={10,STS_PERSEUS}; MISSILE={10,STS_QUESTOR}; MISSILE={10,STS_RALIX}; MINE={10,MINE_LEECH}; MINE={10,MINE_CRAB}; OTS={5,OTS_STALLION}; OTS={5,OTS_BUGNOR}; POD=[sHUTTLE_MK3]; } quote: STORMCARRIER.3D,STORMCARRIER,SARc, ?24,*2500,!28500,%500,A0.2500,L100,C560,H750,&1800000,j90000,J180000,P9,R8,Y10,[2500,]5000,^60000,35000,{1000,}250000,(_PRYATVGNEW) quote: SHOTs1p.3D,_SHOTs1p,,~500,E50,(Z) SHOTs2p.3D,_SHOTs2p,,~500,E75,(Z) SHOTs3p.3D,_SHOTs3p,,~500,E100,(Z) SHOTs4p.3D,_SHOTs4p,,~500,E125,(Z) SHOTs5p.3D,_SHOTs5p,,~500,E150,(Z) SHOTm1p.3D,_SHOTm1p,,~500,E50,(Z) SHOTm2p.3D,_SHOTm2p,,~500,E75,(Z) SHOTm3p.3D,_SHOTm3p,,~500,E100,(Z) SHOTm4p.3D,_SHOTm4p,,~500,E125,(Z) SHOTm5p.3D,_SHOTm5p,,~500,E150,(Z) SHOTl1p.3D,_SHOTl1p,,~500,E50,(Z) SHOTl2p.3D,_SHOTl2p,,~500,E75,(Z) SHOTl3p.3D,_SHOTl3p,,~500,E100,(Z) SHOTl4p.3D,_SHOTl4p,,~500,E125,(Z) SHOTl5p.3D,_SHOTl5p,,~500,E150,(Z) SHOTh1p.3D,_SHOTh1p,,~500,E25,(Z) SHOTh2p.3D,_SHOTh2p,,~500,E50,(Z) SHOTh3p.3D,_SHOTh3p,,~500,E75,(Z) SHOTh4p.3D,_SHOTh4p,,~500,E100,(Z) SHOTh5p.3D,_SHOTh5p,,~1000,E2500,(Z) SHOTods1p.3D,_SHOTodslp,,~1000,E1000,(Z) SHOTods2p.3D,_SHOTods2p,,~1000,E1500,(Z) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffen Frey Posted March 20, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Phew...so im after all not blind Btw could the strength of the Violons turrets be increased a little? im finding it quite hard to kill a enemy fighter with only the turrets...so practically they are quite useless for defence against them... [ 03-20-2002, 12:09: Message edited by: Steffen Frey ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Eversole Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Steffan, On every class ship there is a place where the PTA systems has an optimum damage output. This is the place that we call the "Sweet Spot". Because this spot is dependant on turret placement etc. It is different for each ship class. I would suggest you do some experimenting and try to find the sweet spot for the Violon or whatever ship you are currently commanding. Otherwise your PTA system is not going to be that effective no matter which ship you try..... although some of the sweet spots are easier to find than others. I haven't really flown the Violon that much, so I really couldn't tell you where the sweet spot is on that ship......sorry. [ 03-20-2002, 12:43: Message edited by: Stormshadow ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 Violon PTA strength is fine just as is. Improve your CC piloting skills some and you'll discover that the Violon is just as deadly - if not deadier - as the Aestrom against peashooters The BCMkII and the Violon have the same Sweet Spot. And no ... I shant divulge it Tinker around and experiment some. TTFN [ 03-20-2002, 17:57: Message edited by: Gallion ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 PTA firepower Data added to appendix. TTFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Gallion: PTA firepower Data added to appendix. TTFNThanks Gallion (I got the email already). Will add it to the next patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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