LostInSpace Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Just because he's a democrat!? Why does Kerry sound like Bush? Kerry's Fundraising Shows Large Corporate Donations Senator John F. Kerry financial disclosure. Kerry Carries Water for Top Donor [ 06-30-2004, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: LostInSpace ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInSpace Posted June 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Just because he's a democrat!? Why does Kerry sound like Bush? Kerry's Fundraising Shows Large Corporate Donations Senator John F. Kerry financial disclosure. Kerry Carries Water for Top Donor [ 06-30-2004, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: LostInSpace ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 the question is HOW Kerry is different. (sub question): Is it because he represents the DEMOCRATIC party? In MY opinion. Kerry is LEVEL headed; opposed to BUSH's example of irrational, and reactionary responses. Kerry is a REAL war experienced VET, which has seen ENOUGH of it FIRST HAND, to KNOW the consequence of his action(regardless of the bush indoctinational propaghanda); opposed to BUSH's demonstration, that he has'nt the experience to give him a balanced view to what the REALITY of war entails. much less deal with OUR security, as a nation, within the international community. just a couple of examples presented. but the answer to your sub part question is as follows(and this should make things a little clearer for you) WHAT PARTY affiliation, Kerry has, IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NOT BUSH!!, as BUSH has already demonstrated his capability to DESTROY 50 years of work, in regard to INTERNATIONAL FORIEGN policies (in less than a year). edit: by the way, the first link is an of atrocious character, and of NO legitamate validity; while the following links, can dig no more dirt, than that which is required for ANY individual to run a campaign in this country. Your attack should be based against the ENTIRE electorial process, NOT KERRY.(just a note) [ 06-30-2004, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: street ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 the question is HOW Kerry is different. (sub question): Is it because he represents the DEMOCRATIC party? In MY opinion. Kerry is LEVEL headed; opposed to BUSH's example of irrational, and reactionary responses. Kerry is a REAL war experienced VET, which has seen ENOUGH of it FIRST HAND, to KNOW the consequence of his action(regardless of the bush indoctinational propaghanda); opposed to BUSH's demonstration, that he has'nt the experience to give him a balanced view to what the REALITY of war entails. much less deal with OUR security, as a nation, within the international community. just a couple of examples presented. but the answer to your sub part question is as follows(and this should make things a little clearer for you) WHAT PARTY affiliation, Kerry has, IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NOT BUSH!!, as BUSH has already demonstrated his capability to DESTROY 50 years of work, in regard to INTERNATIONAL FORIEGN policies (in less than a year). edit: by the way, the first link is an of atrocious character, and of NO legitamate validity; while the following links, can dig no more dirt, than that which is required for ANY individual to run a campaign in this country. Your attack should be based against the ENTIRE electorial process, NOT KERRY.(just a note) [ 06-30-2004, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: street ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Kerry is a toad of the Unions and the guilt ridden socialist rich in the country. Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. The Unions, especially the NEA and the AFLCIO are about 60% of Kerry's war chest at this point, and growing. All together the LARGEST money donors to Democrats have been Unions and the guilt ridden rich, 90% of whom have INHERITED their wealth. The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. THe number of people who have donated? THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. Who's the party of the corporations and unions? One guess, Who's the ACTUAL party of the people? One guess, The Democratic party is controlled by the Unions and left wing inheritors. The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? The economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. Well, the American people deserve what they get, if they actually vote this socialist in. ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations. Then again, most of you guys do not understand how tax policy has MAJOR effects on the Domestic economy. Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I think you're all a bunch of suicidal idiots, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Kerry is a toad of the Unions and the guilt ridden socialist rich in the country. Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. The Unions, especially the NEA and the AFLCIO are about 60% of Kerry's war chest at this point, and growing. All together the LARGEST money donors to Democrats have been Unions and the guilt ridden rich, 90% of whom have INHERITED their wealth. The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. THe number of people who have donated? THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. Who's the party of the corporations and unions? One guess, Who's the ACTUAL party of the people? One guess, The Democratic party is controlled by the Unions and left wing inheritors. The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? The economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. Well, the American people deserve what they get, if they actually vote this socialist in. ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations. Then again, most of you guys do not understand how tax policy has MAJOR effects on the Domestic economy. Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I think you're all a bunch of suicidal idiots, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takvah Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 And I think you're running around like the chicken with its head cut off. I voted for Bush but he needs to go, nice to see the fear setting in for you guys that fail to see the stupidity of this Administration. This guy looks like he's gone and I for one am not going to be sorry to see him go. One thing about Kerry that is different, he is going to get the message loud and clear that he better have the goods if he wants to wage war. People feel lied to and that's what is going to bite Bush in the ass. He lied and people know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takvah Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 And I think you're running around like the chicken with its head cut off. I voted for Bush but he needs to go, nice to see the fear setting in for you guys that fail to see the stupidity of this Administration. This guy looks like he's gone and I for one am not going to be sorry to see him go. One thing about Kerry that is different, he is going to get the message loud and clear that he better have the goods if he wants to wage war. People feel lied to and that's what is going to bite Bush in the ass. He lied and people know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchoo Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 <--- One "people" who doesn't feel lied to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchoo Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 <--- One "people" who doesn't feel lied to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Matchoo: <--- One "people" who doesn't feel lied to. EXACTLY, at least WE follow the news and don't go in for all this propaganda BS that "Bush Lied". I feel bad for these guys that allow themselves to be led around by the nose by the mainstream media. Bush lied, Bush lied, BS, Bush has NEVER lied about what we are doing. I have YET to see any of these guys show that Bush lied. The things they do bring up are ALL true, NOT lies at all. But it is easier to stick your head in the sand and repeat the mantra, "Bush lied" then to actually go out and find the information yourself. THAT PROVES that Bush has NOT lied about a thing. But, when you hate Bush, any bus going your way will work I guess. Reagan was hated in the same way as Bush is, so he must be doing something right. They said that Reagan would lose his reelection as well, and he won by a landslide, then again, that was BEFORE they put Mondale up against him, LOL. Oh, BTW, insiders are talking about a possible running mate for Kerry. None other then Hillary Clinton herself. Vice President Hillary Clinton, don't that sound nice? Yeah, vote for Kerry, go for it, If you are supposedly a TRUE conservative, then you will hold your nose and vote for Bush. Otherwise you are indeed what I think you are, Closet liberals who like to claim they are conservatives....LOL Just cut off that nose to spite your face. You one issue voters are just sad, sad, sad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Matchoo: <--- One "people" who doesn't feel lied to. EXACTLY, at least WE follow the news and don't go in for all this propaganda BS that "Bush Lied". I feel bad for these guys that allow themselves to be led around by the nose by the mainstream media. Bush lied, Bush lied, BS, Bush has NEVER lied about what we are doing. I have YET to see any of these guys show that Bush lied. The things they do bring up are ALL true, NOT lies at all. But it is easier to stick your head in the sand and repeat the mantra, "Bush lied" then to actually go out and find the information yourself. THAT PROVES that Bush has NOT lied about a thing. But, when you hate Bush, any bus going your way will work I guess. Reagan was hated in the same way as Bush is, so he must be doing something right. They said that Reagan would lose his reelection as well, and he won by a landslide, then again, that was BEFORE they put Mondale up against him, LOL. Oh, BTW, insiders are talking about a possible running mate for Kerry. None other then Hillary Clinton herself. Vice President Hillary Clinton, don't that sound nice? Yeah, vote for Kerry, go for it, If you are supposedly a TRUE conservative, then you will hold your nose and vote for Bush. Otherwise you are indeed what I think you are, Closet liberals who like to claim they are conservatives....LOL Just cut off that nose to spite your face. You one issue voters are just sad, sad, sad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote: Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. BIG DEAL! quote:The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. I wont reveal how much MINE(a REPUBLICAN)has been,(to KERRY, but it makes your figures look rather small quote: THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. As if THAT is what really MATTERS? quote:The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. As IF: "NO DEMOCRAT, EARNED their position within their community?". Your perceptions of REALITY are, INDEED, TWISTED!! quote: I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. If I had a choice, between SOCIALISM, and COMMUNISM; I bellieve, I would choose the FORMER. In all reality,for what is availiable today, I would rather see it swing back and forth. This would insure RADICALS,as yourself(or future BUSHs, NEVER get a firm foot-hold within this countries final outcome. quote:I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. You should be aware, being as your so "INTO" politics; Neither party has EVER had FULL control, to accomplish their plans, in finality. Where is your objective REASONING?..or is it completely BOW DOWN TO BUSH..Denominational DOGMA? quote: Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush has done NOTHING, but WAR, on THREE FRONTS. : One is the afghanistan attack on ALQUEDA(justified). AND TWO was to ATTACK IRAQ(NOT so justified). and THIRD was to use government power to DILUTE our constitutional RIGHTS(COMPLETELY OVER-THE-LINE, and inequivicaly CRIMINAL in nature). quote:Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? Your beating a DEAD horse here. You can WORSHIP this COMMUNIST promoting ADMINISTRATION, if you choose, AND try to push the idea, that Kerry will somehow do more damage than bush; but to be real honest...I dont think that would be POSSIBLE. quote: he economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. You really know a LOT about the ECONOMY, but I fear you misunderstand the ACTUAL concept, as to how it ALL interrelates. The brakes are being applied by THIS administration, as we speak(INTREST RATE INCREASE?...DUH!).AND will continue to do so, for the next 6 months. WHY is Bush doing this???? BECAUSE, BUSH KNOWS, he is going to loose the election, and they are going to try to REPEAT the Illusion, that DEMOCRATIC administration's cause recession. SORRY, it is ALWAYS with the REPUBLICAN administration, where things become a buyer's market(I LOVE BUYERS MARKET SITUATIONS ), RECESSION hits the little guy! SORRY dude...If you were in MY position, YOU would understand, WHERE AND WHEN and HOW ... REAL money is made. quote:ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The WAR is the MOST important issue(THIS is where the BUSH LIES, circumnavigated OUR check and balance system)... as ECONOMICS, is manipulated, in regard to political issue..REGARDLESS, of the party affiliation of the Administration within the white house. can you REALLY ignore the role, that CONGRESS plays in such issue?? or the HOUSE? quote: he economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. yeah, all those, piddly ass, minimum wage jobs!!! Look how many millions of GOOD PAYING JOBS, WITH BENEFITS, that HAS LEFT THIS COUNTRY" MORE BUSH DOCTRINE, PROPAGHANDA? quote:Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations.TAXES always seems to affect the the outlook of the working poor; when, in fact, the income tax, is really, a minor issue, when examining how economics REALLY works, within the international community. quote: Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote: Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. BIG DEAL! quote:The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. I wont reveal how much MINE(a REPUBLICAN)has been,(to KERRY, but it makes your figures look rather small quote: THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. As if THAT is what really MATTERS? quote:The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. As IF: "NO DEMOCRAT, EARNED their position within their community?". Your perceptions of REALITY are, INDEED, TWISTED!! quote: I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. If I had a choice, between SOCIALISM, and COMMUNISM; I bellieve, I would choose the FORMER. In all reality,for what is availiable today, I would rather see it swing back and forth. This would insure RADICALS,as yourself(or future BUSHs, NEVER get a firm foot-hold within this countries final outcome. quote:I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. You should be aware, being as your so "INTO" politics; Neither party has EVER had FULL control, to accomplish their plans, in finality. Where is your objective REASONING?..or is it completely BOW DOWN TO BUSH..Denominational DOGMA? quote: Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush has done NOTHING, but WAR, on THREE FRONTS. : One is the afghanistan attack on ALQUEDA(justified). AND TWO was to ATTACK IRAQ(NOT so justified). and THIRD was to use government power to DILUTE our constitutional RIGHTS(COMPLETELY OVER-THE-LINE, and inequivicaly CRIMINAL in nature). quote:Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? Your beating a DEAD horse here. You can WORSHIP this COMMUNIST promoting ADMINISTRATION, if you choose, AND try to push the idea, that Kerry will somehow do more damage than bush; but to be real honest...I dont think that would be POSSIBLE. quote: he economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. You really know a LOT about the ECONOMY, but I fear you misunderstand the ACTUAL concept, as to how it ALL interrelates. The brakes are being applied by THIS administration, as we speak(INTREST RATE INCREASE?...DUH!).AND will continue to do so, for the next 6 months. WHY is Bush doing this???? BECAUSE, BUSH KNOWS, he is going to loose the election, and they are going to try to REPEAT the Illusion, that DEMOCRATIC administration's cause recession. SORRY, it is ALWAYS with the REPUBLICAN administration, where things become a buyer's market(I LOVE BUYERS MARKET SITUATIONS ), RECESSION hits the little guy! SORRY dude...If you were in MY position, YOU would understand, WHERE AND WHEN and HOW ... REAL money is made. quote:ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The WAR is the MOST important issue(THIS is where the BUSH LIES, circumnavigated OUR check and balance system)... as ECONOMICS, is manipulated, in regard to political issue..REGARDLESS, of the party affiliation of the Administration within the white house. can you REALLY ignore the role, that CONGRESS plays in such issue?? or the HOUSE? quote: he economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. yeah, all those, piddly ass, minimum wage jobs!!! Look how many millions of GOOD PAYING JOBS, WITH BENEFITS, that HAS LEFT THIS COUNTRY" MORE BUSH DOCTRINE, PROPAGHANDA? quote:Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations.TAXES always seems to affect the the outlook of the working poor; when, in fact, the income tax, is really, a minor issue, when examining how economics REALLY works, within the international community. quote: Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Yeah, and you'll be voting for Vice President Clinton as well. You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. And I won't even go over the war and communism thing, because they are both silly in the extreme. Bush has done NOTHING to erode ANY of our rights. Name me 1 Right that Bush has eroded, and not just from your overactive imagination, but a REAL factual showing of YOUR rights that ANY of Bush's policies has eroded. HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it. I am a conservative, I am also a constitutionalist, if that makes me a right wing whacko, that's fine, because it puts me right in there with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison etc. Bush is using the military in our DEFENSE, he is taking out countries that were or are or will be a DIRECT threat to us. Instead of waiting for them to attack us and then responding, he is going on the offensive. I am sure glad you didn't run WWII, because we'd have lost.... We are just dooned to repeat history over and over and over again, because of this closeminded, right now generation that you are a part of. You don't think of the future and our future security, you think of the now, and how BAD things are NOW, and we have to fix this NOW, it goes on and on and on. Bush has learned from history, YOU obviously have NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Yeah, and you'll be voting for Vice President Clinton as well. You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. And I won't even go over the war and communism thing, because they are both silly in the extreme. Bush has done NOTHING to erode ANY of our rights. Name me 1 Right that Bush has eroded, and not just from your overactive imagination, but a REAL factual showing of YOUR rights that ANY of Bush's policies has eroded. HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it. I am a conservative, I am also a constitutionalist, if that makes me a right wing whacko, that's fine, because it puts me right in there with Thomas Jefferson, James Madison etc. Bush is using the military in our DEFENSE, he is taking out countries that were or are or will be a DIRECT threat to us. Instead of waiting for them to attack us and then responding, he is going on the offensive. I am sure glad you didn't run WWII, because we'd have lost.... We are just dooned to repeat history over and over and over again, because of this closeminded, right now generation that you are a part of. You don't think of the future and our future security, you think of the now, and how BAD things are NOW, and we have to fix this NOW, it goes on and on and on. Bush has learned from history, YOU obviously have NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamotto Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it.Ok, I'll bite why is it garbage and why does it lead to being uninformed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamotto Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it.Ok, I'll bite why is it garbage and why does it lead to being uninformed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street228 Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by street: quote:You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. Well, come on Street, I gave you an opportunity to give me an answer here. WHAT RIGHTS have YOU lost because of the Bush policies. Come on Street, all you have to do is come up with ONE RIGHT THAT YOU have lost. I'm waiting..... I'll be waiting an awfully long time too. Spout off garbage and then when cornered can't come up with anything to back you up. Looks pretty typical to me. Because EVERYTHING you have spouted has been either an outright lie, or just plain ridiculous. You been taking Michael Moore classes Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by street: quote:You, a Republican? Yeah, right.....LOL You are a card carrying liberal, bud. Well, come on Street, I gave you an opportunity to give me an answer here. WHAT RIGHTS have YOU lost because of the Bush policies. Come on Street, all you have to do is come up with ONE RIGHT THAT YOU have lost. I'm waiting..... I'll be waiting an awfully long time too. Spout off garbage and then when cornered can't come up with anything to back you up. Looks pretty typical to me. Because EVERYTHING you have spouted has been either an outright lie, or just plain ridiculous. You been taking Michael Moore classes Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by jamotto: quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it.Ok, I'll bite why is it garbage and why does it lead to being uninformed? Read the patriot act, and if you can't understand it, go to a REAL lawyer that can explain it to you. Basically it gives the CIA and the FBI the right to communicate and use CIA information against a defendant in a court of law in the US. It allows the FBI and Police to do a sneak and peek on suspected terrorists, something that they have been doing with drug dealers for 20 years. Those are the 2 MAJOR things that the patriot act does, it does NOTHING to anyones rights at all. You still have the SAME rights that you had before, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they are full of crap and fearmongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by jamotto: quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: HINT: There is NOT 1 right that has been eroded by this administration, and don't give me that patriot act garbage, that'll just show me how truly uninformed you are about it.Ok, I'll bite why is it garbage and why does it lead to being uninformed? Read the patriot act, and if you can't understand it, go to a REAL lawyer that can explain it to you. Basically it gives the CIA and the FBI the right to communicate and use CIA information against a defendant in a court of law in the US. It allows the FBI and Police to do a sneak and peek on suspected terrorists, something that they have been doing with drug dealers for 20 years. Those are the 2 MAJOR things that the patriot act does, it does NOTHING to anyones rights at all. You still have the SAME rights that you had before, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they are full of crap and fearmongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInSpace Posted July 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 quote:Originally posted by street: 1:Kerry is LEVEL headed; opposed to BUSH's example of irrational, and reactionary responses. 2:Kerry is a REAL war experienced VET, which has seen ENOUGH of it FIRST HAND, to KNOW the consequence of his action(regardless of the bush indoctinational propaghanda); 1: And, pray tell, what do you base this assumption on. Guide to Kerry's Voting Record (easy to read version) "New York Times By DAVID BROOKS Published: February 7, 2004 John Kerry has been railing against the special interests, and I don't think that's very nice because it implies that some people's interests are not so special. I like to think that everybody's interests are special in their own way. What's more, I think Kerry knows this, because if you look over his long career, you see that he loves all our interests, big and small, near or far. For example, a Chinese businesswoman named Liu Chaoying dreamed of having her company listed on a U.S. stock exchange. That's certainly a special dream. Maybe as a little girl she would come home from school, gather up her little dollies and tell them about her dream of ringing the bell to start the trading day, or of having little Lucite tombstones on her desk to mark her mergers and acquisitions. Maybe some of the other little girls in school told her she'd never have a company on a U.S. exchange, because you know how cruel little kids can be. But she had an interest, and to her it was the most specialest interest in the world. And she kept at it. And that cute little girl grew up to become a lieutenant colonel in China's People's Liberation Army, which is a very special army, even measured against the armies of other human rights-violating dictatorships. And what's more, she had a $300,000 bank account with funds supplied by the head of Chinese intelligence, which is certainly quite special indeed. And Liu came to America in search of her dream, for this is the nation of dreams. And she went to see a most special man named Johnny Chung. And in July 1996, according to Newsweek, Chung took Liu to see his special friend John Kerry about her dream, and Kerry recognized its specialness. So his aides faxed over a letter to the S.E.C. about the dream, and the very next day Liu and Chung had a private briefing with a senior S.E.C. official about making her special dream come true. And then a few weeks after that, Johnny Chung threw a fund-raiser for John Kerry in Beverly Hills. And John Kerry came away with $10,000 in contributions, and I like to think they were very special contributions. I like to think they were written on special designer checks, maybe with rainbows or kittens or Chinese long-range missile designs shaded on the back, because special dreams deserve special checks, and when a man as special as John Kerry takes up an interest, I think that makes it a special interest all by itself. Liu Chaoying's interest was not the only interest John Kerry took a special interest in. According to The Associated Press, Kerry took a special interest in the insurance giant American International Group. When Senator John McCain proposed legislation that would have ended a federal contracting loophole benefiting A.I.G., Kerry did not look away, as others might have done. A loophole may not seem like much to you and me, but to A.I.G. it was a very special loophole the cuddly kind of loophole you can hold under the blankets and tell your secrets to late at night. And according to The A.P., John Kerry preserved the little loophole. And by sheer coincidence, A.I.G. donated $30,000 to help start Kerry's presidential campaign. While sitting on the commerce and finance committees, John Kerry has seen many interests, and you could forgive him if he didn't think they were all special. But Kerry has raised more money from Washington lobbyists than any other senator. He's raised over $30 million over the past nine years, and you just ask the folks in the telecom industry if he doesn't make them feel special. You just ask David Paul, one of the big figures in the savings and loan scandal, if Kerry didn't make him feel special. You just ask the high-tech executive Bob Majumder how special Kerry made him feel, at least until Majumder was charged with 40 counts of conspiracy, witness tampering, fraud, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions. You just ask the law firms, the brokerage houses, the oil companies, the H.M.O.'s and the drug companies, which have donated tens of thousands of dollars to Kerry. Oh, he sometimes pretends that he doesn't care about our special interests. He puts on that callous populist facade. But deep down he cares. Maybe he cares too much. When he's out on the stump saying otherwise, he's just being a big old phony." 2:Cough.... Wednesday, Feb. 4, 2004 11:26 a.m. EST "Sen. John Kerry and his media boosters are hoping bogus allegations that President Bush went AWOL from the National Guard will catapult him into the White House - but during the 1992 presidential campaign, Kerry angrily denounced Bush's father for raising Bill Clinton's Vietnam draft record. In fact, back then, Kerry called those who wanted to make Vietnam service an issue "cowardly." "I'm here personally to express my anger, as a veteran," Kerry told National Public Radio two months before the 1992 election, "that a president who would stand before this nation in his inaugural address and promise to put Vietnam behind us is now breaking yet another promise and trying to use Vietnam and service in order to get himself re-elected." "That is not an act of leadership, that is an act of shame and cowardice," the Massachusetts Democrat railed. In words that could now apply to his own presidential campaign, Kerry complained to reporters a month later that White House charges suggesting Clinton had gone AWOL from the draft were an ugly smear. "It is a sad day when the president of the United States is willing to sully another man's reputation and challenge his patriotism merely to get elected," the current Democratic front-runner groused. Tuesday night, Kerry pulled a 180-degree about-face on the issue of using a candidate's Vietnam-era military record, telling Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," "There is an issue about what [bush's] service was - and I don't know the answers." Saying he would defend Bush's decision to enlist in the Guard, Kerry rattled off a long list of Vietnam-era options that lumped Guard service in with draft-dodging. "I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector [or] going into the National Guard," he told Sean Hannity. "Those are choices people make." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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