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Some other discussions have lead me to start thinking of the political motivations that many groups have and it interest me to see how the Democrats always seem to be leaning towards some popular Liberal project and Rebublicans always seem to be on the side of Prudence, Morality and Conservatism.

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Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars.

Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats

And can't pass this one up....

Difference between Democrats and Republicans

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For Republicans, the big issues are (or ought to be) adherence to the US Constitution, individual liberty, and allowing Americans to realize their fullest personal potential in their own way, by keeping government out of their way as much as possible while still guaranteeing civil order and national security. For Democrats, the big issues are socialism, collectivism, buying votes from unions, and further expanding the reach of an already incredibly paternalistic federal government at home while reducing our sovereignty and self-determination in foreign affairs. Ultimately, for the Democrats it all comes down to two things: We Know WhatÔÇÖs Best For You, and Results DonÔÇÖt Matter, Intentions Do.

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Originally posted by Darkling:

LMFAO, I love this:

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For Democrats, it takes a village, but for Republicans, it takes a set of reasonably non-dysfunctional parents.

Well Jag, nice to see there are SOME things we agree on.


You will actually be amazed at what we agree upon, as long as we stay away from the E and the R word, we'll get along just fine...
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Follow the presidential debate going on now.

The second biggest difference is that Republicans are offering solutions (say what you will about them), while Democrats are just complaining about what Bush does. There was a time when Democrats offered solutions, but those times are long gone, and any solutions they do offer are retreads from the Golden Age. Democrats are mostly trying to keep their cobbled-together coalition of special interest groups intact by keeping issues alive for campaign fodder -- they don't want to solve anything because then they have nothing to complain about that keeps their special interests in line.

The first biggest difference is that I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.

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Steve you are so right.

I just love it.

Republicans are running on issues, national security, the economy, etc.

The Democrats: WE HATE BUSH!!!

That's it, that's all.

Makes me want to jump for joy, they are going to implode, oh I so hope that it happens....

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The "Anybody but Bush" mantra is going to get pretty tiresome to moderates as time wears on.

When the initial furvor dies down and people see throughout the year that the same stuff is being repeated ad nauseum while Bush brings about a straight talking focused message - unless something bad happens with Bush I feel that he's got it wrapped up.

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I'm not willing to place my bets just yet, there's a lot of crap that's going to happen over the next 9 months.

Personally I think Kerry is a weak candidate he's going to have to work hard to improve his image. The "ABB" rant is tiresome, but he does have a platform for those that want to hear it.

Bush has the incumbency working for him, the economy despite attempts to revive it, is still struggling but there's still time for it to spike. The War in Iraq is both an asset and a liability in it's current state.

If good things happen between now and then, I'd call it a lock, but at this point it's anything but.

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Originally posted by Grizzle:

... Kerry is a weak candidate he's going to have to work hard to improve his image. ....

I don't know why, but he reminds me of the movie "Night of the Living Dead"

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Originally posted by Grizzle:

... he does have a platform for those that want to hear it....

Yes I've heard his platform, something about Vietnam.

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Whoa!

Not a single reply to that one.

No John Stossel and ABC are right wing liberals.

No rebuttals whatsoever.

Well, hush my mouth and feed me peanutbutter!

Which is about all that I can afford to eat.

Thank you lawmakers.

Thank you big business.

Thank you America.

How do I get off this lousy planet?

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So let me get this straight: Republicans good guys

Democrats bad guys? Republicans standing for prudence (repression) and morality? There's a clear objective point of view! i wont make the same mistake, let the Repubs continue to demonize anyone different it seem to be what they do best.

The question is flawed as there are differences within both parties. For instance John McClain and Bush are different just as John Glenn and John Kerry are different. To me Democrats have always been more concerned with the least of us (somtimes to thier own detriment, homeless people dont vote)and Republicans interest hve always been skewed toward the priviliged. That is probably the reason tradtional minorities never seem to fit in the GOP's tent. The Republicans have never been able to sell themselves as compassionate because that is not one of thier core beleifs. They have always been more comfortable using the lower class as a club to scare the middle class.

Conversely Democrats have deemphasized traditional family values, and spirituality to appeal to a broader base. This like the feigned compassioante conservatism of the Republicans,is a fatal flaw. Personally I have always been a democrat but would like to think my mind is open enough to see and recognize the truth whether it comes from the left or the right.

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Race, I think you make good points.

What will be interesting to see with the traditional minorities is how the changing demographics of America change minority politics. For instance, the emerging African-American affluent class (look at cities like Atlanta) is starting to cause a rift in the traditional African-American politics of civil rights (Jesse Jackson vs. Jesse Lee Peterson). I don't think we'll see the lockstep voting of African-Americans continue past this decade. If Republicans continue to hold the White House and Senate, then the minorities might begin to drift towards the power center, further hastening the downfall of the Democrats as Democrats are mostly united special interests. If Democrats regain the White House, this may change. However, Democrats will have to refocus their message on the center instead of trying to convince everyone that their left-of-center positions are really mainstream and everyone else is right-wing extremists.

The Hispanic vote is wide-open. The focus has been on illegal immigration across the Mexican border, but what has not been emphasized is that Mexico is an 85% Catholic country. That means that traditional family values (as opposed to alternate lifestyles such as gay marriage) may swing Hispanics towards the GOP side. As an example, note how California had voted by over 2/3rds for Prop 22 (marriage between a man and a woman), had voted overwhelmingly against bilingual education, how opinion polls still show 2/3rds against gay marriage. Given how saturated California is with Hispanic emigre's (documented or otherwise), a large portion of those opinions must be coming from the Catholic Hispanic class.

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

To me Democrats have always been more concerned with the least of us (somtimes to thier own detriment, homeless people dont vote)and Republicans interest hve always been skewed toward the priviliged.

I'm Dominican and I admit that most of my friends and family are Democrats, but I'm a staunch Republican. Personally I think that Democrats take an additude with the American people that they know better than us what is good for us, which is why they want higher taxes from us, so they could spend the money "better" than we can. I remember friends of mine getting divorced so they could get better Welfare Benefits, how is that compassionate? I remember my brother having to sell one of his service trucks to pay his taxes on his Pool business, even though he employs 20 people, how is that compassionate. I remember during the Carter years how Opec "Announced" a cut in crude production (which never happened) that caused oil shortages only becuause Carter felt the government would do a "Better Job" of allocating Oil. As soon as Reagan came in, he eliminated this government distribution system, which caused a Massive Oil Glut and the subsequent collapse of oil & gas prices.

Democrats always think the Government can do it better.

Republicans always think the private sector can do it better.

Go renew your license and you be the judge.

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Honestly after looking over both of the major parties in more recent times, I've come to believe that the only major differences between Democrats and Republicans are that they disagree which of the people's rights they feel need to be removed first.

Democrats would remove our right to protect our home, would create a giant welfare state where we're paying out the ass for everyone else.

Democrats have a generalized sense of morality they feel should be legislated.

Republicans on the other hand while less socialistic, in recent times seem to believe in a gargantuan expansion of state power in other areas. Republicans would allow corporations to become even more out of control then they are now.

Republicans essentially seem to feel Christianity should be legislated.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are the better of the two, they're basically equal in terms of how much they want to take away. They just differ on the what.

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Very well put. I agree but am forced to choose the lesser of two evils. As to Stev's point regarding blacks and thier politics, anecdotally as a member of a middle class black family, I see very little inroads being made by the Republican party. My friends and associates who are in the same socio-economic class display a distrust of the GOP due to the strong influence of the right wing. I do think you make valid points regarding change, I just see it as changes in the Democrats that will (hopefully) lead the party to embracing the economic prudence of the GOP and and emphasizing tradtional family values and social justice.

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

As to Stev's point regarding blacks and thier politics, anecdotally as a member of a middle class black family, I see very little inroads being made by the Republican party. ... My friends and associates who are in the same socio-economic class display a distrust of the GOP due to the strong influence of the right wing.

I find this very interesting, considering that one of the key facets to the formation of the replubican Party was the Right Wing doctrine of freedom of all men regardless of race, color or creed. It was the Republicans who risked war with the South to free the slaves. It was the Replublicans that gave non-land owners in the U.S. the right to vote. It was the Republicans "Right Wing Agenda" that gave women the power to vote, and all along the Democrats were opposed, until of course it was popular, not to oppose. But Just remember this, Would Democrats EVER fight for the Black man, as the Republican's did? If it meant war?

Martin Luther King, Jr. was a card carrying member of the Republican Party and it was the Replublican Party that pushed throught most of the original Civil Rights legislation.

Only after the Democrats saw how much popular support there was for equal rights, did they come in and steal the Republican's thunder with the Affirmative Action bill. In essence reverse discrimination! Again, they don't do what is morally right, only what they beleive is popular. But, their plan worked and it worked beautifully, the Democrats were viewed as the heroic champion of the black man by stealing the Rebubliican's issues, just as Clinton tried to claim responsibility for Welfare reform.

But just keep this in mind. Did Blacks climb out of their socio-economic rut while under the Johnson era through the Carter era, or was it during the Reagan & Bush era that they had the most significant advances in prosperity. Distrust or not, you must admit that the Republican Party has done more for blacks than the Democratic Party ever has. Not because the Republican's favor blacks over any other group, but becuase of their insistance on fair treatment, one way or another.

While Democrates seek to divide & Conquer (White vs. Black; Rich vs. Poor;) The Republicans are only interested in doing what's best for the country, or at least more so than the Democrats.

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Do you really think MLK if alive today would be a Republican, The republican party of today is much different than the one that existed then. And please spare me the "we know whats better for you than you" crap. With all due respect you dont know what the hell your'e talking about. If anyone is being devisive in this country its the Republicans. Remember Willie Horton? I don't think GOP leadership is made up of racist but they do very little to distance themselves from people of that ilk.

Do you yourself still think the key facets you refer to still apply to todaysGOP? If so why are so many African Americans of the same mind regarding the GOP's motives?

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

Do you yourself still think the key facets you refer to still apply to todaysGOP? If so why are so many African Americans of the same mind regarding the GOP's motives?

Simple, because the Democrats have conditioned us to think that the Federal Government is the end all & Be all answer to our problems. Which is why, to Democrats, the way you "help" someone, is to take money out of my(taxpayers) pocket and give it to someone in the form of some government program, like Welfare or Job training. Either that or some sort of Job protection in the form of trade barriers or regulations. Republican's don't think this way, our idea of helping people is letting people keep more of their own money so they can start a business hire employees, reduce regulations to keep the job engine moving. It's a fundamentally different way of thinking. If you saw the level of regulations that I have to deal with, with my measley 6 employees, you would be astonished. I just want the government off my back so I can get back to work.

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

Do you really think MLK if alive today would be a Republican, The republican party of today is much different than the one that existed then. And please spare me the "we know whats better for you than you" crap. With all due respect you dont know what the hell your'e talking about.

Where the hell did I say that "We know what's better for you than you?"

Isn't that the Democrats line? I mean hell why do they want to tax us so much, because they feel that they know how to spend our money better than we do.

The only thing that I said is; "Trust or not, you must admit that Blacks have gained more economically under the Reagan, Bush Era than the Johnson through Carter Era". Numbers don't lie, during the Reagan Era ALONE, more Blacks entered the Middle class than all of the years from Johnson through Carter combined.

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Originally posted by $iLk:

C'mon guys let's
get out the vote!


Yep, the democrats have been very very good to those fellows but you forgot one more guy in that line up Osama Bin Laden since it was under the Democrats watch that he was able to plan the attack on the WTC among other little nasties they carried out or had planned and they didn't hunt him down like a republican did. In fact, these guys probably cried for weeks when Clinton lost to Bush.

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Originally posted by Darkling:

The only thing that I said is; "Trust or not, you must admit that Blacks have gained more economically under the Reagan, Bush Era than the Johnson through Carter Era". Numbers don't lie, during the Reagan Era ALONE, more Blacks entered the Middle class than all of the years from Johnson through Carter combined.

I wish more people realized this, but then again, the Democrats don't want this realized, they want the minorities to feel put upon, to feel that they are somehow owed. Class warfare works for the Democratic party, and works well.

If the Blacks actually did well, and the Democrats don't think they can, nor do they want them to, the democrats lose all of their campaign speech, class warfare rhetoric.

The Democrats care about power, not people. THe Blacks can just stay where they are, the Democrats don't want to accomplish anything, because they do not want to lose their rhetoric.

Name me one campaign in the last 50 years where Poverty, minority rights, health care etc has NOT been a Democrat issue, yet in all that time, they have accomplished NOTHING, zilch, nada.

It's all the Democrats have, and they don't want anything done, because then they will lose that campaign stumper.

Why do you think they are so PO'd about the Prescription drug benefit going through? It wasn't because they didn't do it, it's because now they can't use it as campaign issue. It has been taken away from them.

They do NOT want to accomplish anything, because it's ALL they have....

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

If anyone is being devisive in this country its the Republicans. Remember Willie Horton? I don't think GOP leadership is made up of racist but they do very little to distance themselves from people of that ilk.

I'm still trying to figure this one out?

*Willie Horton was a Conviced Killer that was allowed to go out on Governer Dukakis' "Furlough" Program. You don't think that the Republicans should have used that as an example of how he was soft on crime? Why? Was he black? If he was, WTF does that have to do with anything? Fact is he was a conviced KILLER that Dukakis let go out unsupervised, who subsequently raped a woman and stabbed her fiance? We shouldn't all be outraged by this? *The fact that in 1976 Governor Dukakis vetoed a bill to ban furloughs for first-degree murderers, should not have been pointed out, simply because Horton was black? I don't get it?

*The fact is that By March 1987, Dukakis had commuted the sentences of 28 first-degree murderers. This is NOT a black/white/Racist issue, it's a Crime & Punishment issue. The fact that Dukakis was being soft as a cuddly bear on crime was rightfully pointed out by the Republicans, since obviously, the Democrats were not going to say anything agaist their own guy.

Oh and one other thing, it was the Democrats who tried to paint it as a Racist issue, that you so eagerly bought.

*(The majority of this material was taken from the article "Getting Away with Murder," by Robert James Bidinotto, which appeared in Reader's Digest, July 1988.)

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