Scrivener Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Posted October 10, 2004 Clarification - If you couldn't deal with the Feebles, you might want to pass on this as well. They may be puppets but... yeah. It's a very very very hard R. The rare movie that totaly restores my faith in cinema. At least for a week or two. Team America is bloody FANTASTIC. I have slipped it in my all time #2 spot. Just under Kill Bill and just over Moulin Rouge. Whats most fantastic about this - is that it's treated like a SERIOUS REAL MOVIE. More impressive, is that it has STAYING POWER. I can see TA being as relevant 8-16 years down the line as it is today. Better yet, it's friggin hilarious. Wonton, gratuitous, and over-the-top yes, but also genuinely funny. As far as I'm concerned, this is Oscar material, and the second best movie ever crafted. Will you like it? Well, that's a tough question, but I've crafted a little worksheet to help you decide. Scriv's Guide to "Can Yo Handle Team America?" A1) Do you find Rocky Horror Picture Show entertaining? A2) Did you enjoy Meet the Feebles? A3) Do you enjoy South Park? B1) Are you offended by frequent use of 'strong language' or graphic sexual situations? B2) Are you sensitive about topics concerning AIDS or other life threatening terminal illnesses? B3) Are you easily 'disgusted' or 'made ill'? Add 1 point for every YES in the A category. Add 1 point for every NO! in the B category. A score of 4 or greater means you will likely enjoy Team America. The problem is, there are going to be tons of people out there who 1) are too damn sensitive for their own good or 2) have no sense of humor - and they will find this movie in VERY poor taste. But that's one of the nice things about America - not everything has to be custom tailored to please EVERYONE. At least - not yet.
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 10, 2004 Report Posted October 10, 2004 This movie was complete and utter rubbish. Go see Shark Tales instead. 0/10
Guest $iLk Posted October 10, 2004 Report Posted October 10, 2004 I saw a special showing of this movie last night... and though it lampoons both sides, I think through symbolism it shows quite a bit of what we can all see. A couple of hilights: HANS BLIX: Mr Il, you must allow me full access to your palace to search for WMD's or else. KIM JONG IL: Or else what? HANS BLIX: Or else the countries of the UN are going to come together. And we're going to write you a very stern letter. --------------------------- Also: (during news coverage of a protest against Team America) PETER JENNINGS: This just in - it looks like Michael Moore has joined the '**** Team America' Bandwagon. MICHAEL MOORE (holding hot dogs): Yeah! Down with the fascists! Yeah! --------------- Bascially... the movie has a few instances where terrorists are in a country... and Team America manages to stop them... but not without blowing up half of the area they are in. A missile misses a terrorist for instance and blows up a national landmark. So the terrorists lose... but the people are still pissed off at Team America. Main enemies of Team America include the Film Actors Guild (F.A.G.) led by Alec Baldwin, Kim Jong Il of North Korea, and the terrorists. Most Arab dialogue consists of: Arab Terrorist: Dukka Dukka Dukka Mohammed Jihad Arab Terrorist 2: Dukka Dukka Dukka Mohammed Ali And the Team America theme song: AMERICA! **** YEAH - HEADING AROUND - TO SAVE THE ****ING DAY YEAH! Simulated puppet sex, violence, dirty language make this a movie not really for kids. But, like an episode of South Park... it gives a message that is central to the story so that we all learn something... in the most ****ed up way possible. Check it out this upcoming Friday as it's really released. 10/10! (Sorry SC)
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 10, 2004 Report Posted October 10, 2004 quote:Originally posted by $iLk: 10/10! (Sorry SC) Sorry for what? People have different tastes (which explains why Southpark airs to begin with). I hated it.
Guest Hellbinder[CE] Posted October 10, 2004 Report Posted October 10, 2004 quote: Clarification - If you couldn't deal with the Feebles, you might want to pass on this as well. They may be puppets but... yeah. It's a very very very hard R. The rare movie that totaly restores my faith in cinema. At least for a week or two. I have to question why it apparently takes "hard R rated content" to make a movie good to you. Good Cinema is about Story telling not stuffing in as much Filth as you can get away with.
Scrivener Posted October 11, 2004 Author Report Posted October 11, 2004 That's an interesting conundrum, Hellbinder. In sooth, I hate censorship. I hate when people/films/etc are afraid of doing/saying/showing what they really mean because 'someone might be offended.' I hate the stifling of creative expression. It's not that it takes gratuitous content to make me happy, it's that so many films are short changed by holding back. Let me put it this way - if Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was presented to todays MPAA, it would get an R. I see too many movies suffer because of the anal retentive fascist morally superior MPAA dogs. The ratings system is a joke. It has become a tool by which those in authority can force their ideals on the general populace, without regard to freedom or free thought. I like a movie with balls, that's not afraid to wear its mind on its sleeve. Not all movies need to so stark - LOTR did a fantastic job, I think, of walking the fine line - but then there's movies like 'Chronicles of Riddick', 'AvP', 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre,' 'The Ring', and the upcomming 'The Grudge.' These are all movies that simply cannot accomplish what they need to under the restrictions of the current PG13 rating. Prohibiting anyone from entering an R or NC17 movie is, IMHO, not only utterly wrong, it's also unconstitutional. Again, I lay the burden of shielding ones children on the parents. The government should have never been given the power they have - to make those decisions for us - for our children. It's WRONG. A movie without any language, gore, sex, nudity, or offensive language can still earn a higher rating JUST BECAUSE OF THE EMOTIONAL RESPONSE IT ILLICITS. To horror movies, that is a DEATH SENTENCE. The simple act of being genuinely terrifying is an instant PG13/R... even if the actual content is as innocent as an episode of Spongebob Squarepants (A movie I am genuinely looking forward to BTW). Take a look at G rated movies from 20 years ago. 30 years. Compare them to the G movies of today. Do that across the board for each rating. Todays R rated movies cover yesteryear's PG13 AND R ratings. PG13 movies consist of yesteryear's PGs. PG movies consist of yesteryear's Gs. And todays Gs are gobbledygook toddler trash. And it never ceases to amaze me that any person/kid anywhere could walk into any book store, and buy American Psycho, IT, or the Bible. But God forbid you see the MOVIE. Not that - who knows how it might damage our moral fabric or perceptions of reality. No, it's not that I can only appreciate movies with hard-R ratings, I appreciate movies that aren't afraid to tell a story the way it's supposed to be told - with detail, reverence, and honesty.
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 11, 2004 Report Posted October 11, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Scrivener: That's an interesting conundrum, Hellbinder. LMAO!!! You think?
Guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Posted October 11, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: Sorry for what? People have different tastes (which explains why Southpark airs to begin with). I hated it. I couldn't stand South Park, my best friend loves it and never misses an episode, I won't waste life on such stupidity. I heartily agree.... I think that I will probably take a pass on this one as well.
Kevin Trotter Posted October 17, 2004 Report Posted October 17, 2004 Maybe you should see this one Jag, the creators are Bush supporters.
Andergum Posted October 24, 2004 Report Posted October 24, 2004 I just saw it and I loved it. I'm so ronrey......
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