Guest aramike01 Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Blades' "get to know you" discussion has inspired this thread. Please direct any complaints to him. I was wondering where the BC3K population stands on politics. Are you a "righty" or a "lefty"? NRA or gun-control? EPA or cheaper friggin' gas!? Two dollars a gallon here, can you believe that!? I digress...Cast your vote for control of the next White House today. Tell your political interests to all present as I'm hoping a hearty debate develops. To be frank, as a republican I'm not too happy with my choice this election. It seems to me that the two major candidates bare a likeness to "Dumb and Dumber". But alas, I'm voting for Dumb, err, Bush. Don't worry if you're not in the US. Enlighten us capitalistic, democratic dogs to the ways of your world. Put your vote in for next Prime Minister or Queen of England (Blades, the queen must be a woman, I thought. You can't run!) Oh, and I know that some of you are already preparing to post "Dr. Derek Smart for President!" like mad in hopes of getting your hands on that beta. Feel free to start another thread for that as this one's serious. Alright, armchair politicians, start your engines!And one more thing: Dr. Derek Smart for President! Don't cry foul. I beat you to it. ------------------ Cmdr. Michael Kristophers Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, Spectre StarStation ICV-Intrepid Recruitment Officer "You won't get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole!" [This message has been edited by aramike01 (edited 06-14-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blades Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 So unfair. I get blamed for everything. Insurgents are such meanies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andergum Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 hmm.. Well I like Bush (who doesn't )I think people should be able to own a gun if they want... but, I am for some kind of gun training (safety, law awareness etc) heck its easier to get a gun than it is a drivers license.Oh and don't even talk about gas prices... we Illinoisans have the highest rates in the US (except Hawaii).Just why was it that we kicked Saddam's ass in Kuwait anyway??? hmmmm------------------ Cmdr. Andergum Spectre Fleet Pre. comm. Cmdr. New America StarStation ICV Gummy 1 Official tester of BC3K the series... Long live the Insurgency! ICQ # 215323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Taz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Bush.------------------ Cmdr. Antilles Spectre Fleet Spectre Starstation ICV- Eclipse Chief Security Officer Learning is not compulsory... Neither is survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramspite Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Ventura------------------ Cmdr Rampspite Spectre Fleet Commander, Sygan Station ICV Phantom motto "Isn't that what shields are for?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest r.fajuke Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Whats the difference between democrats and republicans anyway.Watching the west wing hasn't cleared that up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aramike01 Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Heh, interesting. Like Gum's response, though. Why in the hell would be outlaw guns if it's the criminals who use them illegally, anyway? Tell a criminal with a gun "that's illegal" and see what he says...I dare you. ------------------ Cmdr. Michael Kristophers Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, Spectre StarStation ICV-Intrepid Recruitment Officer "You won't get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoHashi Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Gotta vote for Bush!------------------ Cmdr ShoHashi Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, PreComm Crew, StarStation New Frontier ICV Aries ICQ 484321 [email protected] "Attack With Effectiveness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Thomas Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Hey, don't knock your fuel prices until you've seen them in the UK! And all to drive cars off the road in our polluted capital too, grr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Schacher Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Bush. Not for him as much as for his entourage. Give me Dick Cheney, James Baker and Colin Powell over the likes of Cohen, Allbright and Richardson.Republicans vs. Democrats: Not much difference these days. Democrats are for enabling programs for the poor. Republicans are for safety nets for the poor. In other words, the Democrats measure success as the number of people who go on welfare, and the Republicans measure success as the number of people who come off welfare.Democrats = liberal left. Republicans = conservative right.Republicans are for family values. Democrats are for defending the indefensible.Republicans are for freedom of religion. Democrats are for freedom from religion.There is no accountability in the Democratic Party. What will be the penalty this time for the loss of nuclear secrets? A letter of reprimand to actually be put in a permanent file this time? Ooohh!! I'm shaking with fear...There is no leadership/opposition in the Republican Party. Trent Lott is worthless. Orrin Hatch, Arlen Specter, who needs them?Don't get me started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuma Minako Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 O_o (Stares blankly) That's all I gotta say about politics.------------------ AKUMA MINAKO ORION FLEET GCV- TENCHI DETERRENCE BATTLE GROUP www.orion-hq.fsnet.co.uk "War is the plague of Mankind, created by Mankind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Haven't made me mind up yet. I am tormented with the choice between Mickey Mouse and Archie Bunker TTFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Socas Navarro Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 I hate politics and politicians, but I have my own ideas. Like nobody should be allowed to have guns. Education and health should be free for everyone (or at least, the government should provide the necessary support for those who can't afford it). I believe that killing people to show people that killing people is wrong is wrong (in case you didn't get it I'm against the death penalty). There should be more government control on the food that we eat. I'm against affirmative action as the solution to the racial/sexual discrimination (the problem is deeper than that, in my opinion, and its the roots of the problem that should be addressed). I believe people should be allowed to sunbath naked on the beach. I think the bread is too expensive and the coke too cheap. I don't give a damn about the price of the gas (or maybe I'd say the more expensive the better, for ecologic reasons).I guess that this kind of ideas make me more of a "lefty", correct? I don't feel like debating about it, but since you asked there you have it. As for the Bush/Gore discussion, I can't vote here in the U.S. so I won't even bother thinking about that but I'd say that you guys have a tough choice . If you want to know who I would vote in my country ... well, that seems to be another Dumb vs Dumber choice. Fortunately, it's not a 2-party system so I can always vote to one of the little guys who don't stand a single chance to win. Some will say that's wasting a vote but I can't honestly vote for any of the 3 big parties without having the feeling that I'm doing something wrong.------------------ See you out there, among the starsCmdr Nava, GCV Nemesis (Official BC3k tester) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aramike01 Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Steve, one many miss in your thinking:Republicans are more for freedom of state and constitutionalism.Democrats are more for control of freedom and ammendment of constitution.Republicans - more for defense of nation, leaving foreign policy as a means primarily to achieve that end.Democrats - Foreign policy changes dependant upon majority.Republicans - Domestic policy is dictated more by neccessity of the state.Democrats - One has to wonder if domestic policy is dictated by foreign policy, meaning, most domestic actions must maintain the "status-quo" of foreign allied powers.------------------ Cmdr. Michael Kristophers Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, Spectre StarStation ICV-Intrepid Recruitment Officer "You won't get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Heh, Interesting thread ya got going here. "Uncle Rattler's" point of view: -Rattler own's guns so that's a no brainer. -Bush, at least he knows the definition of sex! Would you trust a man to run a country if you couldn't trust him to chaperone your daughter? -He also opposes the death penalty. It's too easy! I say make prisons more like prisons should be. Overcrowding and early release? Take those words and definitions out of the dictionary! I say adopt the Japaneese method of prison control. Be good today, I feed you today! Steal something worth 1 cent American and it's a prison sentence. Makes one think about his actions BEFORE he does it!One last rant and I'll quit. ****DUI**** I say, if the individual kills someone, try him for Murder One if he's above the legal limit. If he's convicted just for simple DUI, Simply make him walk for the rest of his natural life. Establish a national registry so that he can't get a license again in any State. There won't be any repeat offenders that way unless he does it without a license. If he's found driving again, 10 years mandatory sentence! End of discussion.Now does this make me a left or right winger? ------------------ Rattler, Insurgent One Commander-In-Chief, InsurgencyOfficial Tester Battlecruiser Series [email protected] ICQ 12894104"Arise, Old Insurgents, Long dead but eternal in time and space. Forgive us NOT for what we do, We merely take your place!" - Rattler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallion Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Nope Sounds Mainstreet to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Schacher Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 quote:Democrats - Foreign policy changes dependant upon majority.Actually, this should read: Democrats - Foreign policy changes dependant upon monetary contributions. quote:Now does this make me a left or right winger? Righty. Definitely a righty.An interesting analysis (after this thread is done) will be to correlate everybody's views on gun control and foreign policy with their behaviors on this board and in the game. How many real-life gun-control advocates will be hollering for more powerful weapons and faster ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Wallin Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 I love it when people vote for banning firearms. Hehe, it's happened to a great extent in the UK, Australia and Canada.Guess what: didn't lower crime rates! In fact, violent crimes involving unarmed citizens and armed criminals is on the steep increase in countries with no-gun laws.I guess the criminals didn't think the law applied to them and went and bought the guns anyway.Oh well, when the citizens can't own weapons of defense, the criminals have nothing to fear.So, all you out there against private ownership of weapons, be sure and vote to increase your police force by 1000%. It'll take that much to protect you from those who would just as soon wipe their bum with the anti-gun laws.As for me, govt. is only good for a few things: errr.. I really can't think of any right now However, should we all vote away everything, I want to request a position as a historian for Big Brother. I'd rewrite history and the release of BattleCruiser 1.0 would become the most perfect release ever; earning it's develepor 1.2 Billion in profits; spawning new life changing software that ushers humanity into a utopia centered around playing currently released versions of BC; all the while unknowingly piloting unmaned space-vehicles linked to the trillions of copies of BC being played on Interenet2 and Internet to Mars. (Was that one long run on sentence or what!)The views expressed in this rambling do not necessarily represent the views of 3000ad, it's employees or it's founder Derek Smart ------------------ Flt. Cmdr. Akira Spectre ICV-Nevermore Official Tester Battlecruiser Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Schacher Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Ron,Call it "Battlecruiser 1984 A.D." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Blair Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Aaye all. I am not Rep OR Dem so now you know me. But personly, Rep leader Bush is MY vote (if I could)LOL . I keep up with how this world works and I guess now in this day in age (and somehow it works) the BIg ole D!I'm not going to bore you again beacuse what I have to say would take too long and boring .Well that's what the ole chris has to say so keep togather all .See ya all on the other side !------------------ Cmdr. Chris Alan Blair Spectre Fleet Spectre Starstation ICV-Ticonderoga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aramike01 Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Interesting... it seems as though most members of this board are Republicans. Reassuring, indeed. Hell, if we let the democrats take office, they'll use the constitution so long as it benefits them, and change it when it doesn't!------------------ Cmdr. Michael Kristophers Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, Spectre StarStation ICV-Intrepid Recruitment Officer "You won't get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Democrats, Republicans, Democrats,Republicans.... Sigh. It's a shame that only the richest and most meida-friendly canidates from the Big Three (Demos, Repubs, and Indipens) get reconized. What about the perfeclty good folks running who you never even hear of? Well, you're about to hear of one of them. I haven't the faintest idea what "wing" I'm sitting on...but I am sure of what I want in a president.A fellow who thinks the way I do. That's the democratic process, right? Voting for the guy who represents your opinion? And instead of telling you folks my opinions, I'll tell you who I'd vote for. David Ernest McReynolds. What, never heard of him? I'll give you a hint on the sort of politician he is. You can find his name on the Socialist ballot. Now I'm not pushing socialism here, I'm just encourging anyone who doesn't like any of the Big runners to check out this site: http://www.vote-smart.org/ , which gives all the runners equal space to represent themselves. You'd be downright shocked to look at the HUGE list they have of people hankerin' to lead America. Opp, sorry, off topic. Well, I'm a voting Socialist, that's my input in this little poll. [This message has been edited by Whisper (edited 06-15-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest r.fajuke Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Crimes involving armed criminals may be on the increase in the UK but the levels were very low in the first place. Surely if fireamrs were leagally availible to every small time criminal those figures would go through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aramike01 Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 Here's my take on gun control: Do criminals who would murder someone actually care about law enough to have it stop them from arming themselves? I mean, it is illegal to discharge a firearm at someone. Do you truly think that a monster of that kind of integrity would care?Now, if everyone owned a gun would these same criminals be so fast to invade one's home risking their lives for some precious jewels?Personally, I'd never vote outside of the two primary political parties. Never would I even vote Reform Party in this day and age. The reason is simple: Unless these parties have a good representation in the senate and congress, nothing would actually get done due to partisan politics and political in-fighting. If by some miracle an independant or a Reformer were to get sworn in, I think my point would be clearer than day. Hell, they can hardly get anything done as it is.Democracy is not what it used to be, so I play by the new rules. The intentions of a democratic society is to vote for whom would represent you the best. However, in today's world, one should consider voting for the canidate that not only would represent their views the best, but would actually be able to beat the system and help bring one's views to day light. In other words, I'd love to be able to have my options much more elaborate than what they currently are, but in today's political environment, voting for anything other than the primary parties would be making your vote a martyr for the cause.Side note-------- Even with all that said, I would never, ever vote for a representative of socialism. ------------------ Cmdr. Michael Kristophers Spectre Fleet Commanding Officer, Spectre StarStation ICV-Intrepid Recruitment Officer "You won't get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole!"[This message has been edited by aramike01 (edited 06-15-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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