Democracy FAILS in Russia!

[TARWMSRK]

I just saw this on Fox news but I cannot find any online news article about it (ok, I didnt look very hard). Putin proposed to restructure the Russian government so that he can appoint his own governors in Russia instead of the people choosing who should hold office. Im not sure how accurate that was would someone correct me if I am wrong?

[Guest]

You are absolutely correct.

But the fact of the matter is, that Democracy has NOT failed, it has had a setback.

The Problem?

You still have the generation that held power during the Soviet Union's reign, and they are used to having thier way or the highway.

Russia needs at least another 20 years to say that "it Failed".

It just hasn't really gotten off the ground yet.

60 years of socialism cannot be fized in a decade.

The press is freaking out and saying it failed, because they expect things to occur NOW, and the real world does NOT work that way.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by nomad:

I agree with most of Jag commentary. The problem I see however is that Putin has the bad habit of putting in place his ex-KGB friends at every possible significant position, either in the government apparatus either in the civil.

Only future will tell us if he's genuine in his attempt to reshape Russia's architecture, or if he merely actually uses the Beslan tragedy to seize even more power.

Personally, I am highly suspicious of Putin motive's, but I hope that I am wrong.

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Well thank you...LOL

And I also agree that Putin is suspect here, especially since he does bring in his ex KGB buddies.

Hopefully, when the Russian's get some new blood that is interested in politics, there will be some major political and criminal reform in Russia, but as long as Putin is in power, Yes, he's brought the country a long ways, but, I believe that he will continue to consolodate his position in the name of security. His old KGB ways come back to haunt him? Probably, but again, Democracy in Russia is not a failure, it is just having a little setback.

[Steve Schacher]

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The problem I see however is that Putin has the bad habit of putting in place his ex-KGB friends at every possible significant position...

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That's almost like what happened here in the USA. Right after Bill Clinton was elected, he fired all of the US Attorneys and replaced them with people loyal to him. Then he systematically politicized every department in the Executive branch, starting with putting Janet Reno in charge of Justice.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by Steve Schacher:

That's almost like what happened here in the USA. Right after Bill Clinton was elected, he fired all of the US Attorneys and replaced them with people loyal to him. Then he systematically politicized every department in the Executive branch, starting with putting Janet Reno in charge of Justice.

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Yes, and Bush still hasn't cleaned that garbage up yet.

That would have been one of the first things that I would have done, ANYONE that was put in place by Clinton would have been fired and replaced by people that were competent to do the job.

[Soback]

Putin is in a tough spot. Any president in Russia would be in a tough spot. If you don't listen to enterpenuers, economy gets worse, if you don't listen to the army, you'll have no military, if you don't listen to the mafia, you are dead and replaced. So you have to listen to all and compromise compromise compromise, it's like dancing on daggers 24/7

[Steve Schacher]

I guess there's only one thing left to say:

"Mr. Putin, build back this wall!"

[Guest]

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Originally posted by Steve Schacher:

I guess there's only one thing left to say:

"Mr. Putin, build back this wall!"

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At least around Chechnya.