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  1. quote:Originally posted by Ockham: quote:Originally posted by XOR: yes I see where you are going and now I have a question... Is there a point at which a human is not a human? A human/thing is not a human when "it" does not fit our definition of "human" or "it" is not human if and when we choose not to recognize "it" as human I agree on all points except one:what is "we" and what significance does that "we" have compared to the other people which you didnt include in "we"?I would prefer "I".
  2. @Nomad:First of all I must say I like your consistent *style* in your posts,though I dont agree with many of them(they seem a bit dogmatic to me,Im more on the sceptic side) they have good intellectual quality. quote: Going back to human definition, I have a hard time with the term "infinity". We know that there is probably a beginning. And just like you,I have a hard time with the term "beginning".Lets assume that our ancestors are monkeys,I wonder at which exact point can you say:"we're human from now on,we were monkeys before". And beginning concept takes us to creationism which is certainly a contradictory idea. About infinity issue I can say the model in my head is something like no.1 theory you posted but defined in a set (-inf,+inf)(If we see whatever happens(I couldnt find the right word but..) as a function of time).Infinity is really a mind boggling but satisfying subject to think about . quote: heh interesting how we began this conversation with birth control pills and now we are talking about evolution and eternity I was thinking the same thing . [ 11-14-2004, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: Wolfheart ]
  3. quote:Originally posted by XOR: yes yes I know life goes back to when God created everything, but im talking about one human now not all humans across history Since you seem to belive in destiny(I belive in free will but apparently God knows all the choices we will make so perhaps we do have a destiny in a sense) so I will change my argument to the "physical human life cycle" Here is my logic: the egg and sperm are just two halves of a new whole. Its only the genetic information that comes togeather like if you had a blueprint and it was cut in half... If the two halves come togeather then the "physical" human life cycle is set in motion because the mother's body builds off of that "blueprint" isnt that the same for anything else that reproduces sexually? the only difference being animals that lay eggs since their yoke has all that is required to "build off the blueprint" once it is fertilized I apologise for my bad english ,I guess I somehow managed to mess things up .When I said forever and eternity I meant infinity-in a mathmatical sense.So my theory is that there is no creator and all "things" have always existed-but by continously changing form- from infinity.This includes all material that comes together to form us.So I say if we define human by the pieces which make them then we should say everybody have always existed.And my conclusion is that we need a more practical way of defining humans to use in laws,etc.. than going with strict logic. What I dont get is why you dont think of those "blueprints" as humans when you can say a one celled living is human . OT:Its a really interesting coincidence that you think I belive in destiny,because a few other people also find some of my ideas(though materialist in nature) similar to destiny concept in holy books. I hope we understand each other more clearly this time
  4. quote:Originally posted by XOR: . But the point im trying to make, that our friend Wolfheart was so adept at missing, is that ultimatly the beginning of a human is when the sperm enters the egg... I dont see how that has to do with any of my "holy books" seeing as how I didnt even base my argument on the bible but on science. Science is also a system based on certain beliefs but lets not get there..Im not missing anything,I see your point and I disagree because if we are to strictly follow human(I dont mean humanity,I mean *one* human) life cycle we'll see it goes back to eternity(if we dont confuse ourselves with books which thinks otherwise).What I dont get is you follow humans life cycle to "sperm enters egg" but the same you for some strange reason stop there,because that "person" exist in sperm and egg before they meet each other,I dont think there is any magic in fertilization;if we follow "strict logic" we should find out that its just a period in human life.Of course thinking that way would be disasterous in practical issues,so we should find a practical(doesnt need to be perfect) solution.And I think the best solution would be to say we are human after were born(again I know its not perfect but its better than chasing shadows). Though I know why you wont understand me .Its because as much as you try to think scientifically,you will still have concepts like "first,beginning" while my thoughts are based on the argument "life goes back to forever".Hence my referance to your holy book. quote:Im saying the beginning of the HUMAN LIFE CYCLE is when the sperm enters the egg how hard is that to understand? No its not hard to understand,its just illogical.
  5. Fact!!Define me that term ,please.You really like to see the world with concepts like ultimate,absolute,fact right?I guess stuff like subjectivity,change,relativity gives you quite a headache But of course you are free to make yourself happy by assuming to know facts.This discussion is about definitions of murder and human,murder is handled with social cantacts and definition of human will be as well but these are only practical solutions(for good of many),they are NOT and CANNOT be absolute truths.But your holy books tell different so Im probably wrong
  6. quote:Originally posted by XOR: personally i feel like its a human life the exact moment pregnancy is set in motion(sperm enters egg) since that is the beginning of the life-cycle of a human after all thats if you want to go by a strictly logical point of view... No,on the contrary its just a simple and illogical POV.Beginning of the lifecycle of a human being "sperm enters egg" is just a belief-certainly not strict logic-,like many others.To be able to argue about it we should have a shared definition of "human" and we certainly dont..But the best possible solution to this with the ideal of democracy seems to me what france did.Its not perfect,its not logical to elite minorities or to people who *really* think about it(meaning people out of this is evil this is holy-good,whatever- attitude) but it makes masses happy.At least more than other solutions.. Edit(after clarifications).France sucks
  7. quote:Originally posted by marshb63: and the tacops menu open to transporter showing the evac button yellowed out. The CC is not in Hyperspace, its planetside in the mzone with the marine. You can only use the transporter in *space*. I have no idea about other problems but marines not executing orders correctly is usually a sign of low ai level.
  8. Its not famous here either,it was played in a few theaters(like most non-turkish and non-hollywood movies) but its a really facinating movie. Trailer and stuff and A review
  9. Not the most original theme but perfect execution and great performances.I cant tell much about it because its really great as a whole.I dont know how you missed that up,its one of the most memorable movies I have ever seen. I was already fond of japanese films and now Ill keep an eye on Korea too. 9/10
  10. 1.fight club(perhaps the best film Ive ever seen,it has a strange affect on me every time I watch it) 2.ring 3.unbreakable 4.event horizon 5.pulp fiction 6.rezervoir dogs 7.training day 8.one missed call 9.audition 10.fahrenheit 911(probably spelled wrong ) I have a bad habit of forgetting names but these should be enough to have a rough idea about my movie tastes.
  11. I just saw the movie and I totally agree with scriv;it was disgusting,easily one of the worst movies I have ever seen(I know this doesnt tell much but scriveners review is just too good to add anything to it).The only good thing in the movie was that the lead female didn't cry after the preds death-against my expectations.
  12. quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: You have EVERY right to do it, but keep it private where it belongs, it is YOUR private life, I do not assail people with my sexual life, why should I be assailed with thier's? Im not homo,I dunnu how you made that up,I just dont like people playing judges on such subjective concepts.just for the records quote: Human Beings are NOT animals, we know what is right, and what is wrong. Its your belief and you may stick to it as you like but RIGHT and WRONG are subjective(i.e.There are NO certain rights or wrongs only YOUR rights and wrongs) quote: They are trying to make the age of consent for boys 14 Im not aware of any solid definition of "boy",its just another artificial(and again subjective) definition. Nations need to die and new ones be found,this is whats making earth spin.If they didnt we would have serious problems.Humans change faster than laws-thats whats destroying nations and making new ones- all your arguments which you speak of as it was the ultimate truth will CHANGE(ironically new people like you will defend those new ideas blindly,and they will become ultimate truths of that age)
  13. quote:Originally posted by Shingen: quote:Originally posted by Wolfheart: strength of an idea is strength of its believers, so if there are enough homos to make people recognize and accept homosexualism concept,its right, NO MATTER whether OTHER ANIMALS DO IT OR NOT(or no matter what any godly book writes about it ). Yeah, you could also make the same rationalization for Pedophiles, Necrophiliacs, Sadists and Rapists as well. Yes I do...I not talking about leaving those guys alone on the contrary anyone should do what they feel like, as its normal(ideas fight and die-just like their followers- and its not gonna stop),if you think homos,rapists ,whatever are your communities enemy(thus yours) you have every right to try to eleminate them.What I was trying to say was that I dont think we should determine their righteousness by looking to nature or books(i.e. "animals have homos,humans have homos so homos are right" argument is logical as "animals do not cook food,humans do so humans are wrong");history will prove them right or wrong(you know the saying "winners are always right"). quote:Are you willing to open Pandora's Box? Im not afraid of thinking,no matter where my thoughts will lead me to...
  14. Ots a city,then take out any remaining barracks with your fighters.After that you will only worry about few marines coming from other buildings But dont forget that they also fight intruders.So dont go and OTS every enemy city just to practice,its genocide.
  15. Slow down and take it easy (main gun power :%10-30 when the station is near death should do the trick)
  16. quote:Originally posted by Shingen: then I'm sure that we can also agree on these points: Violence and bloodshed in protection and expansion of territory is acceptable. The strong should dominate the weak and the weak should die to make room for the young. All resources belong to the strong. The weak have no rights to anything except starvation and death. The strong (male) may spread his seed and impregnate any female that he can dominate. If there is a opposing male, violence and death are acceptable to maintain dominance of the female. Life is cheap. As long as the species survives, the individual is expendable. Makes perfect sense,but if started we should continue; there is nothing wrong in weak trying to survive by any means necessary-for example by taking the initiative. ones (society) defending its own ideals is as right as the others attacking for it.NO matter what that ideal is,as an idea is ultimate only for the ones who believe it(ones shouting louder wont change it). strength of an idea is strength of its believers, so if there are enough homos to make people recognize and accept homosexualism concept,its right, NO MATTER whether OTHER ANIMALS DO IT OR NOT(or no matter what any godly book writes about it ).
  17. Great!! And it could be even better if we could arrange meetings and stuff..
  18. perhaps they stole them? Look for them in your shuttles.Nevertheless relying on a supply of 400 radine for 3 hours is not a good idea(I spend 200-300 radine each hour).
  19. quote:Originally posted by Opal_Dragon: Or do you think I am plainly just stuck to waiting and buying another copy?? Do you think there is there hope?? I dont think you need another copy,Im sure someone would scan the referance card and send it to you if you provide your POP. quote: I looked im my profile and there is no message... so maybe it was Deleted.. it was quite awhile ago. It basically tells you to put a link of your sysinfo page to your sig.You can get the info by clicking "read this now" at the top of the main forum page. Its important because Sc cares about it and he is the one who can give the permission to copy the refcard. And meanwhile you may want to search uc,bcm,legacy forums for a similar incident,maybe Sc already told what to do in such a case. Edit.Indeed he did good news [ 10-15-2004, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Wolfheart ]
  20. Im sure you have CD version,but Im talking about the case.Is that the type in which dvds are put? Im asking this because if its dvd case you may still have hope for your referance card as they are attached to the case.If not then you should provide a valid proof of purchase as piracy is a bit sensitive issue. BTW you should check the pm you got from SC(the welcome message). Ps.You need to relax
  21. favs: BCMG,europa universalis,heroes of M&M 3-4,disciples 1,sacrifice,dungeon keeper 2,hostile waters,starlancer,starcraft,crimsonland(freeware),in cold blood,earth 2140. not-so-favs: age of empires 2,civilization2:test of time,arcatera,deep fighter.I really regret buying those games.
  22. First your comms officer tells you an "urgent message recieved",this is recorded in commlink computer,then the message itself shows up right behind it.If there is no message after your comms officers announcement then you may have to wait a few secs.
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