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I managed to download and get the demo running after downloading it from filefront. I am really impressed with the game, even though it isn't quite what I expected. The graphics and shear number of controls it offers is unlike any game I've played before. And, actually, it slightly hints of Rome - Total War (to me) because of the possibility of pirates on planets as well as some of the general gameplay used in the demo and hinted at in the tutorials. I was dissapointed though, to find out that the game won't be going all the way through the original movies as far as technology (no SSDs, TIE Defenders...etc). But it doesn't detract from the game, from what I saw in the demo. Overall, this seems like a great game. I can't wait to pick it up when it's released.

Time to give this thread a bit of a bump. Lucasarts just released a demo for Star Wars: Empire at War. It looks really good, I can't wait to try it out. Links to the demo can be found at the game's official website (www.empireatwar.com). Or you could just head on over to filefront here .

This is just another example of why I'm glad Kerry is not my president. If this is what he thinks of the people in our Armed Services, where might he have tried to lead this country? Also, his quote doesn't make sense. He said that our soldiers are terrorizing people by failing to observe their costumes? When troops move in durring the dead of night, it's probably because they're making some kind of raid on a known terrorist location. When they do this, they don't know if/when/where they might be attacked. And when you're under threat of coming under fire, local customs are some of the least of your worries. I don't understand why Kerry wouldn't know that if he's truly served in a combat zone. Feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood something. This is just my take on it. One last thought, this reminds me of a quote on a shirt some of the Army guys around here wear: quote:"It is the soldier, not the poet, who gives us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier,not the reporter, who gives us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, no the campus organizer, who gives us freedom to protest. It is the soldier, who serves beneath the flag, who salutes the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives the demonstrator the right to burn the flag." Not entirely applicable to this, but it is a good thing to remember anytime our military comes under political fire.

My favorite: quote:ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam? You mentioned the court reporter, I wonder how many of the witnesses managed to keep a straight face with some of these.

quote: heh, I take it nobody completed the campaign then? I haven't yet. I keep starting a new one to try and get it perfect. Maybe I'll go with my first try to see it through to the end even though I missed the smuggler and didn't manage to get to that ship in the second mission before it got destroyed. After all, it's the way my imperfections change the way the game unfolds that makes these games so great.

quote: Matchoo stated: I noticed that all the hardware codes my pc generated are saved in the registry...Where in the registry did you manage to find the hardware code? I'd just like to know because it'd be nice to have a back-up I can refer to if I lose one.

Awesome. Order placed. Next week seems so far away now...

quote: Originally posted by Jaguar: BUT, you have your unit, you have your freinds in that unit, and if the commander is a good one, and most are, the morale in the unit and with each individual soldier will be high no matter what the conditions. Very well said Jag. I agree with that and believe that it is that type of atmosphere that helps enable our soldiers to fight as they do. I also believe it is the reason why so many are wanting to go back. It has nothing to do with bloodlust, or whether or not they agree with the decisions their superiors made. Regardless of what they thing, they're there and they have a job to do with their brothers. If they fail to do that job, people WILL die. Those that want to go back, from my experience, are wanting to return because their 'brothers and sisters in arms' are still over there and dying. I have never once heard them question the fact that they were sent there, why, because it doesn't change the fact that they have a job to do. Sure they may complain about little annoyances every once in a while, and, yes, they may be scared at times. But it's words like "duty, honor, loyalty, and brotherhood" that mean most to these soliders. And, that, is what I feel this thread hinges on. Most soldiers out there aren't going to let the little anoyances get in the way of them doing their job. And they will do it to the best of their ability, even if it costs their life in order to complete it.

After reading this thread, I want to say I agree completely with what Jag said, and he said it very well. All I really have to say about this arguement is based on the friends I have that are either in Iraq right now or have recently returned. Those that are there are not unhappy about being there. Those who have already returned from deployment can't wait to go back.

Robert Iceman accepts Gul Maroc's challenge for the 16th of July at 1800GMT. Cloaking permission denied.

quote:Mano Faber said: Guess you're going for SH3 now Yeah. What really sold me was the fully dynamic campaign. Plus, you nailed what's been nagging the back of my mind for a while. I have the urge to try something new. Hopefully I'll have enough money to get DW at the end of the summer. Between SH3 and UC:AWA (once it's released), I'm going to be in the hole for cash for a while. Though, getting DW at the end of the summer won't be good for my grades.

quote:Mordax Blyrr said: I do think, though, that DW wins at the end of the day due to its flexibility; more platforms.I would normally agree with you. I've been looking forward to DW for two years (since a beta was shown to me at a sonalysts' booth in DC). But I think I'm going to wait a while longer before I purchase it because I'm curious about SH3 (especially since purchasing LOMAC, which really impressed me). It's something new, and, since I've never tried a WWII sub-sim before, I want to experience a naval simulator without all the high-tech equipment today's navy has. If I get the urge for a modern simulator, I still have Sub Command. I do have a question about DW, though. When launching an MH-60A from the FFG, does DW allow you to switch to inside the helo (much like, when you launch a shuttle from your Command Craft in UC, you can switch perspectives)?

quote: Mano Faber said: But since you already have some modern navalsims , ie Fleet Command and 688i, you might like to try something else. That's what I was thinking. Especially since I've heard that DW is very similar to Sub Command, except with multiple platform types. I think I'm going to go with SH3. I've never played a WWII sub simulator before, and am curious to try it out. Thanks for the help.

Any opinions on which one I should get? My first choice has been Dangerous Waters since I have been a huge fan of Sonalysts all the way back to when they released 688(i) and Fleet Command. But, as I've been looking at Silent Hunter 3 I've become more and more interested in it based on the dynamic campaign, weather, and crew. I wish I could get both, but don't currently have enough $. Thanks.

quote: Multiplayer Requirements ┬À Client requires 56K or broadband modemAll the way through BCNG! I'll be able to play online. I've been worried a while that I won't be able to keep up with things online, since I live out in the sticks with no broadband option. As for my hardware...well, I'll need to upgrade sometime in the next year. But that's alright with me, your games are well worth it. Thanks SC and congrats. I look forward to buying all of them.