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Well i decided to go to seashore taking some holiday with two marines escorting me on planet earth, setting waypoints, taking the shuttle, transferring the team in the OC, going to the seashore with the OC, exiting the OC setting marines to escort mode and running to the water, swimming, and seeing the marines swimming but get stuck on the border of the seashore and not pursuing me.

I find that funny .

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If you found it funny, whats it doing in the tech support forum? Lemme move the thread so that you can go laugh about it over here...

Anyway, are you sure that they didn't drown? Personnel should not get stuck in water (they know how to swim). Did you try giving them the escort order using TOM and then running off?

Try swimming some more, so that if you have them in escort mode, they learn faster and then are able to mimic your actions. They may be thinking (processing their learn cycle) about how to best follow you, so they're probably not stuck, but instead are thinking ..ok, whose the first to follow this fool into water for no apparent reason?

If you are certain they are stuck when they shouldn't, please elaborate and I'll move it back to tech support if needed.

*moved*

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Guest Remo Williams

LOL! Sounds like real life to me. If my CO ran off into the ocean and just started swimming out to sea. I would stand there until he disappeared on the horizon before I turned and went home.

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I kind of had the same problem with troops but i also read if you treat them bad they wont take your orders...

Here is what happened to me...In some ways I think my problem is the latter but im not certain...

I landed 10 marines near an enemy city, I also noticed the enemy marines dont come outta there "bases" until your troops actually walk on the city square, I made them go to the enemy main base, then the fighting started, eventually 5 marines were killed and the rest ran away. Well they ran like 5 miles away. I landed a craft near them and told then to return to base (SC1) the craft they left from, they are Away team on SC 1. They just sat there. So i let a medic out and assigned him to there team. Then i say return to base and the medic did but none of the marines moved... I tried several things...(The marines were not injured much maybe 95 percent healthy) No luck, they just sat there, they did react to escort orders but they would never get back in the SC1 or the CC. If it was becausae i treated them badly , i wouldnt think they would take the escort order but they did. So i am starting to think its an error.

P.S. This game is the BEST game i have ever played, and I started with Sentinal Worlds on Commodore 64. The only problem is I wish i had a 3.5 MHZ system, but that has nothing to do with the game. Its not dereks fault if your a broke ass fool. In 5 years with the systems then, you will be able to load 5 copies of this game at the same time and have no lag... So its not an issue...The game is a 10.

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quote:


Originally posted by Lestat9:

I also noticed the enemy marines dont come outta there "bases" until your troops actually walk on the city square,


Thats not true.

I had a AI related thread on Gone Gold in which I explained how the mzone propagates threat information to units within the mzone.

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i wouldnt think they would take the escort order but they did. So i am starting to think its an error.

A shuttle five miles away is outside of their detection range. Had you targeted the shuttle and given them the order to escort the shuttle or similar, they may have responded. But if they can't find the shuttle, they won't do it.

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Im apologize for leaving some info out..

I am updated to the latest patch.

To clairify. My shuttle was right next to them when i gave the RTB command.

In fact i tried to land on top of them in case they didnt see me..

I tried to reproduce the situation but it seems my marines are all getting killed and not running away now...the 3 times i tried. That makes me wonder why they ran away at all . Are they supposed to run away if over powered or whatever?

I hate to waste your time Derek cause i know the more time you spend reading this petty issue your not spending time making the next release RC or whatever...

Do you think they ran away because they were "shocked" or beaten back?

Granted they are very low IQ like about 20 ish.That could be why they dont return, or they are scared or i treated them bad by sending them in. The one thing that has me curious is this.. I let a medic out and put him in their away team SC1 and then told them all to RTB and only the medic returned.The ship was right there landed next to them when i did this. I was in control of the SC1. Im not about to question you in anyway. Im just saying the fact the medic returned and the marines didnt might mean something...

Thanks for your time..and a great game.

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Make up your mind. Did they run away or not?

And did you actually check the marines orders to see if they are escorting someone else? There is a chain of command....screw it, no, I'm NOT going to type up all that crap again.

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"I'm NOT going to type up all that crap again."

No please dont go to any trouble.

I happen to have alot of time on my hands and I have a good save game of the stuck marines. So its not they dont listen to commands they are literally stuck.

You were right though(as if) its not the ocean that makes them stuck My guys are stuck on clearly solid ground.It seems they attack fine but maybe after they get some exp or kills they freeze,they keep moving but in place.

No matter what command i give them they look like they are doing the command but they dont move( as in distance. They do physically move .)

In this save game All i did was tell them to attack an enemy marine. They did and started fighting then the last 2 alive started to run away but before they got to far they just stayed in 1 place.So i have 2 of them stuck/running in place right near eachother on solid ground.

Im not trying to show you errors in your game as much as helping you to make this the best game ever. I was a direct x programmer myself until some tragic stuff happened..So really this is just

kewl to mess with.I really dig the AI!!

I hate to do this.

You mentioned Vehicles wont attack soldiers, do soldiers attack vehicles? Do soldiers attack buldings? Cause it doesnt seem like mine are..

That's another issue..grin

"Wise men have something to say, fools, have to say something."

Plato

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I need the saved game file. So go to the thread that shows how to pack up and send a saved game and send it to the email address specified and with a CLEAR explanation of what EXACTLY is going on in that saved game and WHAT you think is a problem.

If this is a wild goose chase, you'll pay.

*thread moved*

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"If this is a wild goose chase, you'll pay."

The problem seems very weird maybe intermitant even, which would be a nightmare.

On the other hand maybe you just forgot to rem out a line

Anyway you look at it, Them there marines are stuck...

Let me know my fate and i just saw RC5 is out,Ill install that and try to reproduce the error.

P.s. Do you ever eat or sleep? LOL

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quote:

Originally posted by Lestat9:

P.s. Do you ever eat or sleep? LOL

I have a feeling he eats but I was wondering on that latter one as well, just didn't have the guts to ask. Kinda brought myself to the conclusion that he was putting off sleep since he had more important things to do. I do the same when I've got the offer of an overtime shift immediately preceeding or after my regular shift.

-Gnowor

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