Justsomeguy Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Okay I know I havent been playing BCM for a long time or anything but I can't help but ask. Why would anyone bother playing a commercial, explorer, trader, scientist, diplomat castes? Seriously I can see the slight benefit of not having enemies pick you off first thing and their ships have a lot large goods capacity but in the grand sceme of things what good is that? I have been playing a commercial caste flying a Tarin MK2. My ship has two pidly defense turrets which I can't use offensivly to well as well as the ability to lay mines. Sure I can run huge ammounts of goods from system to system which I do but that seems to be all I can do. I am currently mining Saturn for even more money which is an intresting change of pace. Though it seems thats all I am limited to doing mining and trading. I will never be able to go out on hunts or antyhing, I can even fire a missle. Anyhow to my grand question can someone tell me if I have been wasting my time playing commercial cast or is there some grand redeming feature that I am missing? Why not just join the Military, Galcom or Insurgent and hop in a Super Carrier and do everything I can now with the added firepower? Or heck even just join one of them and get my ol Tarin MK2 which all have access to and do what I did? I hope someone can help me I feel kind of frusrated when putting in a lot of time on this ship already. [ 08-04-2002, 02:40 AM: Message edited by: Justsomeguy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunanta Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 I believe that those castes will be of greater significance in multiplayer. For now, they just influence how other castes react to you (I think) and restrict your access to certain ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sunanta: I believe that those castes will be of greater significance in multiplayer. For now, they just influence how other castes react to you (I think) and restrict your access to certain ships.Correct. Besides, like every game based on a franchise series, all whats gone into the BC games, wrt the history, aliens, castes etc were fleshed out many, many years ago and will take at least another several years (BCO and beyond) to come to full realization. In fact, it is only in BCM that you can play any race/caste other than Terran/Military. And in BCG you will still be able to choose the desired race/caste, but you can also buy a new ship at any time and transfer all your crap+crew into it. Unlike BCM, BCG doesn't allow you to pick the best available craft from the word go. You can only pick whats available at the station at the time (usually a bunch of scrap metal) etc etc With the ability to construct your own planetary cities, bases, space stations etc, well, BCG will cater a lot more to those non-hostile castes than ever before. There are lots of tiny things in BCG that aren't even mentioned in the features list. Why? Well, that would spoil the surprises won't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnson Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: Unlike BCM, BCG doesn't allow you to pick the best available craft from the word go. You can only pick whats available at the station at the time (usually a bunch of scrap metal) etc etc So....does that mean that there's no way (except cheating) that i'll be able to start in a Stormcarrier? quote: With the ability to construct your own planetary cities, bases, space stations etc, well, BCG will cater a lot more to those non-hostile castes than ever before. We can construct stuff in **BCG**? Where is that on the features list? (I thought contruction was limited to BCO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARWMSRK Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 quote: So....does that mean that there's no way (except cheating) that i'll be able to start in a Stormcarrier? No, you can start with whats at the station at the time you choose your craft. It says what each station has in the appendix under starstations.. (unless sc decides to change things around) Besides, stormcarriers are overrated floating hunks of SLOW trash begging to be destroyed [ 08-04-2002, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: Carl Burning ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnson Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Yeah, I guess I assumed he'd change things around.... Stormcarriers rock, with all those turrets and guns in combination with all the marines and support craft.... You don't need to be fast when you have 12 fighters to do that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MIKE113 Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 LOL!!! You are right about that Carl. I have no problem taking them out. My Garid flys circles around them! Also noticed that the fighters like to bug out when Mother is destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grayfox Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 thankfully im a marine... dont have to worry about grabbing a ship. ill be just happy in an atv cruisin around a planet... although it would be a very bad thing if a RANDOM was dropped on said planet whilst i was cruising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 In BCG, as a marine you can survive a RANDOM attack if you have sufficient armor and a Personal Shield Unit (PSU). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Oh, so the RANDOM isn't the be-all-end-all that it used to be. It's difficult to imagine anything surviving such an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grayfox Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 oh hell ya... go ahead and random me... if you have a nose cam on that thing, all youll see is me standing on the surface, feet spread, middle finger on both hands extended although ill be glowing in the dark for the next 500 years (ala blight in batman beyond) i'll still be able to whupass... although i think my teammates would prefer to wear bio suits while around me [ 08-05-2002, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: Grayfox ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Pablo Laracuente Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 SC said "if you have sufficient armor and a PSU" That means that IT does very much damage, the only thing is that you can survive wasting all your armor and shields leaving you naked... BTW: I saw Resnig naked on operations after he took a shower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remo Williams Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Grayfox: oh hell ya... go ahead and random me... if you have a nose cam on that thing, all youll see is me standing on the surface, feet spread, middle finger on both hands extended LOL! I've been messing with a logo for Primes 1st OMB thats simular to this. With the motto Facing Death From Above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendi Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: There are lots of tiny things in BCG that aren't even mentioned in the features list. Why? Well, that would spoil the surprises won't it? I hate it when you do that. Now I've got to check for updates every 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Elio Jason Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: And in BCG you will still be able to choose the desired race/caste, but you can also buy a new ship at any time and transfer all your crap+crew into it. i wouldn't want to transfer Resnig to my new ship for him to screw up sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Urza: Oh, so the RANDOM isn't the be-all-end-all that it used to be. It's difficult to imagine anything surviving such an attack.It is, so I dunno what you're talking about. Nothing's changed except that if you have the above items, you might survive. How many fools do you think would be in possession of full armor and a PSU (optional inventory item) at any one time? And even if you have it, it may not even be charged. Which means, you'll still be roasted (after being illuminated a nice, bright Orange first ) Even a regular OTS will cause you harm and radiate you if you don't get killed - assuming you are standing within its blast radius. I'm probably going to be rendering all radiated personnel a nice glowing Green or Orange so that you can see them a long distance away. [ 08-05-2002, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Supreme Cmdr ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cmdr Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by fendi: quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: There are lots of tiny things in BCG that aren't even mentioned in the features list. Why? Well, that would spoil the surprises won't it? I hate it when you do that. Now I've got to check for updates every 5 minutes. hehe, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolferz Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: I'm probably going to be rendering all radiated personnel a nice glowing Green or Orange so that you can see them a long distance away.Alrighty then. Nukem till they glow, then shootem in the dark. I must say I LIKE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grayfox Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 what was it they used to teach the kids in school back in the 50's and 60's??? duck and cover??? gotta give us ground pounders some credit, cause god sure as hell didnt give us any brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismoney7 Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: (after being illuminated a nice, bright Orange first )LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genken Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Yeah...ground pounders are nice...I don't do too well ground pounding anymore... oh, remember this one quote... "God loves medics" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insecttoid3 Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: ...transfer all your crap+crew into it...[rp] cmdr: everybody packed up and ready to move? crew: yes sir! cmdr: ok before we get moving, resnig? resnig: sir? cmdr: gather up your marines and visit the refresher stations. i want all crap removed and distributed evenly between the refreshers in the new ship before we move in. understand? resnig: sir yes sir!! resnig thought: finaly! something i can do right! [/rp] [ 08-09-2002, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: insecttoid3 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genken Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by insecttoid3: quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: ...transfer all your crap+crew into it...[rp] cmdr: everybody packed up and ready to move? crew: yes sir! cmdr: ok before we get moving, resnig? resnig: sir? cmdr: gather up your marines and visit the refresher stations. i want all crap removed and distributed evenly between the refreshers in the new ship before we move in. understand? resnig: sir yes sir!! resnig thought: finaly! something i can do right! [/rp] LMAO!!! Taking it seriously eh? OMG that is funny. Be sure to dump those marines and Resnig out of the airlock...and make sure he doesn't even go within 20 feet or so of the DNA storage units...we dont want him using is dirty hands to play with the jars filled with "colorfull" liquid. You dont even want to know what happens when you mix Human DNA with crap...messy results...runny too. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrai Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Genken: "God loves medics"so do snipers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiPingScoba Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 quote: (from Genken) "You dont even want to know what happens when you mix Human DNA with crap...messy results...runny too. lol" And where do you think Resnig came from in the first place? [ 08-13-2002, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: HiPingScoba ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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