Should the U.N. be Disbanded

[LostInSpace]

Current info on the Oil for food:

FreeRepublic: Oil For Food

Now I'm not done with digesting everything I've read there. So far, the biggest stand out is France. The U.S. had survived and flourished for 130+ years without it and I'd lay 100-1 odds that we'd all be better without it.

[John Prezioso]

My opinion? No doubt about it. Ditch it. Let the rest of the world have it and move the headquarters building to France.

[LostInSpace]

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Originally posted by Prez:

My opinion? No doubt about it. Ditch it. Let the rest of the world have it and move the headquarters building to France.

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I also meant the U.S. not even being a member of anything. Just a free wheeling entity like we use to be.

I'm also working on France and it's connection to the "bogus" Iraq and it's desire for nuclear material issue. From what I've read so far, it's not pretty (for France that is).

[John Prezioso]

As far as not being a member of anything, I am with you. Treaties that do not usurp the Constitution are okay in my book. Crap like the WTO, NAFTA, and Kyoto can take a walk.

[Guest]

Should the UN be disbanded?

YES,

and as far as Israel is concerned, Israel is trusted NOT to use nuclear weapons except in DEFENSE of itself, therefore we couldn't care less if Israel has nukes.

The other middle east countries are not so responsible. If they get a nuclear weapon, IT WILL BE USED for offensive purposes.

[John Prezioso]

Nomad

Your post sounded a little contentious, and I'm not sure why. What does it matter to you if the US is not a member?

First off, our "Neo-con government" as you so blithely label it gets no benefit whatsoever from the UN. In fact, it is a huge detriment to this country; it is like a weight tied around this country's neck. The reasons we are still stuck with it is because there is a powerful socialist/globalist element in the US that could care less about the UN's ill-affects on the US, and many more blissfully ignorant maroons who see the UN as "nice". I defy any American to come up with one benefit that we have gotten from being a member in the UN. I can list a dozen negatives. What have you got?

Secondly, the US does not speak on behalf on any nation except itself, nor should it. All the UN does is give terrorist rogue nations and their friends an equal vote with the US. That is ridiculous. Furthermore, it is a complete affront to ANY nations sovereignty to suggest that a multi-national body should have any say whatsoever to that nation's policy or laws. We have a constitution that eliminates the possibility of anything that is decided in the UN ever coming to pass in America any. To put it another way, we are not bound at all by anything the UN says. So what in Heaven's name is the point of being there?

Thirdly, the oil-for-food scandal is every bit as real and important as Able Danger. But neither get any press. Why? What's the common element? As if you had to ask. A very large part of the afforemnetioned socialist/global element is comprised of the MEDIA, who dictates what "truth" Americans will be spoon-fed each day. So, people who want news about story that might harm one of the media darlings like the DNC and the UN have to dig it up elsewhere. And you talk about objectivity. Your ridiclous 1 to 10 rating only exemplifies your anti-US bias, and makes no objective assertion of either issue.

And if you see no difference between North Korea and Iraq having nukes and Israel having nukes, I really feel quite sorry for you.

[Soback]

ROFL, UN, what a joke. As far as I am concerned, US should kick them off of our soil and withdraw from that joke of a group.

Resons, MANY, however, I can give you a great one. Iran is the head of human rights office in UN, however the countrys president made a speech for anihilating Israel, killing all the Jews, commiting genocide. Considering that UN has made no comments and there were no repricussions, and Iran is still the head of human rights office at UN, it speaks volumes about UN and the countries (mainly European) that support Iran (mind you, Bush is the one that Named Iran as one of the three axis of evil years back, and it showed itself 3 months ago when Iran called for genocide of Jews and destroying Israel). US should step up, and at least make an ultimatum of either Iran is out of UN, or UN gets off of US soil and US withdraws from UN.

[John Prezioso]

Not an all inclusive list by any means, but it's a small sample.

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/hhfm/page2.html

[John Prezioso]

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/fe...ml?id=110005658

Excerpt: "the U.N. is not the idealistic postwar organization of our collective Unicef and Unesco nostalgia, the old perpetual force for good that we once associated with hunger relief and peacekeeping. Its membership is instead rife with tyrannies, theocracies and Stalinist regimes. Many of them, like Algeria, Cuba, Iran, Vietnam and Zimbabwe , have served on the U.N.'s 53-member Commission on Human Rights. The Libyan lunocracy--infamous for its dirty war with Chad and cash bounties to mass murderers--chaired the 2003 session. For Mr. Bush to talk to such folk about the need to spread liberty means removing from power, or indeed jailing, many of the oppressors sitting in his audience..."