And Kerry is better or different than Bush how?

[LostInSpace]

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1:As are MOST congressman, senators and representatives. Means VERY little, as to which party they represent, and definately does NOT degrade the legitamacy of either opponant. BESIDES, his area of expertise, was in DEFENSE, Does'nt say alot, but it does say SOMETHING.

2: I once ended up HANDCUFFED, and placed in the back of a squad car, for giving a vagrant a cigarette.

Seems, I broke the law, when I stopped to get the pack of cigarettes out of my shirt pocket.(1992) In the city of MOBILE ALABAMA, it is ILLEGAL, to stop walking, from your car, to the business you are intending to patronize.

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1: I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it

2: That is a state issue not a federal one.

Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state?

Alabama Democrats Lose Power Grab

Birmingham, AL - Today Alabama Republican Party Chairman Marty Connors applauded the Republicans of the State House of Representatives for killing a bill which would have abolished the State AuditorÔÇÖs Office.

ÔÇ£This is what happens when Republicans work as a unit,ÔÇØ Connors said. ÔÇ£Ken Guin and the Democrats were trying to mask their attempts to grab more control of the budgetary process under the guise of accountability. Republicans beat them back today.ÔÇØ

Early in the legislative session, Democrat Guin proposed eliminating the Auditors office and placing its duties under the Office of Public Examiners. This office is an appendage of the Alabama legislature and is not an ÔÇ£independentÔÇØ agency as is the elected office of the State Auditor.

ÔÇ£We canÔÇÖt allow the Democrat controlled legislature to audit itself. This is a victory for the Republican PartyÔÇÖs war to take back state government for Alabamians,ÔÇØ Connors concluded. ÔÇ£We need to finish the job by voting these Democrats out.ÔÇØ

[street228]

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: I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it

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I hear you, I was merely doing the same...

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2: That is a state issue not a federal one.

Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state?

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It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state.

Just more rambling, follows:

There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

[street228]

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: I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it

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I hear you, I was merely doing the same...

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2: That is a state issue not a federal one.

Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state?

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It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state.

Just more rambling, follows:

There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

[Guest]

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Originally posted by street:

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: I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it

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I hear you, I was merely doing the same...

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2: That is a state issue not a federal one.

Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state?

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It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state.

Just more rambling, follows:

There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

[Guest]

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Originally posted by street:

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: I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it

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I hear you, I was merely doing the same...

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2: That is a state issue not a federal one.

Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state?

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It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state.

Just more rambling, follows:

There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

[street228]

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

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Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!!

I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems.

I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD!

I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ?

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[street228]

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

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Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!!

I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems.

I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD!

I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ?

[ 07-09-2004, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: street ]

[Kalshion]

Street

You just don't get it, and saddly you never will

The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole

His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!

The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry

That's why I say this

When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us"

So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!"

I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind

Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind"

Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways

You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America

You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.

*recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot*

[Kalshion]

Street

You just don't get it, and saddly you never will

The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole

His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!

The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry

That's why I say this

When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us"

So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!"

I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind

Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind"

Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways

You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America

You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.

*recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot*

[street228]

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Street

You just don't get it, and saddly you never will

The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole

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I believe, I DO, in fact, "GET IT". this is only your opinion...absolutly, NOTHING, but a partisen biased attack..(as usual).... NO real basis!!

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His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!

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Of this, I am aware: mere CONFIRMATION of my LOGICAL reasoning, as to the NEEDED pendulum swing, away from the EXTREME position, which Bush has entrenched his administration.

To take EITHER partisen stand, as a PREFERRED state. That of perpetual reign, is begging for a DICTORIAL state of government.

I really suggest, to you ALL who perceive this ideal as SAFE, to the American way of Life,to re-evaluate your position..... but OBVIOUSLY, you would rather see THAT way of life, conformed, to the BUSH Administration's RADICAL ideals, with no obstruction. SORRY!! NOT going to happen...as long as people like ME live and BREATH!!!

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The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry

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To insult me, and accuse MY reason, to be a PRODUCT of brainwashing, is yet ANOTHER false assumption, based on total disregard to the premise of my arguement.(something you have learned well, from whoever you have OPENED YOUR mind too)

A truly WEAK attempt to attack my conclusions, when there is no premise(other than "HE IS A LIBERAL), to justify your own position.

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When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us"

So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!"

I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind

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Here AGAIN, is ANOTHER example, of ARGUEMENT, based on OPINION, and PARTISEN prejudice; with ABSOTLUTELY NO logical reason,nor premise defined.

I CANNOT and WILL NOT follow the ADVICE of ANY who do NOT think objectively enough, to present a rational conversation...sorry if this offends you, but attacking ME personally, with: "YOUR A CLOSE MINDED, BRAINWASHED LIBERAL" position, does NOTHING, but reinforce the legitamatcy of my stand.

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Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind"

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see above

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Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways

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SORRY, I CAN NOT do you THAT kind of favor. I do NOT allow, myself to be "BRAINWASHED", by the PREACHING of RADICAL OPINIONs; by members of either party. I am an individual who hears, that which is presented, by BOTH.I make EDUCATED decisions, based on the whole of the situation; and LOGICAL decisions, based on verification of primise.

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You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America

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This is MORE evidence, of IRRATIONALITY. With WHAT PRIMISE ..never mind, I know..."Kerry is a Liberal"?

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You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.

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see above!!

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*recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot*

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Here, is nothing more than blatant disrespect, for ANY of us, VETERANS, who have served under hostile fire, that you may be able to present such warped views.

And to be perfectly HONEST, your attitude, in regard to this, literally sickens me. ( I suppose, you just have to have had the experiance, to even remotely understand)

[ 07-09-2004, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: street ]

[street228]

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Street

You just don't get it, and saddly you never will

The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole

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I believe, I DO, in fact, "GET IT". this is only your opinion...absolutly, NOTHING, but a partisen biased attack..(as usual).... NO real basis!!

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His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!

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Of this, I am aware: mere CONFIRMATION of my LOGICAL reasoning, as to the NEEDED pendulum swing, away from the EXTREME position, which Bush has entrenched his administration.

To take EITHER partisen stand, as a PREFERRED state. That of perpetual reign, is begging for a DICTORIAL state of government.

I really suggest, to you ALL who perceive this ideal as SAFE, to the American way of Life,to re-evaluate your position..... but OBVIOUSLY, you would rather see THAT way of life, conformed, to the BUSH Administration's RADICAL ideals, with no obstruction. SORRY!! NOT going to happen...as long as people like ME live and BREATH!!!

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The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry

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To insult me, and accuse MY reason, to be a PRODUCT of brainwashing, is yet ANOTHER false assumption, based on total disregard to the premise of my arguement.(something you have learned well, from whoever you have OPENED YOUR mind too)

A truly WEAK attempt to attack my conclusions, when there is no premise(other than "HE IS A LIBERAL), to justify your own position.

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When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us"

So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!"

I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind

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Here AGAIN, is ANOTHER example, of ARGUEMENT, based on OPINION, and PARTISEN prejudice; with ABSOTLUTELY NO logical reason,nor premise defined.

I CANNOT and WILL NOT follow the ADVICE of ANY who do NOT think objectively enough, to present a rational conversation...sorry if this offends you, but attacking ME personally, with: "YOUR A CLOSE MINDED, BRAINWASHED LIBERAL" position, does NOTHING, but reinforce the legitamatcy of my stand.

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Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind"

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see above

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Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways

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SORRY, I CAN NOT do you THAT kind of favor. I do NOT allow, myself to be "BRAINWASHED", by the PREACHING of RADICAL OPINIONs; by members of either party. I am an individual who hears, that which is presented, by BOTH.I make EDUCATED decisions, based on the whole of the situation; and LOGICAL decisions, based on verification of primise.

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You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America

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This is MORE evidence, of IRRATIONALITY. With WHAT PRIMISE ..never mind, I know..."Kerry is a Liberal"?

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You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.

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see above!!

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*recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot*

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Here, is nothing more than blatant disrespect, for ANY of us, VETERANS, who have served under hostile fire, that you may be able to present such warped views.

And to be perfectly HONEST, your attitude, in regard to this, literally sickens me. ( I suppose, you just have to have had the experiance, to even remotely understand)

[ 07-09-2004, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: street ]

[Kalshion]

*laughs*

You amuse me street

You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them

Then again, it's only natural

Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens

I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap

Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason, you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening

[Kalshion]

*laughs*

You amuse me street

You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them

Then again, it's only natural

Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens

I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap

Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason, you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening

[street228]

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You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them

Then again, it's only natural

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I dont need to know of those radio shows, to acknowledge your admissions as to who and what they are, and what they stand for.

I NEVER insulted the shows,but only stated my position, as to be willingly swayed,by partenship, to be UNACCEPTABLE; yet, you continue to attack me, the person, rather than debate the ideology which I,(A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT"), do stand.

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Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens

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Sorry, I am NO lier, and I do NOT adhere, nor would I ever be tempted to adhere, to the Bush doctrine, of TERROR and DOOM. TRUTH will bear itself out...REGARDLESS of delusional BELIEFs.

And concerning this nonsense, about this country falling, due to the liberal party, being servants of the DEVIL, I will let those irrational statements speak for themselves.

If there be a DEVIL, THIS COUNTRY'S POLITICIANS(FROM BOTH PARTIES)are EQUALLY CORRUPT, and NEITHER know ONE WIT, what GOD is, much less, WHO He is!!

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I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap

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Not to worry, REGARDLESS of who wins, the ELECTION, bush's power, will be; and in fact, already is, being reigned in.

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Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason,...

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I listen to reason...I just WILL NOT follow, someone's opinionated partisen rubbish, when, that rubbish negates every principle, on which our country has been built!!!.

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you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening

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I sincerely HOPE you are not referring to Jag, or yourself....lol

I am a 45 year old man, who has been ACTIVE in politics for 28 years.

I spent 6 years ACTIVE duty: defending this country's ideals, from foreign governments, who ACTIVELY promoted YOUR philosophy, as to HOW a Government should excercize it's power. In doing so, I was shot in the stomach, and lost 75% of my intestines,and 20% of my stomach, from a 50 cal round.(AND NO, I do NOT have a purple heart, and do NOT want one.)

During the Gulf WAR, I lost my wife, in Kewait(she died, delivering MAIL to U.S. soldiers, at the front)

I was born poor, and worked my way through college, with NO help from our government, in any way shape or form. I did NOT even take advantage, of the G.I bill, for my education.(I suppose, I was too proud: admittantly my greatest fault)

So, If you SAY MY ATTITUDE, is SICKENING, I suppose, you are an authority, and may very well, be right. I WILL NOT apologize, for it; NOR, will I bow down to YOUR Bush doctrine ideologies... even for a second.

[street228]

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You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them

Then again, it's only natural

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I dont need to know of those radio shows, to acknowledge your admissions as to who and what they are, and what they stand for.

I NEVER insulted the shows,but only stated my position, as to be willingly swayed,by partenship, to be UNACCEPTABLE; yet, you continue to attack me, the person, rather than debate the ideology which I,(A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT"), do stand.

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Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens

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Sorry, I am NO lier, and I do NOT adhere, nor would I ever be tempted to adhere, to the Bush doctrine, of TERROR and DOOM. TRUTH will bear itself out...REGARDLESS of delusional BELIEFs.

And concerning this nonsense, about this country falling, due to the liberal party, being servants of the DEVIL, I will let those irrational statements speak for themselves.

If there be a DEVIL, THIS COUNTRY'S POLITICIANS(FROM BOTH PARTIES)are EQUALLY CORRUPT, and NEITHER know ONE WIT, what GOD is, much less, WHO He is!!

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I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap

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Not to worry, REGARDLESS of who wins, the ELECTION, bush's power, will be; and in fact, already is, being reigned in.

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Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason,...

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I listen to reason...I just WILL NOT follow, someone's opinionated partisen rubbish, when, that rubbish negates every principle, on which our country has been built!!!.

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you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening

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I sincerely HOPE you are not referring to Jag, or yourself....lol

I am a 45 year old man, who has been ACTIVE in politics for 28 years.

I spent 6 years ACTIVE duty: defending this country's ideals, from foreign governments, who ACTIVELY promoted YOUR philosophy, as to HOW a Government should excercize it's power. In doing so, I was shot in the stomach, and lost 75% of my intestines,and 20% of my stomach, from a 50 cal round.(AND NO, I do NOT have a purple heart, and do NOT want one.)

During the Gulf WAR, I lost my wife, in Kewait(she died, delivering MAIL to U.S. soldiers, at the front)

I was born poor, and worked my way through college, with NO help from our government, in any way shape or form. I did NOT even take advantage, of the G.I bill, for my education.(I suppose, I was too proud: admittantly my greatest fault)

So, If you SAY MY ATTITUDE, is SICKENING, I suppose, you are an authority, and may very well, be right. I WILL NOT apologize, for it; NOR, will I bow down to YOUR Bush doctrine ideologies... even for a second.

[Kalshion]

Dispense with the capital words it only negates what you're saying

We agree on ONE thing Street. You're right, our politicions are corrupt, but there is preatty much nothing we can do except, VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

Attack you? (looks around) interesting.. is that what you call this? Man.. I thought this was a debate, you're taking this far to seriously

I'm through with this discussion, I can't say anything without also being attacked. Street let me know when you get out of the yelling and then perhaps we can continue this little chat

[Kalshion]

Dispense with the capital words it only negates what you're saying

We agree on ONE thing Street. You're right, our politicions are corrupt, but there is preatty much nothing we can do except, VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

Attack you? (looks around) interesting.. is that what you call this? Man.. I thought this was a debate, you're taking this far to seriously

I'm through with this discussion, I can't say anything without also being attacked. Street let me know when you get out of the yelling and then perhaps we can continue this little chat

[Guest]

First off, Bush is NOT extreme right, he is actually a moderate, I wish he would go farther to the right, but it ain't happening.

Kerry is about as far left as you can go.

He is also a Billionaire, thanks to marrying into the Heinz family. And Edwards, don't even get me started on this little hypocrite.

They are going to go after EVERY American corporaton that they can, and Neither of them has investements in ANY American corporation.

ALL of Edwards investments, over $5 million dollars are ALL in foriegn corporations where his policies won't HARM his money, and Kerry is the same way.

Socialism for everyone BUT themselves.

Yeah, Bush is to the right, my lilly white behind he is, he's just right of center, and by voting for Kerry, you're gonna slide us right into the socialist left so hard, it will literally destroy us.

The only problen you have with Bush is foreign policy, well, trouble is, you haven;t a clue what his foreign policy actually is. Because the nonsense you spout is just that, NONSENSE.

It is left wing propaganda, and you suck it up, hook line and sinker.

Oh boy, your senators and congresscritters tell you all about it, but they tell you ONLY what you want to hear.

I on the other hand talk to military intelligence people, Marines on the ground in Bagdhad, Army soldiers on the ground in Iraq, intelligence in Turkey, and others.

The picture you draw is SO FAR our of line with what is ACTUALLY happening, that it is insanity.

Time for you to find the truth there Street, because the lies you are listening to are going to destroy this country for your children and their children.

If Kerry ACTUALLY gets elected, WE ARE SCREWED...

Hillary Clinton, supreme court justice, sound good to you? how about liberal justices who are JUST LIKE HER? You ACTUALLY WANT that?

If so, you are actually a liberal, and always have been.

YOu are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and will destroy the country in the process.

Sad, JUST SAD....

[Guest]

First off, Bush is NOT extreme right, he is actually a moderate, I wish he would go farther to the right, but it ain't happening.

Kerry is about as far left as you can go.

He is also a Billionaire, thanks to marrying into the Heinz family. And Edwards, don't even get me started on this little hypocrite.

They are going to go after EVERY American corporaton that they can, and Neither of them has investements in ANY American corporation.

ALL of Edwards investments, over $5 million dollars are ALL in foriegn corporations where his policies won't HARM his money, and Kerry is the same way.

Socialism for everyone BUT themselves.

Yeah, Bush is to the right, my lilly white behind he is, he's just right of center, and by voting for Kerry, you're gonna slide us right into the socialist left so hard, it will literally destroy us.

The only problen you have with Bush is foreign policy, well, trouble is, you haven;t a clue what his foreign policy actually is. Because the nonsense you spout is just that, NONSENSE.

It is left wing propaganda, and you suck it up, hook line and sinker.

Oh boy, your senators and congresscritters tell you all about it, but they tell you ONLY what you want to hear.

I on the other hand talk to military intelligence people, Marines on the ground in Bagdhad, Army soldiers on the ground in Iraq, intelligence in Turkey, and others.

The picture you draw is SO FAR our of line with what is ACTUALLY happening, that it is insanity.

Time for you to find the truth there Street, because the lies you are listening to are going to destroy this country for your children and their children.

If Kerry ACTUALLY gets elected, WE ARE SCREWED...

Hillary Clinton, supreme court justice, sound good to you? how about liberal justices who are JUST LIKE HER? You ACTUALLY WANT that?

If so, you are actually a liberal, and always have been.

YOu are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and will destroy the country in the process.

Sad, JUST SAD....

[LostInSpace]

Does this look familiar?

No. Well have a look...

That's all we need is another Clinton in office WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

If this doesn't smack of Clinton and Gore images I've seen before I'll eat my shorts. Also, the fact that the entertainment elite have come out in support of Kerry just as they did with Clinton should send shivers down everyone's spine. All I have to say is Deja vu politics.

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[LostInSpace]

Does this look familiar?

No. Well have a look...

That's all we need is another Clinton in office WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

If this doesn't smack of Clinton and Gore images I've seen before I'll eat my shorts. Also, the fact that the entertainment elite have come out in support of Kerry just as they did with Clinton should send shivers down everyone's spine. All I have to say is Deja vu politics.

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Oh, and Michael Moore has come out in support of Kerry choice of Edwards.

Yeah, just the person that I want telling me goos job.

If Michael Moore tells me that I am doing a good job, I know that I got something WRONG BIG TIME....

[Guest]

Oh, and Michael Moore has come out in support of Kerry choice of Edwards.

Yeah, just the person that I want telling me goos job.

If Michael Moore tells me that I am doing a good job, I know that I got something WRONG BIG TIME....

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

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Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!!

I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems.

I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD!

I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ?

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You have presented NO such thing.

You have shown typical left wing propaganda.

OK, Street, let's do it this way, shall we.

Without stating ANYTHING about Bush, his policies, the war on Iraq etc, tell me the reasons that Kerry should be elected president.

NOT, we need to replace Bush, let's pretend that Bush is NOT the president, let's pretend that the Iraqi war that you are greaking out about etc has NOT happened.

NOW, WHY should Kerry be elected President?

THe fact of the matter is, without the hate Bush factor, Kerry has NOTHING to offer, NOTHING, he is another Mondale, or goldwater etc.

He is the ONLY thing that the Democrats have to offer, and there is NO way that he would win, if there was not such a ridiculous, uninformed electorate out there that hates Bush for things that he HAS NOT done.

so, can you meet the challenge?

What does Kerry have to offer, besides, not Bush?

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Originally posted by street:

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Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!!

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Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!!

I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems.

I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD!

I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ?

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You have presented NO such thing.

You have shown typical left wing propaganda.

OK, Street, let's do it this way, shall we.

Without stating ANYTHING about Bush, his policies, the war on Iraq etc, tell me the reasons that Kerry should be elected president.

NOT, we need to replace Bush, let's pretend that Bush is NOT the president, let's pretend that the Iraqi war that you are greaking out about etc has NOT happened.

NOW, WHY should Kerry be elected President?

THe fact of the matter is, without the hate Bush factor, Kerry has NOTHING to offer, NOTHING, he is another Mondale, or goldwater etc.

He is the ONLY thing that the Democrats have to offer, and there is NO way that he would win, if there was not such a ridiculous, uninformed electorate out there that hates Bush for things that he HAS NOT done.

so, can you meet the challenge?

What does Kerry have to offer, besides, not Bush?