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Posted

Wow. Crap. I mean, the guy wasn't exactly on my high list of friends after his posts on BCM, but him being hauled off for uploading Counter-Strike to some crappy ISP's webserver? That's a little harsh.

And to think I use Icrontic.com for help with my AbitKT7-RAID... (well, not exactly, I more specifically go here for that, one of the hosted sites). Heh, gotta love how they threw in that description of Counter-Strike though.. probably has all those soccer moms going "It's for his own good! Best to do it now before he shoots someone!"

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Commodore. Parias

ICV-Galatae, Sanctuary Storage Facility (Sygan)

Balor Fleet

External Tester

Battlecruiser Millenium

ICQ 1293359

Staff member at HardNews

Posted

Why, I'm so offended, how dare the FBI do such a thing, NOT!!!

I HOPE THE LITTLE BASTAGE FRIES!!!!

Malicious and STUPID!!!

What goes around comes around and boy is he getting his, I guarantee he will be spouting righteous indignations until the day he goes to prison.

This is probably his major problem, it wasn't enough to do it, he had to tell everyone about what and how he did it!! This is TERMINALLY STUPID, as well as immature, and I hope the judge fines him, jails him, and then slaps a restraining order as far as computer use is concerned.

Keep us informed with what happens to the little prick SC, it won't be in my newspapers, but I sure would like to see what happens.

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CMDR Jaguar

GCV Armageddon, Starpath (Mars)

Prime Fleet, Delta Wing

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Guest dnoyeB!
Posted

We had a word for the sistas who gave up a little too much "bandwidth" back in the day.

"Blew out"

I suppose you could say thats what he did to netally's servers smile.gif

On the real though, the government is just outta hand with that siezure. Being a jerk does not warrant spending my TAX DOLLARS on pointless prosecution that serves to make the nation no better.

Where im from the cops use this drug law that lets they search your ride if they think you look like you use or sell drugs. Of course its up to them to decide what that look is. Seems like this is more hysteria which allows the government to get away with rape of a minor.

He had a 5MB limit. They never said he HACKED their computers in order to get 500MB on them. If they let him put it there, its their own dumb fault.

I think they are just grabbing some publicity where they see the chance. I would counter sue.

Yea, and that counter strike description did seem kind of "sensational."

[This message has been edited by dnoyeB! (edited 03-26-2001).]

Posted

lol, sometimes I wish SC, I've been hacked by guys like this one, and to see him get slammed, does my heart good!!! cwm11.gif

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CMDR Jaguar

GCV Armageddon, Starpath (Mars)

Prime Fleet, Delta Wing

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Posted

LOL, now that is funny biggrin.gif

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Commodore Kyle Antilles

ICV-Eclipse, Destiny Starstation (Nevuela)

Commanding Officer, Destiny

Spectre Fleet

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

"You can only love or hate something you truly understand"

Posted

According to those links he brought down a network by using his ISP as a mirror for a very popular game. They had so many hits of such a large file it choked the server(s). That's "Denial of Service" and it's a crime. Then he allegedly wrote an article explaining what he did and how others could do it. That shows malicious intent or at the very least an awareness of what he was doing. He didn't help his case with that temper. We saw it here with his other post on BCM.

No, being "hauled off" was not harsh. You do a crime you get "hauled off".

dnoyeB!;

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Where im from the cops use this drug law that lets they search your ride if they think you look like you use or sell drugs.

That's profiling in my mind. There have been a lot of news stories about racial profiling down here lately.

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He had a 5MB limit. They never said he HACKED their computers in order to get 500MB on them. If they let him put it there, its their own dumb fault.

Hacking in would have been another charge. Regardless, I'm sure somewhere in his ISP agreement (contract) there was a stated limit. AOL has a 2mb limit per screenname. That's why my fleet site is on the Chavik name. I also believe AOL has measures to prevent exceeding that limit but I'm sure you could on ocassion and would get warned to remove the excess. Whether they had limits or not it's still in the contract and your responsibility not to break that contract.

I think it was way out of line and he is rightfully being charged with a crime.

Go read the now 4 page thread over at that forum from one of the above links.

Posted

I knew this kid was stupid, but man he is from the shallow end of the gene pool for sure. I can't believe after being arrested and charged, that he would actually spout off on his own forum.

Where the hell is this kids lawyer, he needs protection from himself!!!!

I am just stunned, totally stunned. Ah, the stupidity of youth, you think you know everything, but YOU DON'T KNOW SQUAT!!! Trust me on this!!!

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CMDR Jaguar

GCV Armageddon, Starpath (Mars)

Prime Fleet, Delta Wing

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Posted

It would be interesting to see what else was on his computer. Seems like he thinks it's his right to screw whomever he wants. Hope he gets a little jail time to be on the receiving end....

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Cmdr Amadeus

GCV-Zarathustra, GENESIS (Moon)

Prime Fleet, Gamma Wing

Posted

Serves him right!!!

It figures, little delinquents like this that think they rule the world, and have NO respect for authority. Yea, well if you ask me, authority showed him, who is in charge.

And people on that board don't think this is right. "It was just a joke!", they say. Realistic and serious people today don't have time nor the patients for "just a joke."

Trust me, appropriate action was taken. Some of todays youth really need a good swift kick in the rear. They really need to wake up and look around because life is NO joke.

'nuff said!

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Commander Greg Miller

GCV - Sark, Orion Starstation (CENTRIS)

Fleet XO, Wing Leader, Tsunami Battle Group

www.orionfleet.com

'Here cometh the storm!'

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millenium

[This message has been edited by GREG MILLER (edited 03-26-2001).]

Posted

Charles is right. Denial of service attacks are being taken very seriously by corporate America these days. It is part of a larger issue that we are now calling Information Protection. My company has made it the number one I/T priority.

The other problem with this kid is that he is a kid. He's still at that age where he doesn't think that what he does has consequences, or that if he "feels" that he didn't do something wrong (or that the laws are stupid), then he shouldn't be held liable for his actions. I love it when they start tossing out free speech arguments and call for the ACLU.

I wonder how many Napster files he downloaded.

Guest Remo Williams
Posted

LOL!! serves the little punk right after what he pulled.

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Doesn't stuff like that carry the death penalty? Just asking!!

HEHE! Now that would be a service to the gene pool! cwm4.gif

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Cmdr. Remo Williams

GCV-Lexington, Genisis (MOON)

Prime Fleet, Gamma Wing, 1st Squadron

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Posted

Hehe...things like this are examples of Natural Selection at work =P

~Pio

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Commander Pioneer

ICV-Striker, Spectre (Antis)

Spectre Fleet

"If you're thinking about losing, you're already dead."

Posted

This is good news. Some people think that having a Web site gives them some kind of "power".

Now he'll see what the feds have to say about it.

Posted

I'm not good with making judgments or anything but don't you guys think you're being a little harsh? I mean have you met the guy in person before?

Come on, don't judge him by a posting on the net...If you really want to know if he deserves such harsh treatment why don't you call him up and ask him about the whole story and not just the one the media has to say eh?

Shame on you!

P.S. Sorry I'm in a bit of a media bad for you mood and well I'm an artsie as always...And >sniff< I'm in that monthly thing that makes me wish I was a man 'cause I get so >snuffle< EMOTIONAL! PEACE MAN! PEACE! cwm14.gif BWAHHHHH....

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Commander Akuma Minako

GCV - Tenchi, Orion Starstation (CENTRIS)

Deterrence Battle Group

www.orion-hq.fsnet.co.uk

Guest Remo Williams
Posted

Akuma this guy is a real jerk. He was part of the BCM beta at one time and couldn't even operate his system well enough to load the game.

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Come on, don't judge him by a posting on the net

I'm not I'm still pissed about the bogus review he did at apu's if you want to call it a review. He also changed our posts on his forum when we went there and tryed to stick up for our game. He even went as far as calling SC names on ICQ. No he deserves everything the feds throw at him.

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And >sniff< I'm in that monthly thing that makes me wish I was a man 'cause I get so >snuffle< EMOTIONAL! PEACE MAN! PEACE!

ummm runs and hides to avoid any possible flying objects cwm4.gif

Best Regards

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Cmdr. Remo Williams

GCV-Lexington, Genisis (MOON)

Prime Fleet, Gamma Wing, 1st Squadron

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

[This message has been edited by Remo Williams (edited 03-27-2001).]

Posted

Well, he's being judged by his actions. I mean, look at his history: he threatened Derek with a posting on his site (whoop), he THEN causes intentional disruption to an ISP...

I dunno, I think he should be punished. Honestly, I think it would be a shame if he had to do anything with jail time - too young for that. But, I think he needs to be banned from his computers for awhile on top of a good ass-whipping from his mother.

MHO though.

Posted

Well, I am not experiencing any girl thing that makes me emotional. So I say Fry the little pig!

I am extremely tired of these teenagers, who believe they are above the law and act without considering the consequences.

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Captain Echo

ICV Persephone, New America Starstation (Midae)

Eversor Fleet

ICQ# 31736776

Posted

Now that's my kind of woman!!! ALL RIGHT ECHO!!! hurrah!!!

I bet you have kids!!! lol

I feel the same way, and I have kids, so 2+2!!!lol

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CMDR Jaguar

GCV Armageddon, Starpath (Mars)

Prime Fleet, Delta Wing

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Posted

Echo, I TOTALLY agree!

Parents have GOT to teach their kids that there are consequences for their actions...both good and bad, and they had better start when they are young!

Not that it always works as kids do have their own personality, will, and thoughts.

Hammer him hard enough now, and MAYBE he'll learn....

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Commodore Wold

ICV-Drakr, Spectre HQ (Antis)

Commanding Officer, Spectre HQ

Spectre Fleet

ICQ 4669033

"You can only love or hate something you truly understand"

External Beta Tester

Battlecruiser Millennium

Posted

Aramike, humbly begging your pardon sir, but "a good ass-whipping from his mother?" I think I've seen his mother listed as co-defendant, or at least mentioned more than once along his bleak timeline so far. At what point does it not behoove the state to give HER a good ass-whipping instead? (Okay, we socialisty democraty types call it "rehabilitation," whatever. Repair her. Otherwise, you've given her the right to carry around a loaded weapon called a Child. We're talking Big Pipe Bomb.)

Posted

to quote my favourite female taunt of all times:

SQUEAL BOY! SQUEAL! biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

I understand what you're saying akuma, yet if you take out anything he said and set it apart from what he did.... its still very bad, and quite illegal.

"The world is tired of words, it wants examples!" -Shoghi Effendi

I personally dont think they should jail or fine the family for his actions, he is still a kid after all. I'd say a good, 2 year long community service in after-school and weekends would be more than enough to teach him a lesson.

Posted

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Aramike, humbly begging your pardon sir, but "a good ass-whipping from his mother?"

Yep. Called discipline.

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I think I've seen his mother listed as co-defendant, or at least mentioned more than once along his bleak timeline so far.

Well, considering that the details are sealed as of yet (his name, etc), I'm not sure I buy that. However, if his mother *IS* defending his actions, then SHE deserves JAIL TIME - to ALLOW your children to commit a felony is the epitome of irresponsible.

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At what point does it not behoove the state to give HER a good ass-whipping instead?

The state is not her parent. She does deserve punishment if she ALLOWS these actions to continue when they are *obviously* illegal.

Posted

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...I think it would be a shame if he had to do anything with jail time - too young for that....

What's this? Is this closet-liberalism leaking from aramike? wink.gif

My four-bits minus two - do the crime, do the time. No if, ands, or butts. throw the book at the littl' turd and throw the key away I say eek.gif

TTFN

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Rear Admiral Gallion

ICV-Graf Spee, Spectre (Antis)

Executive Officer, Spectre Fleet

"You can only love or hate something you truly understand."

Official Tester, Battlecruiser Series

Leader, Team 1

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