Guest Commander Hamblin Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Get out your history books, it's trivia time, on the Real Life Battlecruiser! Which Naval power in the early twentieth century invented the Battlecruiser? What was the principle behind the Battlecruiser that set it apart from other ships of the time? What was the name of the man who commanded the British 1st Battlecruiser Squadron? What was his flagship? After that ship was hit in the Battle of the Dogger Bank, which ship did he transfer his flag to? What was the name of the man who commanded the British 2nd Battlecruiser Squadron? When was the first British Battlecruiser completed? What the first British Battlecruiser's name? ------------------ Commander James Hamblin GCV - Galatea, Orion Starstation (CENTRIS) Wing Leader, Galatea Exploration Wing www.orion-hq.fsnet.co.uk
Eclipse Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 2. A faster battleship, but at the cost of armor. The new fast battleships of WWII finally made the class obsolete.the rest I don't know offhand, and don't have time to look up right now.------------------ Commodore Kyle Antilles ICV-Eclipse, Destiny Starstation (Nevuela) Commanding Officer, Destiny Spectre Fleet
GREG MILLER Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 1.) Britain2.) Speed & Heavy Firepower all in one ship8.) The H.M.S. Hood, I believeDon't really know the rest and #8 is a guess. ------------------ Commander Greg Miller GCV - Sark, Orion Starstation (CENTRIS) Fleet XO, Wing Leader, Tsunami Battle Group www.orion-hq.fsnet.co.uk'Here cometh the storm!'[This message has been edited by GREG MILLER (edited 09-30-2000).]
Guest tictoc Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 O.k, the name battlecruiser is not quite right, i believe you mean battleship, a cruiser is a seperate type of ship. anyway here,s some:1.britain (yeeeeeehhhaaaa ahem)2.larger long range guns, less armour, more speed.7. launched 19068. dreadnaughtregards tic ------------------ Cmdr. Tictoc ICV-Lexicon, Spectre HQ, (Antis) Spectre Fleetnils illigitimi carborundum
Guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 I think it was Germany. Brits loved their Battleships too much imo =) Same guns as a battleship, but lower armor and higher speed. Torpedo capability. Dunno. He mustve been a very happy man though! No clue. BTW, the HOOD was a Battleship wasn't it? No clue No clue No clue See previous answer
Guest tictoc Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Damm, i thought i could refresh my answer before someone else got in (small foot in big mouth hehe). In my eagerness to get some in, i have since found out indeed there is a ship type battlecruiser (shoot me at your own disgression). 'A type of warship with the displacement and armement of a battleship and the speed and protection of a cruiser' yours humbly tic------------------ Cmdr. Tictoc ICV-Lexicon, Spectre HQ, (Antis) Spectre Fleetnils illigitimi carborundum
Guest Commander Hamblin Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Anyone else wanna have a shot at this? Or should I post up the answers?In fact, I'll probably post up the answers sometime tommorow.
Guest aramike01 Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Wait for Gallion and Rattler to pop by. Those guys know their stuff.------------------ Vice Admiral Michael Kristophers ICV-Intrepid Spectre (Antis) Fleet Leader Spectre Fleet
Rattler Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Which Naval power in the early twentieth century invented the Battlecruiser? Answer: British Navy, more specifically, Admiral Sir John "Jackie" Fisher.What was the principle behind the Battlecruiser that set it apart from other ships of the time? Answer: These vessels would be similar in size and main armament to the dreadnoughts, but would be significantly faster. The extra speed would be attained by increased horsepower and reduced armour weight. Fisher's belief was that "speed [coupled with heavy firepower] was it's own best protection." Translated, this means that the battle cruiser should easily be able to out-run and out-gun any enemy cruiser (or smaller) size vessels. What was the name of the man who commanded the British 1st Battlecruiser Squadron? Answer: Rear Admiral David BeattyWhat was his flagship? Guess: HMS InvincibleAfter that ship was hit in the Battle of the Dogger Bank, which ship did he transfer his flag to? Don't Know!What was the name of the man who commanded the British 2nd Battlecruiser Squadron? Don't know.When was the first British Battlecruiser completed? Answer: March 1908What the first British Battlecruiser's name? Answer: HMS Invincible------------------ Insurgent One, Rattler ICV Necromancer, Spectre HQ (Antis) Commander-In-Chief, Insurgency Official Tester,Battlecruiser Series [email protected] ICQ 12894104
Guest Commander Hamblin Posted September 30, 2000 Report Posted September 30, 2000 Well, here are the answers that have been gotten so far:1) The British.2) Faster than your average Battleship, almost as heavily armed, but sacrificing armour for the extra speed.3) Admiral Sir David Beatty.7) 1908.Those are the correct answers that have been gotten so far. Let's see if anyone can answer the others, hmm? Interesting sidenote: Only just found this out a minute ago: quote:Brunel wrote a lengthy report on the screw propeller while the Great Britain was on the stocks. It was examined by Admiralty officials, who realised that the use of a propellor would eliminate one of the principle objections to steam powered warships, which was that a paddle wheel would get in the way of a ship's broadside gun arrangement. With advice from Brunel, the Admiralty authorised the building of a small screw-driven steam sloop, the Rattler...Because I suspect that "Uncle Rattler" here isn't THAT old, hehe, I'm assuming he chose the name Rattler because of that ship? [This message has been edited by Commander Hamblin (edited 09-30-2000).]
Rattler Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 Hey, I have to challenge number 8 as well, either that or British History is incorrect in it's archives. quote:In March 1908, the first battle cruiser, HMS Invincible, was commissioned. She and her sisters Indomitable and Inflexible, displaced @17,000 tons, could reach speeds in excess of 25 knots and featured an armament headed-up by eight 12" main guns. By the way, if there is a question of the accuracy of this information, go to http://www.hmshood.com/history/BCorigins.html and check it out.Nah, Rattler didn't choose his name from that new fangled propulsion platform. I'm surprised that the British would even have heard about Rattlers, let alone use one in a name. Don't think it would have had the same meaning, and they sure didn't make it far enough inland here in The Colonies to discover the true meaning of Rattler. They weren't here that long! ------------------ Insurgent One, Rattler ICV Necromancer, Spectre HQ (Antis) Commander-In-Chief, Insurgency Official Tester,Battlecruiser Series [email protected] ICQ 12894104
Guest Commander Hamblin Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 Well, either that site is wrong, or my history book is wrong. Here's the quote in my book: quote:The first ship of the new class was Inflexible, completed in 1908.From History of the Royal Navy by Robert Jackson.
Rattler Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 It could be a play on words here. In the US Navy, Commissioned means to be placed in active service, as in manned and getting ready for sea trials. Commissioned in the British Navy could simply mean that the funds were set aside and the contract issued to build her. For what it's worth though, Commissioned should mean placed on the active list. quote: The first of their kind, the HMS Invincible class ships were the beginning of First Sea Lord Sir Jackie Fisher's daunted "battle-cruisers", ships that had the armament of a battleship, but sacrificed the weight of heavy armor to give them the speed of a cruiser. Though plagued with problems when facing enemy battleships at Jutland, when used for their original design purpose as "cruiser killers", British battle-cruisers did the Royal Navy proud. The HMS Invincible and HMS Inflexible sank the German armored cruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisnau at the Battle of the Falkland Islands on Dec. 7, 1914. ------------------ Insurgent One, Rattler ICV Necromancer, Spectre HQ (Antis) Commander-In-Chief, Insurgency Official Tester,Battlecruiser Series [email protected] ICQ 12894104[This message has been edited by Rattler (edited 09-30-2000).]
Gallion Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 I ain't touching this. Not to well versed in limey naval history TTFN
Guest Commander Hamblin Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 Well, here are the answers:4) HMS Lion 5) HMS Prince of Wales 6) Admiral Warrender 7) 1908I left out number eight, since I'm now not sure if it was Invincible which came first, or if it was Inflexible.
Guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 Rattler.. the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (however you spell that) were WW2 heavy cruisers... thats one weird source you got there.Unless the Germans renamed 2 ships... which would be even weirder
Rattler Posted October 1, 2000 Report Posted October 1, 2000 Hey Tac! Help me out here! I only posted what I found. Stands to reason that they would build and rename two more ships since they lost the first two. We did it many times over. How many Lexingtons do you think we had? ------------------ Insurgent One, Rattler ICV Necromancer, Spectre HQ (Antis) Commander-In-Chief, Insurgency Official Tester,Battlecruiser Series [email protected] ICQ 12894104
Gallion Posted October 2, 2000 Report Posted October 2, 2000 Germans lost those two in WWI. When the Germans felt cocky again they named two of their modern criusers after the WWI cruisers ye mentioned.TTFNEd Note: They were sunk during WWI. Good site Ben [This message has been edited by Gallion (edited 10-02-2000).]
Guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Posted October 2, 2000 Now THAT's TRIVIA ! Any url's I could read up on those WW1 boats?
Ben Somerset Posted October 2, 2000 Report Posted October 2, 2000 A really great resource I've found for warships from pre-WWI days to the present is: http://www.warships1.com/ Hope it comes in handy. ------------------ Commander Benjamin Somerset GCV Swiftsure, Wraith HQ (Lyrius) Wing Leader - Wraith Fleet/SIN Wing
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