Guest Hellbinder[CE] Posted July 29, 2001 Report Share Posted July 29, 2001 well, I saw it on friday. It was pretty good. But I just dont see ANY way they can explain the ending. It Just does not work out at all. It cleaned house this weekend making 69.5 million in 3 days. The biggest July opening ever. Stomping JP3 22 million to rubble.AS soon as there are some replies. Id like to talk about the ending and see what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendiaz Posted July 29, 2001 Report Share Posted July 29, 2001 I thought it was absolute junk. It couldn't hold a candle to the original, and the love storie(s?) felt very tacked on and extraneous. The main character was not very likable, and his constant tough guy attitude didn't seem to fit. What made the original Planet of the Apes great was the suprise ending that it was actually Earth all along. In this film, the audience knows this going in, and so it takes a lot from the film. That, coupled with the fact the the technical elements of the film were not particalarly notable (not the special effects, other elements, like camera angles and cut sequences) and the confusing and bad ending, make this film sub-par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hellbinder[CE] Posted July 29, 2001 Report Share Posted July 29, 2001 Yes, I agree mostly.Problems.1. There is no way on Gods green earth, that we will have a space station like that in 2029. I think they made a HUGE mistake by not pushing the events out a little further. In the past we all looked at the AMAZING things we could accomplish in the year 2000, or 2010 or whatever. Now we live here and we can all see that Technology is not advancing that fast. Movies need to recognize that, it totally disrupts the suspension of reality.2. The ending. There is simply NO possible way to work this out. They Start in 2029, jump forward to 2543, and come back to 2150ish. How in the "HECK!" Is that supposed to affect events in the 1800's or earlier? If you take the line that my friend did and say the clocks in the ship were wrong, and he actually went back to the beginning of "evolution" or the distant past. Then how could Abraham lincon be Thade? He would have exsisted Gazillions of years before. Not to mention as smart as the Apes were, by 2150 or whatever, It would be stinking Star Trek or BCM.Im sure they will come up with some totally REDICULOUS and unplausable explanation. I just cant understand how the writers and director could actually allow an ending like that.The main character was totally uninspiring. The writers totally hozed it. They needed a Character who was brilliant, or action oriented, Or dynamic. That role should have went to someone like Heath Leadger (a knights tale, The Patriot). The only area of the film that they nailed were the Apes. Totally awesome make-up. The lead ape Thade was just great.Lastly. Whould any SANE red-blooded American Male go for the Ape chick over that TOTAL BABE??? I mean GIVE ME A BREAK!Thats just sick and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted July 29, 2001 Report Share Posted July 29, 2001 I saw itI hated itIt is a pile of crap, for ALL the aforementioned reasons...and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoZohar Posted July 29, 2001 Report Share Posted July 29, 2001 "It's not a remake!" -- Tim BurtonAs SC says, rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendiaz Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 All they were trying to do with the ending was suprise and shock the audience like the original did. Needless to say, it didn't work. Everyone knew that Lincoln would be an ape as soon as he landed in Washington, even if it made no sense. To reiterate, two things that made the original great: Charlton Heston, and a good, understandable, yet shocking ending. On another note, I just read Starship Troopers for the bazillionth time, awesome movie, worst butchery of a book by a film I've ever seen.[ 07-30-2001: Message edited by: brendiaz ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Schultz Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Not sure, but here's what I make of the ending:1) Didn't the Lincoln temple mention "General Thade" conquering Earth? Didn't read it to carefully, so my guess may be way off...2) Thade survived (ducked under a console while blaster bolts ricocheted around). So...I think that they are hoping to make a sequel, wherein someone busts Thade loose, and he gets his guys to go through the EM storm and conquer Earth, remaking it in his image or so. (Grasping at straws? I'm confused too here )One thumb up and one down.The movie was worth seeing though, because if I didn't I'd have never heard this comment with respect to the female ape (can't remember name) who helped the humans:(Hero just emerges from lake with ape-lady on back; camera shot of ape-lady):Friend: "Hey, she looks like Michael Jackson!" ROFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hellbinder[CE] Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 my question,Did they Go to 2543 AD or 2543 BC? The year is defenitly 2500 range. either way that leaves no room for the events that conclude the movie. eithera. The future would not effect the past he returns to. b. The distant past is to long before the year 2149 for anyone to even remember Thade.The only other possability is that the Earth he crashes at in the begining is a different dimention, and at the end he stays in that dimention and just hops into its future. In this case you have to accept the idea that the clocks on the ship were completely WRONG and have no bearing on the actual events.In any case. It sucks that the writers would even write such nonsensical rubbish.[ 07-30-2001: Message edited by: Hellbinder[CE] ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendiaz Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 My question, how would the clock know what year it is, huh? The ship's clock would simply keep time normally, it couldn't "sense" a jump forward in time. Even if the ending could be explained, doesn't make the movie any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain He-Man Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Another thing.. if the "planet of the apes" wasn't even earth (which i read somewhere), how did the real earth change, and why? I suppose we'll have to "eagerly" wait for the sequel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 uhm, just go rent all five of the previous movies, and you'll know what will be in any upcoming sequel to this rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain He-Man Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 hahaha.. i've already seen them all.. please don't make me do it again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 ROTFLMAO!!! http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Lucas Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Filthy says: "A wet load in the pants of cinema." ROFL I think I wet my own pants. this guy's reminiscent of Lowtax at Something Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain He-Man Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 here's the funniest (oddest? rudest?) movie review site.. sadly it doesn't get updated that often (but if you read some of the last few reviews, you'll understand why). http://www.dumbassandthefag.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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