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Originally posted by Marvin:

Congratulations to Shingen for sneaking his shuttle past me and Denny while his trusty sidekick, Jamotto, held down the fort.

Resnig and I where playing a game of chess on the command bridge to pass the time. Luckily, you showed up at the Foron jump gate otherwise Resnig may have won.

Seriously though I had lots of fun, shame I couldn't stick around for the next match that was being planned.

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So who may I ask is in control of the MP Scenario play now since Remo seems to have left us all in the dark on what his intentions are and without any word on what is going to happen with the MP Scenarios?

No I didn't, I posted my intentions and they were deleted.

Its up to someone else now to pickup the pieces and run with it I made everything that's needed to run the matches score sheet, scoring rules, and match guidelines. You also have two good examples as to how the match ROE is put together.

What else do you want me to do?

You all know why I backed off from the lead on this. If I was to host the matches and denied ISS access to the competition it would cause even more problems.

I'm just your average FL now if you need to discuss stuff with me you can find me at PHQ where I'm busy running Prime and working on all my websites. Stop by and see for yourself thereÔÇÖs a lot less drama over there and no trouble makers to contented with.

I've setup a schedule, tournament, and championship. If no one wants to organize and run the matches what can I say I've done my part and got smacked in the face for my effort. The only reason a came through here now was to see how everything went today at least some of you are trying to proceed my hat is off to you good effort guys. I hope you can get the show on the road before the next meet date.

You all take care and good luck with MP Prime will be there to compete thatÔÇÖs for sure. You know where to find me if you need advice. I don't come here much for obvious reasons so don't bother posting questions for me here it will go unanswered unless Marvin decides to field the question for me.

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I thank you very much for coming in and giving me all the answers to my questions remo. It is good to hear that we haven't lost you in all the mess that has been going on between you and this community (myself included ). I don't feel that there should be a problem with you coming in and speaking with the community here at 3000AD acting as just a fleet leader.

Marvin if you know where remo is please pass this message on to him.

Also I would like to know who is going to be hosting these MP scenarios and if there is no one assigned then I would suggest involving all fleet leaders in running them, get fleet leaders together to vote on who should run them, or maybe find a volunteer.

With that said, when is the next meet? And if it isn't already I think the meets and other information on when these scenarios are going to be played out should be posted some where.

So if any one knows and can answer these questions then please do so.

Thank you,

Captain Reed

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I was supposed to take part in yesterdays match, but sudden thunderstorm changed plans for me

We were out of electricity for about half an hour, enough that I was already late, so I went to bed early for change

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I thank you very much for coming in and giving me all the answers to my questions remo. It is good to hear that we haven't lost you in all the mess that has been going on between you and this community (myself included ).

LOL! Ok no problem Reed, BTW I have no problem with this community just a few of the new members in it, two to be exact. Most if not all of the vets here are my friends have been for years long before you even had an inkling that this community existed so no my problem isn't with this community.

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Originally posted by Remo Williams:

If I was to host the matches and denied ISS access to the competition it would cause even more problems.


Why would you do that?

Look, I've said it before, I don't have time for this crap you and Zane have got going. He seems to have taken the high road, while you're panting around sulking. I mean, c'mon, this is STUPID.

And no, I'm not missing anything. I've got ALL the facts from several people already and this is just plain ridiculous. Look, if you want to excuse yourself from Prime, do it and be DONE with it; safe in the thought that Zane, and pretty much everyone else, will still be here. I mean, c'mon, this is getting more and more ridiculous by the day and you're only making yourself look bad. With all the contributions you've made, I mean why this crap all of a sudden?

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I thank you very much for coming in and giving me all the answers to my questions remo. It is good to hear that we haven't lost you in all the mess that has been going on between you and this community (myself included ).

LOL! Ok no problem Reed, BTW I have no problem with this community just a few of the new members in it, two to be exact. Most if not all of the vets here are my friends have been for years long before you even had an inkling that this community existed so no my problem isn't with this community.


Oh yeah. Right. So, with ALL that, you'd rather screw up what you've created because of TWO people? Gimme a break. How does that make ANY sense whatsover? What if I were to shut down ALL the servers, kill the fleet dB because I'm sick of this crap? I'd be doing that because I'm sick and tired of this crap with you and Zane (who doesn't seem to be saying ANYTHING about it - while you go on and on and on at EVERY opportunity); who would that hurt the most? The majority; thats who. Be sensible.

I dunno, but maybe I should schedule a military tribunal or something.

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Originally posted by Captain Reed:

Also I would like to know who is going to be hosting these MP scenarios...

Sunday, we used Server 3. If all players set a launch shortcut to intitiate a chat log, using SC's non-AG server works just fine. You just need to follow the instructions previously posted to this forum.

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With that said, when is the next meet? And if it isn't already I think the meets and other information on when these scenarios are going to be played out should be posted some where.

I believe it's already posted somewhere. But, assuming it isn't, the next scheduled meet is two weeks from yesterday. The time varies, being adjusted according to who showed when in the previous session. For instance, a couple of us sat around on TeamSpeak until 2100 hours Greenwich local time (GLT) before getting enough players for a 2 vs 2 match. Ergo, I'd suggest starting the next match at 2100 hrs GLT.

Previously, the particulars of a match were hashed out among fleet leaders a few days before the actual meet. The scenario was discussed and any last-minute changes made. ROE finalized.

Procedures for loggin in, using TeamSpeak, chatting, etc. seem to work just fine as they currently exist so, for the next meet, anyone interested should probably be thinking about the scenario: use the old one as is, modify it, use the one Shin thought up yesterday (Sunday), or develop something new?

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Note: Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is the same, all year, as Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).

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Originally posted by Dreada:

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Originally posted by Marvin:

TeamSpeak until 2100 hours Greenwich local time (GLT) before

GLT?? Never heard of it,


Marvin, what is GLT's offset to GMT/UTC?

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Originally posted by Dreada:

...and yes I am winding you up!

Blasted timezones!

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And no, I'm not missing anything. I've got ALL the facts from several people already and this is just plain ridiculous. Look, if you want to excuse yourself from Prime, do it and be DONE with it; safe in the thought that Zane, and pretty much everyone else, will still be here. I mean, c'mon, this is getting more and more ridiculous by the day and you're only making yourself look bad.


Do I want to excuse myself from Prime NO sir I don't. Do you want me to resign?

I'm just standing up trying to protect all my effort and the livelihood of the fleets from a usurper.

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With all the contributions you've made, I mean why this crap all of a sudden?


I guess someone spiked my corn flakes with crack. No seriously boss when I feel threatened(meaning all my work)I latch on like a pit bull and don't let go until the problems gone. How else do you think prime was/is so successful I run a tight ship and never give up until I succeed no matter what the cost. I'm sure you can relate to that boss.

Ok I'm done, seeing how no one else is concerned about this site why should I be as you said defending my work is just making me look bad. This doesn't mean that Zane and me are going to be swapping spit in the shower but its over.

Reflecting back over the last few weeks it is true that the only people being hurt by this mess Zane started is the fleets.

Now its time to get back to work and let whatever happens happen. The next fleet meet is scheduled for Sept 26 at 19:00hrs GMT, BST, DVD ^$#@! Whatever LOL!

Prime fleet will be hosting and organizing the event so fleet leaders get ready to rock and roll to get your teams made up before the event date. I'll be contacting each of you with the proposed match ROE that will be used. The stats to date for all players will be up at GalCom online this week I'll post I link when I'm finished with the page.

Yes I'm taking PM's again for those of you with questions. Feel free to contact me I'll respond ASAP. Yes Zane, Reed that means you too. Just don't try to talk to me about that damn site and will be just fine.

Lets get to work men IÔÇÖve wasted too much time already in our defense apparently for nothing since I stood alone.

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Prime fleet will be hosting and organizing the event so fleet leaders get ready to rock and roll to get your teams made up before the event date. I'll be contacting each of you with the proposed match ROE that will be used. The stats to date for all players will be up at GalCom online this week I'll post I link when I'm finished with the page.

Yes!!! That's the Remo we all know! Don't forget, Remo, the Insurgents will help in organizing as well, like we helped to test the Shuttle Strike scenario!

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Thanks Sho I can sure use the help with this stuff!

I apologise to the fleets for my behavor recently I really believe what I was fighting for or I wouldn't have pushed so hard. I hope you don't hold my dedication to Derek and the fleets against me. I was honestly just trying to defend us from what I preceive as a threat.

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What ever you do don't lay the world on your shoulders thinking that you can fight every threat no matter how small. It is just a game and should not be taken too seriously. I know you have done a lot of work for this community and I believe that as long as you are here it will continue to live on. Just don't stress your self out to the point that you pop a vein on your fore head.

If worse comes to worse take a week off and go for a brisk walk through the woods or something.

Now I also appologize for my behavior towards you remo. When I saw what you were doing to Zane I thought you were being, as SC said, ridiculous and blew up. Now I think Zane is a good man and I didn't see why you were ripping into him so much, but now I do. I still don't see the big threat though. Zane is running his own thing. He is treating this game just like any other. Battlefield 1942 has multiple MP based tournament systems all created by different people. Now I feel that Zanes' MP Scenario system is just a side deal were if I am not doing anything one day I can go play there. You could call it an added bonus to those who have the time to play. So are we to persecute someone for having an idea or a vision just because it is placing more preasure on the pioneer of UC MP scenario design and game play. You, yourself, have had that vision and persued it to the finishing point, the point that we are currently at and are enjoying very much. You have worked hard on it and we appreciate it, but you can't control the world and that is why no one here can understand why you are fighting so hard to get rid of any competition against your MP system. Now I am sure that at a later time as this game becomes more popular you will meet another person setting up an MP scenario system. There isn't much that we can do when this game is public and in the hands of others. The only thing I can suggest is protect your MP scenario information to prevent it from getting stolen and used else where if at all possible.

If you ask me since I am apart of a fleet and was part of a fleet before even knowing anything about what Zane was working on I would most definitely put fleet business before Zanes' stuff. So I hope you don't take any of this the wrong way and that I have been clear in the fact that all of what you have done is appreciated (by me as well as many others) and I hope to continue working with you in any way possible to help when time permits.

So I salute you in the work that you have done and hope that you will continue your contribution to this community as well as working with me if at all possible.

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Originally posted by Remo Williams:

Lets get to work men IÔÇÖve wasted too much time already in our defense apparently for nothing since I stood alone.

Not really, Boss. But when it got to the point I was being reminded of the knight who stood his ground in Monty Python and the Holy Grail ... well, when it started to look like this, I just couldn't watch anymore.

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LMAO! Marvin say it isn't so.

Thanks, Cmdr. Reed now lets get to work. Talk to Dreada and find out if you guys have an operational team to field on the 26th.

Remember guys the best way I found to communicate with my fleet was to hold meetings with my staff on TS. You can get a lot more accomplished in a shorter amount of time. All fleets are welcome to use our TS server, which is up 24/7 to hold meetings or practice sessions with your troops.

Marvin or Shingen, please send me a copy of the ROE that was improvised at yesterdays match. I'm really interested in what you put together. Plus I need it to apply any score awarded for completing the objective.

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Originally posted by: Remo Williams

Thanks, Cmdr. Reed now lets get to work. Talk to Dreada and find out if you guys have an operational team to field on the 26th.

I believe we do, but I will contact him to be sure. I am sure that I will be there so we will at least have one.

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Originally posted by: Remo Williams

Remember guys the best way I found to communicate with my fleet was to hold meetings with my staff on TS. You can get a lot more accomplished in a shorter amount of time. All fleets are welcome to use our TS server, which is up 24/7 to hold meetings or practice sessions with your troops.


I think that is a very good idea and will recommend this to Dreada when I contact him.

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Originally posted by Remo Williams:

Marvin or Shingen, please send me a copy of the ROE that was improvised at yesterdays match.

Very simple. First team to land an AI shuttle on the designated planet got the win. Any kills would've been scored as you've previously posted. No kills were made. Shingen slipped by me and Denny via the flux field.

Ergo, a team win for the raiders.

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Ok so there were no objective points to divide between the winning team members. A shuttle is fast did you use ships that are capable of catching a shuttle in the ROE. Because thereÔÇÖs no way a cruiser can run down a shuttle, I assume the ROE is designed for fighter combat. We'll have to document it and add it to the growing collection to refine.

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Originally posted by Remo Williams:

I assume the ROE is designed for fighter combat.

You could use fighters. But remember, the shuttle was AI ... not piloted by one of the players. Had Street or Papi joined, then we would've had uneven sides and the odd-man-out would've piloted the SC. As it was, the shuttle needed to be sheparded by a larger craft ... one capable of launching the shuttle. Consequently, we left it up to the team leader to decide which craft (I.A.W. previous R.O.E.) to use. Even in a warmonger or solnar, I could've caught Shingen had he taken the same route.

With a human pilot, Denny and Shin had already suggested using an armed transport instead of a shuttle. Slower. Slow enough to catch, if need be.

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Yeah, we can use a player in an armed/unarmed transport and two escort craft to be chosen from carriers or cruisers.

We can play it both side together (both with the transport) or one at time, so a team will escort the transport with carriers and criusers and the other will stage an attack/ambush; to keep this more balanced I suggest using a carrier/cruiser and two fighters.

...my 2 cents...

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Originally posted by ShoHashi:

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Prime fleet will be hosting and organizing the event so fleet leaders get ready to rock and roll to get your teams made up before the event date. I'll be contacting each of you with the proposed match ROE that will be used. The stats to date for all players will be up at GalCom online this week I'll post I link when I'm finished with the page.

Yes!!! That's the Remo we all know! Don't forget, Remo, the Insurgents will help in organizing as well, like we helped to test the Shuttle Strike scenario!


There you go. He's back, I hope.
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What a good day... ... the SC anwered our debat on the solar reactor and the fleets matches are going to get up to speed soon... ...I'm gonna put a mark on my calendar...

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Guest Remo Williams

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If there's time, I'd like to experiment with the other scenario I mentioned at the FL meeting.


I hope to hold several ROE test sessions before the next meet, so will have a selection of missions to embark on.

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There you go. He's back, I hope.

Heh, I remembered my GalCom life insurance policy doesn't cover Kamikaze missions.

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Seriously:

for your fleet practice needs..just show up in server #4, and TRY to kill the "Coyotes"...."Commander street, presiding"

just dubb me the fox, for the fox hunt...


Use server 3 and I'm sure you'll hear the dogs barking in the distance.

Server 4 has AG on and is not used for fleet activities.

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