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  1. I just got this via email. All I can say is OUCH! quote: Bring it on, John Oliver North August 27, 2004 "Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'" -- Sen. John Kerry Dear John, As usual, you have it wrong. You don't have a beef with President George Bush about your war record. He's been exceedingly generous about your military service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who served honorably in a war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the president, made the centerpiece of this campaign. I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your medals or how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I could stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might agree with me, though I've never heard you say it, that the officers always got more medals than they earned and the youngsters we led never got as many medals as they deserved. This really isn't about how early you came home from that war, either, John. There have always been guys in every war who want to go home. There are also lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam, who did a full 13 months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of young Americans today in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return to war because, as one of them told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, "the job isn't finished." Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Heck John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say so. Your campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren't in Cambodia that night and that Richard Nixon wasn't really president when you thought he was. Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could have all that bogus stuff "seared" into your memory -- especially since you want to have your finger on our nation's nuclear trigger. But that's not really the problem, either. The trouble you're having, John, isn't about your medals or coming home early or getting lost -- or even Richard Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home, John. When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War and wrote "The New Soldier," which denounced those of us who served -- and were still serving -- on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of all, John, you then accused me -- and all of us who served in Vietnam -- of committing terrible crimes and atrocities. On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that you had knowledge that American troops "had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam." And you admitted on television that "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed." And for good measure you stated, "(America is) more guilty than any other body, of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions ... the torture of prisoners, the killing of prisoners." Your "antiwar" statements and activities were painful for those of us carrying the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives. And for those who were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who suffered the most from what you said and did were the hundreds of American prisoners of war being held by Hanoi. Here's what some of them endured because of you, John: Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese custody when he was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says that for his captors, your statements "were proof I deserved to be punished." He wasn't released until March 14, 1973. Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese custody for 2,284 days, says his captors "repeated incessantly" your one-liner about being "the last man to die" for a lost cause. Cordier was released March 4, 1973. Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations "were as demoralizing as solitary (confinement) ... and a prime reason the war dragged on." He remained in North Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973. John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked about your claim that you and others in Vietnam committed "atrocities," instead of standing by your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words "were a bit over the top." Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean you are a war criminal? You can't have this one both ways, John. Either way, you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief. One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: "I would like to say something ... to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families." Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?
  2. I heard about this spoof of the old PacMan game on the radio today and just had to find it. Too funny! http://www.liquidgeneration.com/games/olsens_crackman.asp [ 08-26-2004, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: Andergum ]
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    Doom 3 - The Official Thread

    quote: Originally posted by Takvah: They just put some pimpin rims on that old El Dorado known as Doom and threw a DVD player in the back seat. Hehe exactly!!! Its nothing new, but rather something old done extremely well. BTW go to www.martianbuddy.com to get a locker code for the packages they deliver.
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    Doom 3 - The Official Thread

    I've been playing for a couple of days now. The game is excellent!!! The rooms and levels are so well done and detailed that you feel like you are in a base not just in a box like many other FPS's make you feel. Lighting is superb, sound is very well done and the overall ambience and mood is incredible. Everything is very well done and very polished. Monsters, weapons, effects everything is top notch. 10/10 from me. I highly reccomend playing in a dark room with the surround sound system cranked. I can't count the number of times its made me jump out of my chair in the last couple days. Oh, and I'll have to update my profile to reflect the 6800 Gt I picked up .
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    Night at the Movies - T3

    Just got back from T3. Totally awesome movie. Great car/truck/terminator chase scenes and quite a bit of humor. It had me going from hanging on to the edge of my seat to laughing and back constantly. Best Terminator so far IMO.
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    Matinee at the movies - Spiderman2

    I saw Spidey 2 last week. Overall I liked it but the first 45 minutes did drag on a bit. Action scenes were great but not enough of them IMO. I really don't like what they did with the the whole web thing. In the comics Pete is a brilliant scientist kid who invents web shooters and the fun is that from time to time he runs out of juice. Now he runs out of webs because of some kind of "reluctant superhero impotence"?? BAH!!! 8/10. Good movie but I liked I Robot better.
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    Night at the movies - I, Robot

    Well I just watched it, and I think it was the best movie of the year so far, bar none. Really good story, great effects and simply the best portrayal of the future I have ever seen. The blending of old and new tech. was extremely well done. Being a Chicagoan I especially liked the new Chicago skyline. The scene with the huge Robot trucks on the freeway was so cool!! 10/10 from me. Simply awesome.
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    Suggestions for an aspiring insurgent ?

    Welcome to Eversor DeOsprey, good to have you aboard!!!
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    Entire Insurgent Fleet Roll Call

    I'm still lurking about. I've been very busy lately but I'll try to be more active. BTW what MP server are you all playing on???
  10. Here's a pretty cool game. Check it out!! http://file.sugarqube.com/Cards/jblo_TheWo...swf?PL=L400x300
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    The worm game...

    quote: Originally posted by Blerm: You bastard. hehehe
  12. Do you mean the Rearend Jessie Jackass????
  13. If Hillary becomes president I'm leaving. Good god can you imagine the parties Bill will holding in the White Office when he has no responsibilities to worry about. The pres after him will have to have the entire place fumigated and sterilized. Unless of course Hillary dumps him and marrys her girlfriend. Seriously though, if she becomes pres I fear for the entire world.
  14. Heh, Id is now talking about re-doing Quake II with their new Doom 3 graphics engine. Come on guys, make something NEW!!!!
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    Unreal Tournament 2004

    I love Onslaught!!! To be honest I haven't played CTF or DM much with UT2004. I have played these games so many times over the years that I'm pretty much bored with them. Even new levels don't interest me that much, but Onslaught rules!!! I haven't had this much fun gaming online in years!!!
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    I really like the intro. Its almost movie quality in many ways and the in game visuals are stunning to say the least. The best I've seen in a first person shooter so far. The AI needs quite a bit of work but it looks to be a fun romp on a beautifuly rendered island. If only I could stop playing UT2004 -Onslaught.
  17. quote: Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: When in doubt, vote Nader!!! Heh, I'm actually considering voting for Gary Nolan the Libertarian candidate. I find I'm not really a Republican or a Democrat and that I side with either or neither on many many issues. Right now I'm sick of how Bush is doing things and I don't see how Kerry will do any better. If what Clark is saying in his book is true, then what Bush has done in linking Al Queda's activities to Saddam without verifiable proof and then deceiving the American public to believe the same, is far more impeachable than Clinton lying about getting BJ's in the oral oops I mean oval office. I'm either voting libertarian or for which ever candidate will get us back to gridlock. At least under gridlock nothing got done which is preferable to the politicians getting anything done.
  18. I just received this via email and I have to admit that it got me chuckling. --------------------------------------------- Subject: Straight from Leviticus-An Analysis from Homer Simpson Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality, who dispenses advice to people who call in to her Radio show. On her radio show recently, she said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination, according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, penned by a US resident, which was posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as thought-provoking. ****************************************** Dear Dr. Laura: Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your adoring fan, -- Homer Simpson
  19. The edge of a salty sea More amazing discoveries from the Mars rovers.
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    *FREE* Game speech recognition programs

    Unreal2004 has built in speech recognition for ordering around the bots. Works really well too! Played onslaught for 4 hours last night. Awesome game!!!
  21. LOL!! Me too! I like Ann.
  22. quote: Originally posted by $iLk: Ya beat me to it Jag - And Andergum even though I know the full definition hasn't been attacked in this thread I want to make a few points: quote:.or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; meaning that now law can be created to either establish a religion nor preventing anyone who already has a belief from expressing it. There is no "separation of church and state" in the meaning that libs use it. John Ashcroft (though he's an idiot *looks over shoulder for Big Brother*) was attacked because of his religious ideals during his nomination and it was said that he couldn't effectively work in government since he was religious... totally ignoring: quote: that "no religious test shall ever be required, as a" qualification to any office or public trust, under the "United States."So whether an atheist or a Christian or a Muslim it doesn't really matter. There is no separation other than the fact that your religious views cannot be questioned. All that by itself probably lends credence to the argument that gay marriage as a matter of law shouldn't be questioned - except when taking into account the following. U.S. Code: TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > Sec. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion416. Defines the term husband and wife and marriage several times There are at least 100 other sections of the U.S. code which define husband, wife, widow, widower, etc. in relation to marriage. The above get's you started. So as a matter of established law - it's perfectly legal to prevent gay marriage - considering that it's only one court's ruling (4-3) that preventing it is unconstitutional. Look, I don't condone gay marriage at all, but watch out, they have just begun to re-write things like this. I think it is more likely that any ammendment concerning gay marriage will be giving that right to gays not preventing them from marrying. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" Can and has been interpreted that no laws can be made that respect the wishes or beliefs of an organized religion.
  23. quote: Originally posted by Jaguar: Sorry Andergum, but that HAS NOTHING to do with a separation of Church and state. All it says is the governement cannot create and official state religion, that's it, that's all. The separation of Church and state was MADE up by activist judges. The clause NEVER existed, does NOT exist, and was never intended by the founding fathers to exist. The separation fo church and state is a legal fiction made up by the courts... [/QB] link Not my doing, but if they can't get school prayer passed what chance do you think this would have.
  24. quote: Originally posted by $iLk: quote:The constitution calls for the seperation of church and stateWhere? Bill of Rights Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
  25. quote: Originally posted by echo: of marriage and I will be considered to be committing audultery by the Catholic Church unless I pay them 700.00, or leave, i chose the later. ~He who is without sin cast the first stone~ I cannot comment on this subject as I myself have abused the sacrementNot sure if I quoted that right or not. Really? Wow, that's disturbing that the Church's forgiveness has a monetary price. On the subject of gay marriage. Personally I don't have a problem with gays doing what ever they want to to. I am not gay and not headed that way, but what ever floats your boat as long as it doesn't harm others is OK with me. I also think Bush is treading dangerous waters when he starts calling for a constitutional ammendment to ban same sex marriages and he may get the opposite of what he wants. We may end up with an ammendment guaranteeing people the right to marry who ever they want regardless of race, creed, color or sexual preference. The constitution calls for the seperation of church and state and this proposed ammendment by Bush seems to me to be solely based on religious beliefs of the moral majority which is in direct defiance. Also, ammendments usually protect the rights of the people not take them away. I haven't really considered all the monetary aspects of what this might do... medical insurance, taxes, welfare etc etc etc. One thing for sure is that the lawyers are going to clean up sorting this all out. cha-ching $$$