Bob Canteen Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 I was on the planets, actually right now im sitting on Zilon and im repairing my "Operations" modul. I hit the ground while trying to pilot around on full speed And somebody mentioned about "blue marble" Earth - its blue where should be Pacific but i can see clearly all of the continets on the planet.In FP like the prone feature, i cant remember if i was able to prone in BCMG. I tried too one of the Instant action missions, with plenty of space ships around on the ground. I didnt tried to get in any of them, while i was too busy to shoot and jump around hehe But really liked the trees and bushes. But one is for sure, no CTD's or any other problems so far. Very stable play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Well, it sounds like that card does have a shader. IIRC, that Prophet card is an OEM board (not made by nVidia), so they may have done some tweaks to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Just an FYI. As you know, the game requires a card with a vertex shader. It no longer requires a pixel shader as of the first patch because for cards without a pixel shader, some or all of the pixel shader effects are replaced with legacy TnL effects, some of which (e.g. shields) are from BCM Gold). The GF4 MX cards do NOT have a vertex shader, but nVidia was [cheating] and emulating this in their older drivers. They have since removed this capability in the newer drivers. So, if you have a GF4 MX card and want to get the game to work, go to the nVidia website and from the archived driver section, download this driver. quote:Windows XP/2000 Version: 28.84 File Size: 6.4 MBOf course, you use this at your own risk as we do not support it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchoo Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 I ran into this exact problem last month. I upgraded my video drivers only to find out that UC would no longer run. I've reverted back to the older drivers so I can continue playing. I figured nVidia had done something to their drivers, but wasn't sure, so thanks for verifying it and letting us poor saps with 440MX's know. That's why I enjoy coming to this forum. You can find answers to all your questions. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccca Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Hello everyone, Well this is the first game I have ever come across that makes this requirement. Trouble is, on the retail box the minimum requirement states a 32MB 3D card, nothing about vertex and pixel shaders. Wouldn't it have been better just to say on the box "GFORCE4 MX card NOT SUPPORTED". One question. Does the game support GFORCE4 MX after the latest patches are applied, version 2 etc.? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papi Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 If you only had really read what the system requirements are: Video: 32 MB DirectX 8.1 compliant video card with vertex shader 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 quote:Originally posted by maccca: One question. Does the game support GFORCE4 MX after the latest patches are applied, version 2 etc.? Thank you. No. A shader engine is not something the game adds, its something that your card either does or does not have. Besides, GF4 MX cards are very old generation cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccca Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Thank you for your prompt reply Derek Smart. Papi, on the retail box I have it does not state anywhere that I need quote:32 MB DirectX 8.1 compliant video card with vertex shader 1.1 It says "MINIMUM 1GHz-128RAM-CDROM4X-3D card 32MB" "RECOMMENED" 1,7GHz-256RAM-CDROM4X-64MB+Pixel shader" So, Papi before you start patronising me like that I suggest you get your facts right. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 quote:Originally posted by maccca: Thank you for your prompt reply Derek Smart. Papi, on the retail box I have it does not state anywhere that I need quote:32 MB DirectX 8.1 compliant video card with vertex shader 1.1 It says "MINIMUM 1GHz-128RAM-CDROM4X-3D card 32MB" "RECOMMENED" 1,7GHz-256RAM-CDROM4X-64MB+Pixel shader" So, Papi before you start patronising me like that I suggest you get your facts right. Thank you. You have the UK box which does not have the same wording as the US box which Papi quoted. Thats the fault of the publisher because their US and UK divisions are different. I for one, have NO clue why the UK division didn't just use the information we sent and which the US division used on the packaging. BUT the UK box (which I have right here in front of me) DOES say that a pixel shader is required. Its right there in the video card box and it says: 64MB + Pixel Shader A DX 8.1 compliant card (which the GF4MX card is not), implies vertex shader 1.1. And if a card has a pixel shader, then it also has a vertex shader; but the other way around is not true (i.e. a card with a vertex shader does not necessarily have a pixel shader). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 I'd go along with maccca on this one the UK Box gives the impression that you don't need a Pixel Shader (minimum specification) but having one is recommended not a requirement. Not all gamers know what the full DirectX 8.1 or 9.0b requirements means in terms of graphics card hardware and capabilities most like I used to, will think if the latest version of DX installs then it's compatible. box front box back Inlay card The fault lies with DreamCatcher not BC3000ad or SC. Dreamcatcher changed the wording and box layout for the UK edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papi Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 quote:Originally posted by maccca: Thank you for your prompt reply Derek Smart. Papi, on the retail box I have it does not state anywhere that I need quote:32 MB DirectX 8.1 compliant video card with vertex shader 1.1 It says "MINIMUM 1GHz-128RAM-CDROM4X-3D card 32MB" "RECOMMENED" 1,7GHz-256RAM-CDROM4X-64MB+Pixel shader" So, Papi before you start patronising me like that I suggest you get your facts right. Thank you. It seems we both had our facts right. Sorry if I offended you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remo Williams Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 No wonder its thought the pixel shader is not a requirement, but a recommendation. Chalk another one up for DreamCatcher for outstanding business practices sheeesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Pugwash: I'd go along with maccca on this one the UK Box gives the impression that you don't need a Pixel Shader (minimum specification) but having one is recommended not a requirement. Yep. Thats the same thing they did when they butchered the BCM Gold manual for the UK version; which is why I refused to send them a PDF manual for UC; so they had no choice but to include the full thing that is the same as the US version. quote:Not all gamers know what the full DirectX 8.1 or 9.0b requirements means in terms of graphics card hardware and capabilities most like I used to, will think if the latest version of DX installs then it's compatible.Yeah; let alone what a shader is. We've got so many questions like Where can I download the vertex shader for my card that is not even funny anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccca Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Once again thanks for the prompt replies. Papi, apology accepted, thanks. It seems then I'll have to take this back to the shop as I cannot justify upgrading at the moment, oh the joys of children. The only thing I do find unusual though, is how come on every new game I have bought, played and borrowed this year none of them have this problem, if this is now "THE STANDARD" as a few people have said on this thread. Also, before I sign off, I think I read a post by you Derek saying that if I, in effect, down graded to nvidia driver 45.32 the game would run! Is this correct! Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackeyjones Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Im running a Gforce 4mx440 with 40.72drivers although its not perfect it works resonably well. The game hangs sometimes and some parts of the drop down menus dissapear at times but its better than having the game just sitting here until I buy a new graphics card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackeyjones Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Just remember to uninstall the graphics card first then reinstall it with the 40.72 drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr GamKiller Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 would NIVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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