Ex-general: War planners did not expect insurgency

[Steve Schacher]

What's your point?

Where did I say anything about innocents not being killed? I said infrastructure, as in power, water, etc.

If your point is that no war is justified if one innocent is killed, then I say "grow up" and start living in the real world. I'm not condoning the killing of innocents, but when war becomes inevitable (and I think this one was inevitable), then innocents will be killed. As far as I'm concerned (like it or hate it), I'd rather have the fighting over there than over here.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by El Che:

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Originally posted by Jaguar:

The bunch of lying bastages, bunch of socialist Pigs as far as I am concerned.

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With the exception of myself, not all Socialists are pigs. Some of them are quite nice, in fact. And I'm not implying that Jaguar said that ALL Socialists are pigs. I'm sure he has met Socialists who are NOT pigs, but maybe he didn't know that they were Socialists. (You can usually tell us by the jaunty hats that we wear.) We also LOVE cheese. Some of us are proficient Karaoke singers. [/QB]

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Maybe Socialists are not all pigs, but ALL socialists lack critical thinking skills and do not understand history. Because if they did, they would NOT be socialists.

Socialists are people that have read Marx etc, capitalists are those that have read Marx, but actually understand it.

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Originally posted by El Che:

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Originally posted by Jaguar:

The bunch of lying bastages, bunch of socialist Pigs as far as I am concerned.

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With the exception of myself, not all Socialists are pigs. Some of them are quite nice, in fact. And I'm not implying that Jaguar said that ALL Socialists are pigs. I'm sure he has met Socialists who are NOT pigs, but maybe he didn't know that they were Socialists. (You can usually tell us by the jaunty hats that we wear.) We also LOVE cheese. Some of us are proficient Karaoke singers. [/QB]

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Maybe Socialists are not all pigs, but ALL socialists lack critical thinking skills and do not understand history. Because if they did, they would NOT be socialists.

Socialists are people that have read Marx etc, capitalists are those that have read Marx, but actually understand it.

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Originally posted by El Che:

I feel mech better now knowing that NO innocent Iraqi civilians were killed thanks in part to our "pinpoint" bombing. Thank God for "pinpoint" bombing. Infidels REJOICE!!

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War is Hell El Che, and innocents will die, that is the nature of war.

This is the REAL world El Che, not some socialist Utopia where everyone loves one another and shares everything equally.

Socialism is against Human nature, that is why it never works.

War is hell, and sometimes necassary to keep a much higher amount of casualties from coming to fruition. If hitler had been stood up to in the 30's, we would not have had to fight WWII, but Chamberlain was a peacenik, and did NOT understand history.

Those that are evil, will take advantage and do what they want until they are stopped. ANd if they are NOT stopped soon enough, millions may die.

I would rather stand up to evil while it is weak, and kill as few innocents as possible, then to wait until that evil has grown strong enough to kill millions.

History teaches GREAT lessons, time for you to do a little studying....

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Originally posted by El Che:

I feel mech better now knowing that NO innocent Iraqi civilians were killed thanks in part to our "pinpoint" bombing. Thank God for "pinpoint" bombing. Infidels REJOICE!!

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War is Hell El Che, and innocents will die, that is the nature of war.

This is the REAL world El Che, not some socialist Utopia where everyone loves one another and shares everything equally.

Socialism is against Human nature, that is why it never works.

War is hell, and sometimes necassary to keep a much higher amount of casualties from coming to fruition. If hitler had been stood up to in the 30's, we would not have had to fight WWII, but Chamberlain was a peacenik, and did NOT understand history.

Those that are evil, will take advantage and do what they want until they are stopped. ANd if they are NOT stopped soon enough, millions may die.

I would rather stand up to evil while it is weak, and kill as few innocents as possible, then to wait until that evil has grown strong enough to kill millions.

History teaches GREAT lessons, time for you to do a little studying....

[Kalshion]

You'll NEVER have a war without causalties

Innocent or not. Trust me, there will never be a war where no one will be killed

Even in a mechinized war (mech's and tanks, all computer controled) at some point or another a human life will be lost because of an error, hey war is hell, live with it.

Where mankind is, there will alway's be battles. It's an Endless Waltz

[Kalshion]

You'll NEVER have a war without causalties

Innocent or not. Trust me, there will never be a war where no one will be killed

Even in a mechinized war (mech's and tanks, all computer controled) at some point or another a human life will be lost because of an error, hey war is hell, live with it.

Where mankind is, there will alway's be battles. It's an Endless Waltz

[El Che]

If it was a justified war, all this would sit better with me. If it was a proven fact that Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks, then I would be better able to turn a blind eye to the killing machine that is war. But knowing the facts of the situation, I find it unacceptable.

[El Che]

If it was a justified war, all this would sit better with me. If it was a proven fact that Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks, then I would be better able to turn a blind eye to the killing machine that is war. But knowing the facts of the situation, I find it unacceptable.