Nakaleen Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 I heard of Battlecruiser for ages but never seen the series. But I was in EB last week and they had a lot of these BCMGÔÇÖs. Looking at the cover and reading the back I was impressed (I am a Elite/Frontier veteran) and LOVE open-ended games. But I have been burnt before on games claming the earth and deliverying something very poor. So I found a video store the hires PC games and they had this game. I was prepared for a steep learning curve but didnÔÇÖt expect a sheer cliff face hehehe. Anyway by the 3rd night (last night of the hire) to move around in a carrier and able to get into a shuttle. Great timing as I was traveling down to earth a large cruiser hyperspaced in and my first officer decided to attack it so my ship took off. Scrambling to get to the ship I finally caught up and docked while in the middle of the fire fight. 5 min passed while we trading blows while I was trying to read the manual to launch my fighters. I got all four out and defeated the cruiser (Woohoo). My fighters docked but the launch lays showed red for ages (1/2 an hour) while other enemy ships started to attack the sector. But I was very impressed in the detail in the game and want to buy it. But, checking the net I have seen a game called Universal Combat. Checking the release dates it shows that it is (hopefully this month). It looks to be a updated version of BCMG. So should I get BCMG or UC? For example will UC have the same complexity as BCMG? Or will they dumb it down a little. Will it also come out before Xmas in Oz? But that I have played was great. CanÔÇÖt wait to own one of these games. One thing I tried to do was played as a Paramedic or planetary support craft in roam mode. Can they really do anything ie. help NPC? As I just flew around with nothing to do. The manual didnÔÇÖt explain those career well to get me started. P.S. Who ever written the manual for BCMG. I believe is was written for someone who has played Battlecruiser before, not the newbie. Having a section just getting the basic down will help people who tend to judge a game in the first few hours (and not give up) Hope the UC manual is a bit more user friendly but just as detailed. I am happy to be a new BC fan
Guest drdespair Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 If you look through some of the post related to UC you will notice two words which should give you some idea as to the difference between UC and BCMG, the words are ÔÇ£Battlecruiser PoweredÔÇØ . UC is not what exactly what BCG was supposed to be, it was rebranded and the design changes for the game to be more action oriented. This does not mean that UC will be dumbed down version of BCG (I certainly hope note) but some aspects of the game have been changed in order for the player to concentrate more on whatÔÇÖs going on around him (the action) rather then things like automating switching from normal flight to VTOL (recently in discussion). DS has said that people from BCMG background should not notice any changes, and probably appreciate some of the automation that will be available. The biggest changes are the new DX9 engine, which includes the space combat, and the terrain engine which has REALY been reworked. (check out some of the video and screen shots available) The ground unit combat has been redone with new models and animation. Anyway I decide to have both the UC when it comes out, and BCMG. I donÔÇÖt know but perhaps Dreamcatcher will make some sort of special package deal on UC + BCMG ??
Supreme Cmdr Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Nakaleen: So I found a video store the hires PC games and they had this game.Really? what store was that and do they have a website. Also, what game was it? BCM (Blue box) or BCM Gold? (Gold/Black box) quote:I was prepared for a steep learning curve but didn?t expect a sheer cliff face hehehe.LOL!!! Did you bring a rope? quote:So should I get BCMG or UC? For example will UC have the same complexity as BCMG? Or will they dumb it down a little. Will it also come out before Xmas in Oz?If you can afford it, you should get both, because BCM Gold is the last Battlecruiser game of its kind. UC is a whole new ball game in some aspects.
Nakaleen Posted December 11, 2003 Author Report Posted December 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: quote:I was prepared for a steep learning curve but didn?t expect a sheer cliff face hehehe.LOL!!! Did you bring a rope?I did have one untill a round little Hobbit nicked off with it, then went down a river with 7 of his mates quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: quote:So should I get BCMG or UC? For example will UC have the same complexity as BCMG? Or will they dumb it down a little. Will it also come out before Xmas in Oz?If you can afford it, you should get both, because BCM Gold is the last Battlecruiser game of its kind. UC is a whole new ball game in some aspects. Well it is late night shopping tonight so I will go to EB. But the games I buy must have replay value. I don't know if I will play BCMG once I get UC..... hmmm I will ask EB if they have a relase date to UC, I am not sucidle (spelling?) so I won't ask here hehehehehe And if it is not too long (with in 4 weeks) I will wait otherwise I will buy BCMG tonight.
Nakaleen Posted December 11, 2003 Author Report Posted December 11, 2003 Well tonight made my choices clear. Went to EB, they never heard of UC and don't have a release date. So I got BCMG. Got home and opened it up. For a start the manual is only has a 50 page manual?!?! one good thing though that is has detailed tutorials in it. and no keys reference card (it is on the last two pages of the manual) So I pop the CD in and it sounded like a lawn mower in the cd drive. It failes to install (error in install files) so I put it in my other drive, sounds the same and the same result to install. Traveld back to EB (30 min each way) got the CD swaped over. Arrived home..... same thing I even tried to copy the files over to the hd, but when I try to install it again is asks for the CD So tomorrow I'll get my money back and just have to wait until UC arrives....
Supreme Cmdr Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 It sounds like a problem with your CDROM drive and not the CD. If you copied the files to the HDD and you try to install, it should NEVER require the CDROM because it doesn't need it. The only time it will require the CDROM is when you are actually playing the game. As for the manual etc, the European production has a smaller manual but the full thing will be installed in PDF format during game install. And you're going to have to wait a lot longer for UC because I don't expect it to show up in Australia before March next year.
Nakaleen Posted December 11, 2003 Author Report Posted December 11, 2003 3rd CD... same result. I even took them to my work and put it in 4 PC's, all the same result. Looks like my local EB got a bad batch. I will get this game even if it kills me hehehe Well I hope to be flying getting shot down by the weekend
Supreme Cmdr Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 Damn that sucks. Tell you what, seeing you had to go through all this darn trouble, keep the last copy you got (assuming you still have it), then send me your mailing address to [email protected] and I'll have Lisa contact DC Europe and see about getting you a replacement CDROM FOC. I'm sure they have contacts down under and can make it happen.
Extinct_Reptilia Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Alacard: Wow, now that's customer service!!! haha, and that's right from the designer of the game! This forum is amazing!!
Nakaleen Posted December 13, 2003 Author Report Posted December 13, 2003 Wow I have never seen such service before.... Thanks for the great offer, but I have now got a working version. After the 4th cd I returned the whole game back to EB and got a refund. Then went to another EB and got the game there. It works like a charm. Been playing the game ever since getting home with it (3 hours) Been killed a few times but haveing fun hehehe
Supreme Cmdr Posted December 13, 2003 Report Posted December 13, 2003 Glad you got it working. You are running the latest patches (one was released today), right?
Nakaleen Posted December 13, 2003 Author Report Posted December 13, 2003 Yep I am d/l'ing it as I speak. While doing that I am just playing a normal combat role. I'm glad I have found this game (a Elite II vet).
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