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You wish... (El chi, Fox)

But that letter is ligit and written by that person in question.

How do I know this?

Around the time that the letter was written there was a story about such a thing on the new's, it was a small story and hardly deserving of any attention (well.. to liberals that is)

Rumor has it, that the same guy who wrote that letter was the same guy who got insulted by Kerry all becuase he told Kerry this when he was at the Veterain Memorial

"You don't belong here Sir, this place is for Vietnam Veterans.. not traitors", but that's only a rumor. A rumor which you won't hear about on the Nationalistic Beurocratic Communist, Anarchy Bachoced Communists, Communist Bull Socialist's or, last but not least, the WORSE of the liberal new's agencie's, The Communist New's Network. Shall I continue? I've got plenty of name's for these Liberal new's agencie's that PERFECTLY reflect what they are, I think I got the difintions for NBC, CBS, and ABC correct.. hmm will have to check my document

(by the way, it seem's my saying are catching on.. A LOT of people here are using them to describe the new's agencie's in question)

The only new's agencie to report that rumor was Fox New's And I'm glad cause they had the footage to show Kerry flipping off a Vietnam Veterain

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Ok, First off. Kalshion, check THIS whenever you state some group of people are communists.

Now I don't think those group's your renaming as communists are in fact communists. Please learn straight facts. I know it's hard with so much BS floating around these days.

Now let me ask you, does a classless society not appeal to you? The Soviet Union wasn't Comunism it was a dictatorship. One man (Stalin) above all that sounds like a dictatorship.

Back to the topic.

Frankly I don't want either Kerry or Bush, I'd rather have Regan or Dwight Eisenhower. I mean the serious lack of trust is really bothering me. I admit I don't know much about Kerry, but I do know that I don't want Bush for another 4 years. OMG just thinking of that.

My main gripe with Bush is he wasn't upfront with us about why we should attack Irag (sp?), another trust issue which shouldn't be there when your talking about the PRESIDENT, you know the guy with his finger on the red button!

After 9/11 he told people to shop and continue as they were. Whereas after Pearl Harbor, people were lining up to fight (even kids underage!) and the people devoted items like tires, food, and any household items for the troops to use or to be used to create weapons or vehicles for the troops. The amount of support for the troops was great because the president used that to rally the people, instead Bush kept people afraid of more attacks and had people confused as to whether he said that Saddam was involved or not in 9/11.

Sorry for the rambling and I hope there are no hard feelings cause we all want the best for the people.

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Bush NEVER said that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911.

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!

I don't care what people might say, he never said that Iraq had ANY connections to 911, although, I myself do. I believe that not only did Saddam help finance the operation, via Praque and Zarcowi, I believe that he also gave training support. Intelligence of a number of different countries attest to this.

BUT, Bush NEVER said that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911.

He has been very straightforward about why we went into Iraq, it is just too bad that we were too late to do anything about the WMD's before they were moved OUT of Iraq. If we had gone in SOONER, instead of farting around with the idiots at the UN, we could have intercepted them.

But Bush had to try the UN first, that is the only thing that makes me angry at Bush, is he let the UN slow us down, and therefore the WMD's got away from us.

We should have gone in as soon as he said we would, and killed Saddam and others and gotten those WMD's before they were able to move them OUT of the country.

Other then that, Iraq has been an incredible success. We took out Saddam, freed 25 million people with the losss of less then 700 military personnel, and are giving them their country back in less then 2 weeks.

That is phenomenal!! I think we should wait to turn it over until we have it a bit more under control and have more domestic security, but Bush promised June 30th, and he is keeping that promise.

Bush means what he says, and says what he means.

He has given me NO reason to distrust him at all.

He has shown himself a VERY capable leader, his policies have made us safer, NOT 1 terrorist attack within the US since 911, Al Quaeda is disorganized and broke, and MOST of their top leaders are either dead or in custody, the 2 top terrorist supoporting regimes are gone, Afghanistan's Taliban, and Saddam of Iraq, and the economy is coming back with a vengeance.

I'd say he's doing a pretty damn good job....

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Originally posted by Kalshion:

He is NOT a veteran.. he is a TRAITOR who cowardly left the Vietnam war to protest against it.

He is NOT deserving of ANY respect, I refuse to respect someone who insult's our soldiers, INSULTS our president who is doing a DAMN good job, and insults our troop's who fought and DIED for this country!

YOU Grizzle just can't stand hearing the truth coming from a veteran who know's exactly what he's talking about.

umm way off Kalshion way off indeed. Bush because he was from a richer family got to stay back in the US in the National Guard where he would never see combat. Kerry however though from a rich family as well could have done the same but he DIDN't. He was against Vietnam and could have stayed back the US but he went anyway. Kerry volenteered for the most dangerous duty got shot FOUR FREAKING TIMES. I don't blame the man for leaving the army after that expirence and your telling me Kerry is a traior? BS and BS somemore. Bush wasn't even in Vietnam he got to stay behind in the US as a member of the National Guard therfore he never saw combat. That said I would reconsider what have you said Kalshion and I advise you to think twice before calling Kerry a tratior.

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Kerry is a traitor, there is enough proof about that Diaz, so what you're saying is more BS than what I have said

I will not repeat what Jaguar has said, or what I have said. There for-

Check you're history, do you're own research, before you decide to comment on something you clearly have no idea about.

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Originally posted by Jaguar:

Bush NEVER said that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911.

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!

I don't care what people might say, he never said that Iraq had ANY connections to 911, although, I myself do. I believe that not only did Saddam help finance the operation, via Praque and Zarcowi, I believe that he also gave training support. Intelligence of a number of different countries attest to this.

BUT, Bush NEVER said that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911.


Jaguar is right. It wasn't bush. It was the other genius in the white house, Dick Cheney.

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Originally posted by El Che:

Jaguar is right. It wasn't bush. It was the other genius in the white house, Dick Cheney.

Cheney NEVER said it either, NO one in the Bush administration has EVER said that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911.

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Originally posted by El Che:

Cheney said it on television. I SAW him say it over and over. It's in Farrenheit 911 by the way. But you already knew that because you know ALL about the movie and EVERYTHING that is in it

El Che's never heard of the term "Super-em-posed"

You want to know what that means? It mean's where someone take's a picture of another person and then take's a second picture and place's it right over the other, MATCHING everything to make it look like it was one big picture taken at the same time.

Chaney never said the sort. I know that cause I've listened and watched the news. The only place that has spouted that lie is the Communist New's Network, Anarchist Burocratic Communist's, Communist Bosac Socialists. There's one other but what they're called would cause my post to be edited (Jaguar would laugh, but he would have to edit the post due to the language)

Media Bias, first hand, trust me El Chi I know I WORK in that industry and have witnessed first hand how the media like's to 'CREATE' stuff. Back in school our teacher tried to MAKE US create a clip with Bush insulting the US, and trust me IT WAS POSSIBLE with the technology we had

But you know what? A lot of us said no and guess what happened? We ended up failing the class and lossing our certificates, but the lot of us didn't care because we didn't want lie's to be spouted

That being said, it's clear if you where to watch it that what Chaney say's doesn't match his lip movement. It's off by about a 5 seconds, and yes I've done the test by using the equipment at school

So sorry El Chi, but I just proved you wrong... big time..

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Super.. whatchamacallit? Superimposed? Hmmm... English a second language for you Kalshion? And here you are calling other people idiots. You've used the equipment at school but didn't know the proper spelling for what it is you were doing? I don't know what you proved beyond the fact that you might be... a liar. I guess I'll forgive you, you're just a child really. Old enough to hold a gun just not quite sharp enough to care why. Given your defense of the indefensible it would be fitting that you be the first to be drafted in Bush's second term. If he should see a second term of office you might indeed find yourself in Syria or Iran. Wouldn't that be great for you?

Anyway what we were talking about before the BS started flying was whether or not this administration has INTENTIONALLY made a connection between Saddam and 9/11. I offer the following article for your perusal. It is like my calling Kashion a liar... I didn't have to say it, although I did. I could have left it at, he couldn't spell what he supposedly experimented with but somehow he expects us to consider him learned on the topic. Bush says terrorist and then follows up with the words IRAQ and SADDAM and what is left is a DELIBERATE impression that Iraq was part of 9/11.

You people can play dumb all you want but you KNOW, yet IGNORE, the fact that truth is often lost in PERCEPTION. So while you sit here drinking the Koolaid, I hope you don't expect the rest of us to buy the BS Bush has been selling. They made the connections between Saddam and Al-Qaeda... it was ONE ENEMY and you guys that say, "No." are just in denial. Sorry to be a "super imposition" *snickers* on your flawed arguments.

The politics of Perception where it concerns Iraq and 9/11

[ 08-03-2004, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Takvah ]

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Takvah

Not everyone is perfect, even I tend to make errors that I don't notice. Although I did notice it before I saw you're outragious reply, and just for future refrence, I spell that word with an E not an I that's how I am that's how I spell things, you can't fault someone on that

Me? A Liar? Prove me wrong before you start throwing around such BS... oh wait? You can't cause you don't have access to the same equipment.. then in that case you have no right calling ANYONE ANYTHING unless you can PROVE them wrong. Do the same type of experiment as I did and tell me what you get... if you're not afriad of what you'll find...

As for Bush's BS you're the one spouting the propaganda, you fail to see the truth behind his words, you fail to see what will happen if Kerry is elected but that's because you're to ignorant to search for the truth's yourself.

I'll ignore you're other comments since they hold no grounds in this thread

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I have all the facts at my fingertips. People like you just refuse to see the forest for the trees. If you want to debate me fact for fact BRING IT ON.

As for you... you might also like to look into the use of the words "your" and "you're"... while figuring out whether superimposed or super-em-posed is correct. If you can't be bothered to learn the language how can I expect you to properly process the media and the spin where it concerns this President?

My replies are outrageous? I don't believe you ran ANYTHING through a machine and if you did I'M BEGGING YOU, MAKE YOUR FINDINGS AVAILABLE TO THE WORLD. Start here... convert the evidence to an internet format AND SHOW US! I dare you. If you can't be bothered to prove this then I find your argument to be baseless and FALSE. Outrageous... yes I find the fact that a child is so blind that he had to come here and LIE rather than accept the facts... OUTRAGEOUS. You are saying that someone DOCTORED A TAPE and I am telling you HERE AND NOW, to back it up. We aren't going to just allow you to spew your fascist garbage without being called on it.

Thanks

[ 08-03-2004, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: Takvah ]

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Originally posted by Takvah:

I have all the facts at my fingertips. People like you just refuse to see the forest for the trees. If you want to debate me fact for fact BRING IT ON.

As for you... you might also like to look into the use of the words "your" and "you're"... while figuring out whether superimposed or super-em-posed is correct. If you can't be bothered to learn the language how can I expect you to properly process the media and the spin where it concerns this President?

My replies are outrageous? I don't believe you ran ANYTHING through a machine and if you did I'M BEGGING YOU, MAKE YOUR FINDINGS AVAILABLE TO THE WORLD. Start here... convert the evidence to an internet format AND SHOW US! I dare you. If you can't be bothered to prove this then I find your argument to be baseless and FALSE. Outrageous... yes I find the fact that a child is so blind that he had to come here and LIE rather than accept the facts... OUTRAGEOUS. You are saying that someone DOCTORED A TAPE and I am telling you HERE AND NOW, to back it up. We aren't going to just allow you to spew your fascist garbage without being called on it.

Thanks

Quit with the grammar putdowns, I am getting tired of them.

You understand what he means, so quit with the stupid attacks.

And this fascist crap had better stop as well, because you OBVIOUSLY have NO idea what a Fascist is, or you would not call him one.

Quit it.........

And your replies ARE outrageous, it is some of the MOST ridiculous and insane propaganda that I have seen.

You want to go fact for fact?

Let's go.

So, tell me Takvah, give me the reasons that you hate Bush, give them to me, point by point, back them up with examples and let's go over them.

Let's see whether your Hate Bush Rhetoric has some actual depth, or whether it's just emotional garbage that you just can't help spouting....

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Quit with the grammar putdowns, I am getting tired of them.

Why? You don't think grammar and spelling are important?

[ 08-03-2004, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: Cc ]

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Originally posted by Cc:

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Quit with the grammar putdowns, I am getting tired of them.

Why? You don't think grammar and spelling are important?


Yeah, grammar and speeling are important in legal documents, etc, but on a forum, where we can easily understand what he is talking about, ATTACKING him for it is not acceptable.

You want to discuss it with him, that's one thing, but to use it to attack his intelligence or credibility, is unacceptable.

I know 2 VERY intelligent people that can't spell worth a darn, and the way they abuse the English language gives me chills, but they get their points across. But the fact is that they are BOTH physicists, and are BOTH very intelligent, and really couldn't care less about how a word is spelled.

So quit with the attacks, I am tiring of them VERY quickly......

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Originally posted by Cc:

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You understand what he means, so quit with the stupid attacks.

I'm not sure anyone knows what he means.


I know EXACTLY what he means, EVERY time, no matter how he spells it.

What's your excuse for NOT understanding?

Again, I tire of this grading of posts via spelling, if I edited EVERY post in this forum for grammatical errors and spelling, I'd be here for the rest of my life.

We are ALL guilty, so quit throwing rocks when you live in a glass house.

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But the fact is that they are BOTH physicists, and are BOTH very intelligent, and really couldn't care less about how a word is spelled.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

Physicists learn early on in their careers on how to properly communicate.

I also have dealt with a few physicists in the medical industry,and they could out spell /out grammar me under the carpet.

That's why I have a dictionary right next to the computer.

[ 08-04-2004, 04:49 AM: Message edited by: Cc ]

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What's your excuse for NOT understanding?

Maybe my excuse is in how the information is presented.

If someone apparently does not know the difference between 'there', 'their', or 'they're', how can I believe what they say is credible?

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Originally posted by Cc:

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What's your excuse for NOT understanding?

Maybe my excuse is in how the information is presented.

If someone apparently does not know the difference between 'there', 'their', or 'they're', how can I believe what they say is credible?


There - generally used when pointing to a place.

e.g. Put the groceries THERE.

Their - shows posession.

e.g. They are going to THEIR cabin for the weekend.

They're - short for 'they are'.

e.g. They're going boating this afternoon.

Now that I've proven that I can use they're, there, and their properly, does that make everything I say, including the following sentence, true?

"Earth is flat and if we sail too far we'll fall off the edge."

No? Then quit with the grammer = credibility nonsense.

(p.s. Notice how in the sentence above I used TOO instead of TO or TWO and WE'LL instead of WELL or WILL. I guess that's all the more reason to believe every word I say, right?)

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Originally posted by Cc:

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But the fact is that they are BOTH physicists, and are BOTH very intelligent, and really couldn't care less about how a word is spelled.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

Physicists learn early on in their careers on how to properly communicate.

I also have dealt with a few physicists in the medical industry,and they could out spell /out grammar me under the carpet.

That's why I have a dictionary right next to the computer.


Are you calling me a liar there CC?

Watch it, or you may not be able to do that again.

I tire of your nonsense, you have thrown this thread totally off subject, if you wish to discuss what this thread is about, go ahead, otherwise, DON'T post in it.

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I think you spew a lot of propaganda... does that make you a liar? Well I guess that's up for debate now isn't it? As for physicists that can't spell, was the point you made even relevant? We stated that we thought that the fact that Kalshion couldn't even spell WHAT HE WAS DOING, affected our belief where it concerned his claims that the tape was doctored. Now if your physicist friends can't spell NEUTRON, or ELECTRON I would have a very REAL problem accepting that they were working with atoms or were for that matter physicists.

Nice threat though Jaguar, very subtle. It says a lot about you, most of which I already knew.

Peace

Oh and as for debating Bush with you, the next time you feel like spewing about the candidates I'll respond. You know that's how it is with us babe... you puke and then I clean it up.

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Originally posted by Takvah:

I think you spew a lot of propaganda... does that make you a liar? Well I guess that's up for debate now isn't it? As for physicists that can't spell, was the point you made even relevant? We stated that we thought that the fact that Kalshion couldn't even spell WHAT HE WAS DOING, affected our belief where it concerned his claims that the tape was doctored. Now if your physicist friends can't spell NEUTRON, or ELECTRON I would have a very REAL problem accepting that they were working with atoms or were for that matter physicists.

Nice threat though Jaguar, very subtle. It says a lot about you, most of which I already knew.

Peace

Oh and as for debating Bush with you, the next time you feel like spewing about the candidates I'll respond. You know that's how it is with us babe... you puke and then I clean it up.

Actually it's you who puke emotional nonsense, then I have to clean it up with REAL facts there Takvah.

Everything you have spouted about Bush has either been propaganda from the media, or some BS from the Democratic playbook.

Your Hate Bush rhetoric is really old and stale, because it is ALL based on LIES, and Nonsense.

Also, I never said that they couldn't spell, or couldn't speak proper english, it is the fact that they don't care. That's the difference between scientists and normal people, they are superintelligent, and really don't care what people think of thier spelling, or grammatical english. They have better things to do.

You don't like what I said, then try and keep on subject then, and quit with the grammatical and spelling critiques and attacks.

I am tiring of them rather quickly.

And you don't know jack about me, except for the fact that I ACTUALLY look for facts, before spouting stuff. Whereas you go and watch faranheit 911, and think it's gospel, without taking the time to actually look into the lies and nonsense that are in the film.

Most of the Hate Bush rhetoric is TOTAL nonsense, and made up GARBAGE, and you spout it like it's the truth.

I find it fascinating, and sad......

I also find the fact that you guys are attacking the spelling and grammar of someone that disagrees with you, instead of attacking him, why don't you debate him on the facts of his posts, but then again, you have nothing to debate him with, and therefore attack him instead.

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*Sighs*

Jaguar, I did debate the guy on his "facts" calling him quite bluntly a LIAR. I don't know how much more blatant I could have been. He was the one that provided NO FACTS. All he said was that he ran tests and that there was an image superimposed over something or other. The whole thing was rather contrived and ended with an absolute statement saying something along the lines of, "I proved you wrong big time". Excuse me? He proved what exactly? I saw no proof... unless the debate was on the use of your and you're in which case he offered resounding proof that he didn't know when to use either. He also spelled the word superimposed incorrectly (the thing he supposedly studied and tested).

Funny I listened to Rush today and he attacked a guy for saying the word defecit with an accent that made it sound like "daficit". I bet you would have just yucked and yucked at that.

I know who you are Jaguar because I used to be you. I was you less than two years ago, cheering as the bombs fell and wishing that shock and awe was REALLY shock and awe and not shock and bore. Then I saw that our soldiers were hungry, unclean and sweltering in Iraq. I came to see that the Iraq war was being privatized and I'm sorry but I have yet to see a corporation win a war. I started looking at the decision processes of this administration, the lies that were piling up and I did what a thinking person does, I changed my mind. Now you conveniently seem to have determined that you know me, calling me a LIBERAL. You don't know me. However with the way you have to toss around that word "liberal" and demonize it, I know what faction of my party you inhabit... the jack boot, fascist, THUG branch. Hell Congress had to enact legislation to keep Prescott Bush from assisting the Nazis for a buck so why would I not believe his grandson would war profiteer? It is BRAZEN, it is UNREPENTANT and somehow you just overlook it all. Hit the snooze button and go back to sleep. Oh and GET ONE THING PERFECTLY CLEAR HERE AND NOW... because I am TIRING *snickers* OF YOUR PATHETIC SNIPING. I am not saying the Democrats are BETTER I am saying that this country needs checks and balances again and Bush who has abused his power and feels no burden of accountability to US (the people) NEEDS TO GO. I'm not the only Republican that feels this way, I know many that share my same position. So do me a favor and stop trying to paint me as a liberal because I believe Bush needs to go. If I am anything beyond Republican it would be Libertarian. I hope that clears it up for you.

Oh and please, spare me your threats.

Cheers

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