Takvah

And again I am still in the position of having to prove that you aren't a liar. PUT THE THING IN AN INTERNET FORMAT AND POST IT HERE. Hell I will provide you free space on my webserver just so that you can promote it and show the world that the tape was doctored. All you did was tell me how to prove you're a liar, I told you to prove to me that you aren't. I'm going to get in trouble? For what? Derek has my email address, hell I've had some nice conversations with Derek, if I'm pissing him off I don't think he's going to have a problem telling me. When he does I'll stop after all I post here at his pleasure, I don't have any delusions to the contrary. I suppose at this point I'm just beating a dead horse but again you did nothing to prove YOUR assertion. I guess the logic is too linear for you to process. *shrugs*

Yeah I have the standard 6800 and I love it so the GT must be sweet! I got my card through eVGA so I might upgrade it (they give you 90 days to upgrade) but the performance I'm getting with Doom is rock solid even with the 128 card. I just have a tough time convincing myself that $500 for a card is justifiable heheh...

Uhrmmm ok Jaguar. I know you pull your information out of some orifice, so you're right I surely don't want to think on it too long *snickers* Peace

Uhrmmm ok Jaguar. I know you pull your information out of some orifice, so you're right I surely don't want to think on it too long *snickers* Peace

Come on personal threats of physical harm are stupid. Let's move beyond that. I really don't want to hear about the arsenal Jaguar has because I've seen pictures and the guy is obviously not going toe to toe with anybody. No offense man you're just tiny. It's just stupid to go there fellas, so let's move it along. Keep it elevated gentlemen.

Come on personal threats of physical harm are stupid. Let's move beyond that. I really don't want to hear about the arsenal Jaguar has because I've seen pictures and the guy is obviously not going toe to toe with anybody. No offense man you're just tiny. It's just stupid to go there fellas, so let's move it along. Keep it elevated gentlemen.

Soback if you don't want to bother to engage in critical thought and debate that's your business. As for you Jaguar, when your buddies at the right wing propaganda forum get back with the information that vindicates Bush let me know. Until then the facts remain, he was given favorable treatment at the expense of many other men in Texas who were in line for the Guard well before he was. I don't say Democrats are any less repugnant in making sure their worthless offspring are sheltered, it is epidemic in our society. We're just comparing the service records here and Bush doesn't seem to have Kerry beat there. Now I'll go onto the next aspect of Bush's life... and you can get your crack staff working on that as well... *snickers*

Soback if you don't want to bother to engage in critical thought and debate that's your business. As for you Jaguar, when your buddies at the right wing propaganda forum get back with the information that vindicates Bush let me know. Until then the facts remain, he was given favorable treatment at the expense of many other men in Texas who were in line for the Guard well before he was. I don't say Democrats are any less repugnant in making sure their worthless offspring are sheltered, it is epidemic in our society. We're just comparing the service records here and Bush doesn't seem to have Kerry beat there. Now I'll go onto the next aspect of Bush's life... and you can get your crack staff working on that as well... *snickers*

Kalshion you're right you don't have to prove anything to me. So I will just continue to be "scared" and call you a LIAR. When you can prove your assertions of fraud, I will be happy to retract my labeling of you as... a LIAR. If you are going to say that you ran a test and state that you PROVED a fact then you need to show the world... or you will be considered a LIAR. Did I use the word LIAR enough? Conservatives want to live THEIR (notice the correct use of the word) lives. Well I agree with that, most conservatives that are TRUE conservatives want to allow for people to live their lives. HOWEVER, there is a very crazed element in our party that is infiltrating all areas of our life. Our President is not standing against this kind of behavior and his Justice Dept., is in fact being very vigorous in its efforts to spy on all of us. The longer we remain afraid the easier it is for them to convince us all that what they do is for our own good. I find this frightening. Every day our freedoms are being limited, our Constitutional protections are being subverted and you guys ignore it. When will it become an issue for you? What will they target in your life that will finally make you wake up? I really wish you guys would just LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING in an effort to protect us. Conservatives respected religion they didn't make it the platform. Now religious zealots seem to be the norm and we have a President that says, "God wants me to be President." Now I ask you, this President is going whack jack with the pills and storming out of press conferences when asked about Ken Lay. What kind of hell are we in for if Kerry wins? What will those 60 days be like when Bush is sitting in the Oval Office thinking GOD has forsaken him. *shivers* If a Democrat said some of these things we'd be looking to lock him up. I believe in God. However, I do not believe that most Christians in this Administration represent the teachings of Christ. Whatever these guys are, Christian isn't what I would call them. Soback you talk about people being given money for having kids. So I want to take this logic forward ok? OK, so we have a nation that does not support abortion but allows for it. Nobody that is pro-choice is pro baby killing, that is just absurd. They just say that if a woman wants to do this, they believe she has a right. NOW, on the other side of the argument you have this President equating it with murder. OK so now abortion is made illegal and we have unwanted children being born. I'm sorry but I see enough resentment such as you have exhibited, in that if you have these babies you damn well better take care of them YOURSELF. Now, how the hell are you going to take care of all of these unwanted kids that won't be reared with love or anything that you and I might take for granted? Where is the logic in MAKING women that don't want children have them? Meanwhile in Africa there are WAY TOO MANY babies being born and we don't want to send the money over there to support them but we OPPOSE giving these people birth control. I'm sorry the logic is JUST SO DAMN FLAWED. They just shouldn't have sex? Wow now that's reasonable and feasible isn't it? Yes, Conservatives want to be free. Real Conservatives want to make their own choices in life. That includes their religious beliefs, whether or not they are going to bring a baby into this world, what radio personalities they listen to, etc. etc. Real Conservatives believe in religion as well as science and want stem cell research. Republicans have called this baby farming. THIS ISN'T BABY FARMING THIS IS CELL REPRODUCTION IN A LABORATORY! Disease could be wiped out but somehow God doesn't want that? So why in the hell is this Administration sticking its nose into all of these things? There is nothing emotional about what I am saying, this is the world we are living in right now. Conservative now has to equal religious zealot and if it wasn't such a sore subject and people weren't afraid to call a spade a spade that's what conservatism would be shown to have been perverted into by this group. I suppose the conservatism you speak of Kalshion is now housed in the Libertarian platform. The Libertarians however have no shot at the Presidency and if I want to stop this MADNESS I have to vote Democrat. Kerry isn't the answer but at the very least we won't have LUNATICS imparting their morality on all of us. That isn't the God I know. Protect us, I am all for that... but why am I suddenly feeling like this government is more interested in protecting us from ourselves than from the enemy? Think about it.

THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO! ROFLMAO! THAT'S YOUR EFFORT ON DEFENDING A MAN THAT WAS A COWARD AND A PRIVILEDGED PUNK!? Wow... ok, then let's just say that Jaguar is a man that says, "Defer your commission into the service NO MATTER WHAT. Wars are for the little people to fight." That's what you just said pal. Explain to me how what you said isn't THAT. You have got to be kidding me. You put the effort into that defense that Bush put into his effort in the guard. It really doesn't matter if you play the system as long as I agree with you... ROFLMAO. You should be ashamed.

THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO! ROFLMAO! THAT'S YOUR EFFORT ON DEFENDING A MAN THAT WAS A COWARD AND A PRIVILEDGED PUNK!? Wow... ok, then let's just say that Jaguar is a man that says, "Defer your commission into the service NO MATTER WHAT. Wars are for the little people to fight." That's what you just said pal. Explain to me how what you said isn't THAT. You have got to be kidding me. You put the effort into that defense that Bush put into his effort in the guard. It really doesn't matter if you play the system as long as I agree with you... ROFLMAO. You should be ashamed.

ROFLMAO... you're kidding me right? These ads are like anything else in this campaign .. so much BS. I am going to patiently wait for you to answer MY questions. Lord knows Kerry's service in Vietnam surely trumps some slacker that scored in the 25th percentile on pilot training tests and skipped drug testing. Not to mentioned leap frogged 100,000 plus men to enter the guard to AVOID WAR! What a WUSS! Oh yeah it happened... look it up. Love ya Takvah

ROFLMAO... you're kidding me right? These ads are like anything else in this campaign .. so much BS. I am going to patiently wait for you to answer MY questions. Lord knows Kerry's service in Vietnam surely trumps some slacker that scored in the 25th percentile on pilot training tests and skipped drug testing. Not to mentioned leap frogged 100,000 plus men to enter the guard to AVOID WAR! What a WUSS! Oh yeah it happened... look it up. Love ya Takvah

Ok well then let's start from the beginning. OK Jaguar? Explain to me how Bush got assigned to the National Guard. I am going to spew a few FACTS and then you can tell me why he is a bigger hero than Kerry.. OK? Are you still with me? OK... Bush has twelve days until his educational deferment is up in Texas. He applies for the National Guard. Despite the fact that there is a list that is a year and a half long and encompasses 100,000-150,000 other TEXAS MEN "Bush doesn't qualify" he amazingly gets accepted the day he applies. He scores in the 25th percentile of pilot trainees (figure 25% on a test that scores 100%) and yet he is assigned to PILOT TRAINING. Bush also is made 2nd Lieutenant without ever having gone through Officers training of any kind. EXPLAIN IT. Come on now... let's start at the beginning I haven't even gotten to the good stuff where we have a guy in Texas who couldn't find oil with a dipstick and a map backed by the Saudis (who have all the oil in the world) I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHY THIS GUY WAS SO WORTHY. I also want to hear why he was trained on a plane that was three months into DECOMMISSIONING after he joined the service (F-102) and also why he failed to show for a physical in 1972 (strangely enough just when they started testing for drugs and whatnot). Yeah this is Bush hate... a man wanting to know why his President seems to have SKATED through life. I also want explanations from the guy on this forum that said Kerry self inflicted his wounds as to WHY Bush was worthy of the National Guard and for that matter PILOT TRAINING. I want to know how this guy is braver than the cat that was out there taking enemy fire. I can't wait to hear this. Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns. Street is qualified to deal with you... but I just want to tear the flesh off your wormlike spine... SO BRING IT! Love ya Takvah

Ok well then let's start from the beginning. OK Jaguar? Explain to me how Bush got assigned to the National Guard. I am going to spew a few FACTS and then you can tell me why he is a bigger hero than Kerry.. OK? Are you still with me? OK... Bush has twelve days until his educational deferment is up in Texas. He applies for the National Guard. Despite the fact that there is a list that is a year and a half long and encompasses 100,000-150,000 other TEXAS MEN "Bush doesn't qualify" he amazingly gets accepted the day he applies. He scores in the 25th percentile of pilot trainees (figure 25% on a test that scores 100%) and yet he is assigned to PILOT TRAINING. Bush also is made 2nd Lieutenant without ever having gone through Officers training of any kind. EXPLAIN IT. Come on now... let's start at the beginning I haven't even gotten to the good stuff where we have a guy in Texas who couldn't find oil with a dipstick and a map backed by the Saudis (who have all the oil in the world) I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHY THIS GUY WAS SO WORTHY. I also want to hear why he was trained on a plane that was three months into DECOMMISSIONING after he joined the service (F-102) and also why he failed to show for a physical in 1972 (strangely enough just when they started testing for drugs and whatnot). Yeah this is Bush hate... a man wanting to know why his President seems to have SKATED through life. I also want explanations from the guy on this forum that said Kerry self inflicted his wounds as to WHY Bush was worthy of the National Guard and for that matter PILOT TRAINING. I want to know how this guy is braver than the cat that was out there taking enemy fire. I can't wait to hear this. Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns. Street is qualified to deal with you... but I just want to tear the flesh off your wormlike spine... SO BRING IT! Love ya Takvah

ROFLMAO... you're kidding right? This is some weird hoax. Dude let me be clear. Not only do I find you to be an intolerable bore but I also find you to be less than truthful. Give me a BREAK already and lay off of Street... you want the main man you come for me... the fellow Republican that knows how to smack down your BS rhetoric. So Mr. Facts... start proving the Dems wrong, I am giving you first salvo... make it a good one. Because when I'm through with you your grandchildren are going to be limping! I know how to deal with my kind and sadly it has to be with a kick to the nuts and a rake to the eyes. So, come on then... SHOW ME THE LIES! Love ya Takvah

ROFLMAO... you're kidding right? This is some weird hoax. Dude let me be clear. Not only do I find you to be an intolerable bore but I also find you to be less than truthful. Give me a BREAK already and lay off of Street... you want the main man you come for me... the fellow Republican that knows how to smack down your BS rhetoric. So Mr. Facts... start proving the Dems wrong, I am giving you first salvo... make it a good one. Because when I'm through with you your grandchildren are going to be limping! I know how to deal with my kind and sadly it has to be with a kick to the nuts and a rake to the eyes. So, come on then... SHOW ME THE LIES! Love ya Takvah

Kalshion... a question for you. Why in the HELL do I have to prove anything? Did I make the assertion that the footage was doctored? WHO MADE THAT ASSERTION? Was it me or was it you? Who said they ran a test and proved that the footage was doctored? Was it me or was it YOU? I have nothing to prove. What you have to prove is that you ran these tests and that this footage was "super-em-posed" *snickers*. What are you TOO scared to show us the proof? Or are you just a damned LIAR? I would like to think that a fellow member of this fine forum was capabale of defending his or herself. You made an assertion that you had run tests and had PROVEN that the footage was doctored. Now JUNIOR, I'm getting very tired of you passing the buck so now it's time to put up or shut up. PROVE ME WRONG AND DELIVER TO ME YOUR EVIDENCE. Otherwise sit in the corner and let the men talk. Until you deliver that evidence I am calling you out as a LIAR. I don't need to run any tests, I didn't even say the footage was for sure legit, what I said was ... "PROVE YOUR GOD DAMNED ASSERTIONS". Is it too much to ask that you deliver the goods? Sure it is possible that this was done, you said it was... SO PROVE IT! You would think you would be chomping at the bit to stick it to this "liberal", well come on then kid... show me the evidence. You initiated the conversation that said that this was doctored tape, you said you proved it... so why the hell do I have to run a test to prove a LIE wrong? It makes absolutely NO SENSE. I am not the Amazing Randy, I am not paid to debunk your BULLSH*T. Thank you.

Hmmm... pretty shrewish considering you're trying to convey that Kerry is panicing. ROFLMAO. At this point I'm thinking Kerry in a landslide because frankly everyone I talk to (except for here) says Bush has to go. The facts were few in your latest post Jaguar; other than Kerry is mum on the economy not wanting to go into office with his plans on the table and the debate already determined. I guess he wants to spring it on us *snickers*. No, it would not be my policy to say to the people, "I have a plan but I'm holding the cards close to my vest until you elect me". I stand by my convictions and make them plain. I do however, believe that Kerry has a plan and will grant him leniency for the simple fact that I have to put my vote SOMEWHERE... and ANYWHERE is better than with Bush (been there and done that). I think the debates will demand that Kerry take a stand and then I expect to hear more on the economy from both men. Let's face it, John Kerry is vague but I would rather have vague than psychotic, religiously motivated, uninformed and unwavering. Pop another anti-depressant George, I'm being critical and I know you don't handle criticism well. *chuckles* Oh and I'm sorry Jaguar there were two facts in your post. The second you had to read between the lines for but the parroting was unmistakeable. You listen to an oxycontin popping hypocrite that's getting divorced, don't you? *Laughs* Cheers

Hmmm... pretty shrewish considering you're trying to convey that Kerry is panicing. ROFLMAO. At this point I'm thinking Kerry in a landslide because frankly everyone I talk to (except for here) says Bush has to go. The facts were few in your latest post Jaguar; other than Kerry is mum on the economy not wanting to go into office with his plans on the table and the debate already determined. I guess he wants to spring it on us *snickers*. No, it would not be my policy to say to the people, "I have a plan but I'm holding the cards close to my vest until you elect me". I stand by my convictions and make them plain. I do however, believe that Kerry has a plan and will grant him leniency for the simple fact that I have to put my vote SOMEWHERE... and ANYWHERE is better than with Bush (been there and done that). I think the debates will demand that Kerry take a stand and then I expect to hear more on the economy from both men. Let's face it, John Kerry is vague but I would rather have vague than psychotic, religiously motivated, uninformed and unwavering. Pop another anti-depressant George, I'm being critical and I know you don't handle criticism well. *chuckles* Oh and I'm sorry Jaguar there were two facts in your post. The second you had to read between the lines for but the parroting was unmistakeable. You listen to an oxycontin popping hypocrite that's getting divorced, don't you? *Laughs* Cheers

*Sighs* Jaguar, I did debate the guy on his "facts" calling him quite bluntly a LIAR. I don't know how much more blatant I could have been. He was the one that provided NO FACTS. All he said was that he ran tests and that there was an image superimposed over something or other. The whole thing was rather contrived and ended with an absolute statement saying something along the lines of, "I proved you wrong big time". Excuse me? He proved what exactly? I saw no proof... unless the debate was on the use of your and you're in which case he offered resounding proof that he didn't know when to use either. He also spelled the word superimposed incorrectly (the thing he supposedly studied and tested). Funny I listened to Rush today and he attacked a guy for saying the word defecit with an accent that made it sound like "daficit". I bet you would have just yucked and yucked at that. I know who you are Jaguar because I used to be you. I was you less than two years ago, cheering as the bombs fell and wishing that shock and awe was REALLY shock and awe and not shock and bore. Then I saw that our soldiers were hungry, unclean and sweltering in Iraq. I came to see that the Iraq war was being privatized and I'm sorry but I have yet to see a corporation win a war. I started looking at the decision processes of this administration, the lies that were piling up and I did what a thinking person does, I changed my mind. Now you conveniently seem to have determined that you know me, calling me a LIBERAL. You don't know me. However with the way you have to toss around that word "liberal" and demonize it, I know what faction of my party you inhabit... the jack boot, fascist, THUG branch. Hell Congress had to enact legislation to keep Prescott Bush from assisting the Nazis for a buck so why would I not believe his grandson would war profiteer? It is BRAZEN, it is UNREPENTANT and somehow you just overlook it all. Hit the snooze button and go back to sleep. Oh and GET ONE THING PERFECTLY CLEAR HERE AND NOW... because I am TIRING *snickers* OF YOUR PATHETIC SNIPING. I am not saying the Democrats are BETTER I am saying that this country needs checks and balances again and Bush who has abused his power and feels no burden of accountability to US (the people) NEEDS TO GO. I'm not the only Republican that feels this way, I know many that share my same position. So do me a favor and stop trying to paint me as a liberal because I believe Bush needs to go. If I am anything beyond Republican it would be Libertarian. I hope that clears it up for you. Oh and please, spare me your threats. Cheers

Yeah those little unintended features are cool! That's the fun thing about this game, there are ten ways to do anything and determining what works best for you (or what you are best at doing) in order to accomplish the mission is what being in "command" is all about. Moving vehicles with a gunship wasn't intended as a feauture but resourceful Commanders like yourself have kept us entertained with all kinds of cool posts like this.

I think you spew a lot of propaganda... does that make you a liar? Well I guess that's up for debate now isn't it? As for physicists that can't spell, was the point you made even relevant? We stated that we thought that the fact that Kalshion couldn't even spell WHAT HE WAS DOING, affected our belief where it concerned his claims that the tape was doctored. Now if your physicist friends can't spell NEUTRON, or ELECTRON I would have a very REAL problem accepting that they were working with atoms or were for that matter physicists. Nice threat though Jaguar, very subtle. It says a lot about you, most of which I already knew. Peace Oh and as for debating Bush with you, the next time you feel like spewing about the candidates I'll respond. You know that's how it is with us babe... you puke and then I clean it up.

I'll try to get my butt home... shouldn't be a problem. If I for some reason miss you this evening I'll drop a line here. Peace

Hmmm... maybe for you but I have a couple of hours of play time under my belt without so much as a stutter. That said, it is always a good idea to save often with a shooter.