Tekrebel

I say let the Arms race begin, we can afford it, China can't!! Maybe you think your country can afford it but the money would be better spent on education, poverty reduction, environment protection and other stuff that would benefit mankind in the long run. We don't need this Star Wars project which supposedly protects us against the so-called rogue nations. And please, I don't want to hear about your so called "objective" newspaper articles on the Yellow Peril. What's next, a multi billion dollar glass shielded dome around the US to protect us from the rest of the world? This paranois crap has gone for far too long and another arm would only benefit the weapon industry. What do you think the poor people in the street think about the goverment spending more money on military than social programs? And no, not all poor people are drunk and lazy bums who sit on their ass doing nothing. This is not BCM, this is real life, let's act to build a better future, not destroy it. Pipedream? At least it's better than what Bush has plans for.

I can't believe how much gas they used in Quebec, they were gasing just about anybody, an old woman beside me was taken to the hospital because she choked on too much teargas. The ****ing canadian pm was using the word "democracy" all the time in his speeches. Yeah, talk about democracy... Corporations now have more power than some goverments. "...beauty is in the street..."

First I would like to apologize for the generalization I made. It was completely improper. The fact is that the Chinese started this, we were NOT spying, if we had been in their airspace, it would have been spying. We were in International waters, we were surveying, there is a difference!! Well I'm sorry for you being so gullible. The fact is that the US has been spying on almost every country in the world for quite some time now. I'm sure other countries do the same thing but it is in my opinion foolish to accept unquestionably the military version of the fact (surveying stuff). We are the ONLY superpower, we have every right to be pissed off when some little commy country decides to trifle with us, no matter how big it's population."..." I don't think I should dignify this comment with a response. I tend to believe that was intentional flamebait :] Bush and his staff are the best this country has to offer, they will get it right, and we can scream and yell as much as we want, but what they do is what matters. They will not do anything like Nuke them, but you may be surprised at what they do do. Yes, I'm sure they are the best. They have decided not to honor the Kyoto accord, gave compagnies more power and are now trying to bully other countries in doing the same thing. What is going to happen to the environment? Is it okay to support a goverment that puts money and military in front of people, environment and social values? Add that to the fact that the chinese fighter had to be really damn close and with matching speeds and similar vectors to hit the bigger aircraft and not cause a collision which would have brought both of them down. How did the US plane not go down or break into pieces? Ask any RL pilot, they can tell you how damn improbable that is if it had been anything else but a bump between craft flying too close. It's something we will never know for sure since it is known that the media are pretty good at "arranging" stories so they fit the goverment needs. Same thing applies for China. Someone said in the previous replies that China did this intentionally. Excuse me but do you sincerely think that the chinese were making evil schemes to bring one of those spy plane down? US Imperialism, you say? At the last I heard, we were the United States of America, not the People's Republic of States. If you want to look at Imperialists, look at China. Here in the US, we have a little something called the Bill of Rights. Certain inalienable rights granted to all of us based on the fact that we are human. Yes but how can the US goverment go and tell other countries how to act when they're rotten from the inside with so many social problems? After all, America is the country with the most people in prison, not China. We need to fix our problems before going out and playing Big Brother with the other ones. Expanding their military forces, threatening Taiwan with invasion, and building ICBM's that could reach completely across the Pacific Ocean is not threatening? If you look at it from an objective point of view, the United States are doing exactly the same thing. They have now broken that faith. And let me ask you this. No matter how it happened, if they were Canadian soliders, would you want them back? Of course but I'm sure the soldiers there are being treated properly. It's not as if China could afford being accused of torture. There is many things going on that we don't know about. Military is war, bad things happen on both sides of the line. What I think we should NOT forget is that the US goverment has OFTEN supported revolutions in places all over the globe to put DICTATORS in office because these leaders have agreed to some economic partership with the US. Most people in North America (Canada too) have NO idea how much blood is dripping from their hands for policies the goverment they voted for have applied. Yes, my posts seem totally anti-american. I do not wish to make it seem that way, but I felt by reading the posts here that I needed to balance things a bit. Yes, I am canadian by birth but I have never supported the fascist regime in place and I will never identify myself as being a proud canadian. With the current goverment in place, Canada is simply following the US lead in too many areas. We must stop pretending the American Way is the best one and that we must enforce it on every other individual on the planet. But I guess I'm straying a bit too far from the subject now.

I am so disgusted with the attitute of the american people. As if the US wouldn't do the same if they were in the PRC position. The pilots in the plane knew the game: when you spy, you can get caught and shit happens. The chinese are the only one who got people dead in this incident and now all you guys get all patriotic and say we must nuke their ass or launch a few cruise missiles in their cities?!? Excuse me while I puke. I guess you're all brainwashed by the media that tries to convince you of the threat the "evil chinese empire" is posing. The US get all angry and shit when a few of their soldiers die but what about the thousands of other soldiers AND CIVILIANS who died in Iraq, Kosovo and other wars against "The Bad Guys"?! Down with the US emperialism and the mindless nationalism. Open your eyes and stop pretending you're the best country in the world and that everyone else has to be like you. Go in to China and maybe you'll see that there's friendly people there who don't deserve to get nuked or bombed just like in the US. Oh man, I can feel the flames coming my way...