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I'm wondering about the Police caste.

Does the police caste work under GalCom/with GalCom? Or does it run on it's own, arresting both sides? I've heard people say things going both ways.

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Also, I'm thinking that the Police force should have it's own Logo, or at least police organizations, with logos.

Read Into The Fire, Act 4, Page 4 for an idea for a police organization, called the GSI, or Galactic Special Investigations Bureau (yeah, I dropped the B off the GSI, because it didn't sound right), which is like the future of the FBI/CIA. I'm thinking this is like a corporation-style thing, in terms of organization.

Just some thoughts......

Also, click on 'Commander Alec Nova' below to open my Fleet DB page. Read the comms log to see my plans for turning my character from a mercenary to a police. I'm gonna be an undercover agent!!

[ 02-14-2003, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: Cmdr Nova ]

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Police are still basically indies, so I doubt that SC will allow a Cop-Shop.

He'd then have to allow an Assassins guild, Mercenary guild, Traders Guild and all kinda of hair-brained Indie guilds.

however I could be wrong

nahhh!

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Although I cant say for sure, I would imagine that the relationship between the military and the police would be pretty much the same as it is in todays society. The Police go after the run of the mill bad guys. The Raiders, the Criminals - you're basic social scum. The military, on the other hand, deals with much larger organisations. Enemy military forces etc, terroist organisations etc.

Generally speaking, the police would be allied with those military forces loyal to the central government. In human terms, this would mean Terran/Police work with Earthcom and by association, GalCom.

What we now get into is a matter of juristiction. Historically, there have been occasions when the military have assumed responsibility for certain civil affairs. Depending on the nature of the offence commited, who it was commited by etc, there are likely to be times when both the military and civillian police forces will want to take responsibility for the perp in question. Generally, if the military gets involved, it's because theres either some sort of cover up going on or it's dealing with a matter that the Police arent equiped to deal with.

So, who has the final say?

Again, this is difficult to determine. The military generally dont have the right to involve themselves with civillian affairs, but we all know that this tends to happen from time to time. Likewise, the Police tend not to get involved in massed miliraty engagements. Sure, they may be enemies of whatever foreign military power is busy doing bad things, but they dont take charge of engagements against them ... at least not once the military shows up.

Anyway, this is just my interpretation of things. Others far more qualified than me will probably answer better, but this makes sense to me.

Gallion, where you at?

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Well, for now, this is an unofficial RP idea. Read the Fleet DB Race/Caste Logo Page because it's got some empty sections (guilds, corporations). The GSI would easily fit under corporation, or organization.

UPDATE: DISREGARD FOLLOWING: I'm still not sure if they work under some other organization (GalCom), so that information has to come first, though.

Um, blades posted after I put this up.

[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Nova ]

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I'm merging another similar topic I started, to here.

Topic: Logos

Original Forum: Misc. Race/Caste Affiliations

Posted by Cmdr Nova:

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Posted 06-21-2001 01:07


Time for some logo building. First off we want corporations/guilds/organizations, or else the fleet guys and SC won't let us use any logos.

I'm thinking up something for the police at the moment. The idea for the GSI (Galactic Special Investigations Bureau) is cool to me, although one for the GalCom Police Force in general would be better. Any ideas Spuzzum? You being the only active RPing and boarding police member here (other than myself), you're the only one to ask at this point.

Yeah, and up in Fleet Related Discussions I posted some questions as to the organizations of police caste. Blades thinks we are partially allied with GalCom, much like the police and military of same country are.

Here's a draft for a generic police/police organization logo. We'll put an abreviation above the bird (GSI; GPF for GalCom Police Force). It is scaled to the size of the other logos. GalCom's Prime Fleet -> Delta Wing already has one of their own. Time for us indies to have some logo fun of our own.

temp-police-logo.jpg

And don't laugh that I still use AOL. It's so crappy slow, but I'm waiting for cable for now. At least it's faster than geocities, and is more reliable. Even posted some stuff for DeSylva back in march when he wanted some craft pics and the asset guide from the demo. I made some in bcstudio, zipped the pics and guide, and uploaded it
(around 1mb, and the pics are the best i've ever made).

[ 06-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Nova ]

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Posted by Epsilon 5:

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Posted 06-21-2001 07:14


Hmm... a Terran/police logo? Couldn't it be better if there was a universal police logo?

Posted by Cmdr Nova:

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Posted 06-21-2001 11:42


I think so too. Maybe it would be listed under the "Organizations" logos on the logo page?

The picture idea can be converted and added to in many ways to make a general Police logo. That's the best way to go, in my opinion. Since the police are galcom friendly, I used the terran logo as my backdrop, much like Delta Wing (Prime Fleet-Galcom) has.

Note: I've decided to add the word Police to the area above the bird. Will post 2nd draft soon.

[ 06-21-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Nova ]

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Updated logos for Police caste: (note, version 1 was the plain generic police one above)

Version 2:

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http://members.aol.com/commandernovaucv/te...lice-logo-2.jpg


Version 3:

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http://members.aol.com/commandernovaucv/te...lice-logo-3.jpg


Version 4:

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http://members.aol.com/commandernovaucv/te...lice-logo-4.jpg


These are the candidates for the Police Caste (terran? any race???) logo.

#2 looks a bit too flashy, though. I wanted to see what the fog would do to it when it was done. I could remove it later, if decided.

#3 is the same thing, no ships, no fog. Sweet and simple.

#4 is #2, without ships.

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Uh, I like 4 the best, but 3 is the simplest version which matches the galcom, and terran logos.

I think it would be #3 if it became official. Still waiting for some police person to agree with me. (Spuzzum... Where are you??)

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Update: Fixed some markup errors, and filename misspellings....... Added 3rd & 4th pics.

[ 06-22-2001: Message edited by: Cmdr Nova ]

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I'm not sure... personally, I say lose the bird altogether, since that's the major definitive symbol of the Terran race. That simple coat of arms, with ribbons above and below, ought to serve the purpose, methinks...

(Right now, I think it looks WAY too flashy. )

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Well, I'm busy. I seem to agree that the bird fits in.

SC said that the GalCom logo had the same terran bird, even though GalCom had other races as well (vice versa with the terran race thing; and SC said it was not up for complaints). I think since the main police force is sided with GalCom, then the bird should stay.

And thanks aramike; I like 4 also, but think it needs some touching up on the little coat-of-arms thing in the middle. Will work on it later (will be based on #4).

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My point was that if you have the bird, it won't be a universal police caste logo anymore.

Yes, I liked #4 the best, and for a Terran/Police logo, it looks great. But for a Droidan/Police... well, that just doesn't fit at all.

(When I said it was too flashy, I was referring to #2... just for everyone's future and present reference. )

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quote:


Originally posted by Spuzzum:

My point was that if you have the bird, it won't be a universal police caste logo anymore.

Yes, I liked #4 the best, and for a Terran/Police logo, it looks great. But for a Droidan/Police... well, that just doesn't fit at all.

(When I said it was too flashy, I was referring to #2... just for everyone's future and present reference. )


There is NO universal police organization. The closest to that would be GALCOM.

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Sigh... yes, aramike, I know that.

But as far as I could tell the original aim was to make the icon a universal (that is, interspecies) icon that any member of any police caste, regardless of species, could use to indicate that they're Police. Not a member of a specific police force, mind you, just that they're a police officer.

I'm casting my definite support for #4, of course, but if it were a interspecies police icon, and not more of a Terran icon, I'd be much more supportive of it.

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Can't disagree, but I doubt Nova's gonna make eight icons.

I'm a Terran/Police and the eagle, however clich├®d, is fine for me (and I suspect, him too). In fact, a picture in my Police Station in AW (which I hope has been safe from the ravages of pornography) use the Terran logo as a backdrop. What I'm doing is just throwing a bone to the Droidan/Police guys in my "Fleet" on the Fleet DB. However little they show up on the boards.

Anyway, Nova, if you want to, ask Tacops to let #4 through. It's a great logo!

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