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Originally posted by Scirocco81:

There are a few (totally unrelated) forums I wish had admins/mods with as much sleuthing skills as you SC. Keep it up, and I hope the trolls don't wear you down.


Wear me down? LMAO!!! Man, I've been doing this for so long that I've probably got troll blood in me.

Its no big deal really; I'm used to it.

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I wish for the Master Cmdr. to see this with all of his little Keebler Elves. I hope you love the fact that you've lost another customer.......I'll tell everybody the truth...how much your games suck really bad and they're a waste of time. I'll tell them how much their website and forums suck and how boring their games r.[/q]

I find it funny how this guy thinks he is going to actually make us feel bad. I mean, it's kind of hard to listen to a guy who doesn't use english, and actually gets mad about being banned from a forum that has no bearing on his ability to play his purchased liscence.

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Well, I just got into the office with several post reports (one from Denny) about some cracker (aka Flint) who posted this in two threads. But the admins/mods had already taken care of it.

Funny thing is, he also sent this same thing to both the devteam and support email addresses.

I did a search and found out who he is

code:


Troy Willig / Willig Piano Services

A-1 Piano Service and Sales

AAA Piano Services

Service>316-554-1764

Tunings>316-788-5844


Here is the post. It is offensive, so be warned before reading it. It doesn't bother me in the least.

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X-Persona:

Return-Path:

Delivered-To: galcom-3000ad:[email protected]

X-Envelope-To: [email protected]

Received: (qmail 97437 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2004 05:54:24 -0000

Received: from web20604.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.226.162)

by qs292.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2004 05:54:24 -0000

Message-ID:

Received: from [67.67.247.51] by web20604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:23 PDT

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:23 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: Dumbest F**%$ng Game I Have EVER Come Across!

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

X-Spam-Filtered: d326419afd31d64e37ddbcb04596936e

X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.5 tests=BAYES_00

X-Spam-Flag: NO

X-Spam-Level:

You should have, at the very least, included an

in-game tutorial to walk a customer though the

processes (especially the controls). I spent over 12

hours trying to figure out this pathetically stupid

(piece-of-s**t) game. Everything from trying to figure

out how in the f**k to use the controls to getting to

certain screens such as the launch bay not having

power screen or whatever it was trying to direct me

towards.

Jesus Christ what a stupid game.

Had I known that a ni**er put this pile-of-shit

together I would have NEVER even thought about buying

it. This game (Universal Combat) is the most obvious

and shameful example of those people who should NOT be

in the computer game producing business!!! This guy is

the KING of all of them.

I intent to return this game with any means possible

to return my money to my pocket and to put this ni**er

back on welfare!

Later dipshit!


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Yep, deleted him, deleted topic.

Usually, I give people a chance, or two. But not this time...

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I even kindly but firmly answer his post.... hoping that he would read it before the topic got deleted...

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quote:

Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr:

Oh boy. I had no idea. How'd you find this stuff?

I use dogpile for my searches and I just typed "Willig Piano Services". Frankly, I didn't think I was going to find anything. Well, other than the usual business listing. My eye's boggled when I saw that link. In fact, it was the first returned result in the list. Here's the listings I got:

1. Slavery Reparations - We Won't Pay

... would never pay. 37, Troy Willig / AAA Piano Services, Kansas, Some points and questions about yesterdays rally ... more. 38, Danette ...

http://www.wewontpay.com/who.html

2. Technicians

... AAA Piano Services / Willig & Sons [email protected]oo.com 316-529-8863 (TUNE) USA Wichita/Sedgwick Kansas 2 Professionally Trained Technicians & Tuners. ...

http://www.equaltemperament.com/piano/tech...ns/default.ht...

3. The Music of John Hill Hewitt (1801-1890)

... to request copies from the Photoduplication Services Division there ... Tambour), Hewitt, Baltimore: George Willig, Jr. Greek March (for Piano) , none, Baltimore: George ...

http://www.pdmusic.org/hewitt.html

4. New York's World Trade Center: Tall Stories

... the future Th├®r├¿se Fortier Willig, was working ... the flagstones and firefighters doused the burning piano. ... solvent while maintaining services, their dependency ...

http://ericdarton.net/html/tallstories.html

5. Slavery Reparations - We Won't Pay

Full Pledge Commments from Troy Willig / AAA Piano Services. Some points and questions about yesterdays rally. 1st... I would like ...

]http://www.wewontpay.com/pl37.html and more...

Don't ask me why I even bothered doing a search on the guy. I've been in uber internet search mode since delving into that political stuff in the other threads. Ah, what was one more search.

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And I here I was thinking Google was the culprit.

Thanks LIS (OK, that didn't sound right, did it?)

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NOW you have something, which would cost, very little to legally pursue, and a buisness(assets included)to file against..

WHAT an idiot!!

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I wouldn't let this guy anywhere near my piano. God only knows what kind of frustration he'd take out on the ebony keys.

can you imagine, the keyboards?..ALL IVORY...

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That has to be the funniest thing I have ever seen (the post that the guy put on the "We Won't Pay" site). He says:

quote:

I would really like to know when the White-Americans are going to get their reparations from many centuries of "white" slavery from the "black" Egyptians of 4000 years ago?

Hmmm. I didn't know there were White people in Egypt 4000 years ago and I thought America only came into existence 228 years ago (at least as of Sunday...happy 4th folks). In fact, if memory serves it was the JEWS that were enslaved by the Egyptians. Wow. If you're going to be a racist you should at least make an attempt to be an informed racist.

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It is indeed an oxymoron.

Henry Rollins once said that he always listened to people who give arguments supporting racism because it's always good to "know your enemy" so that you are better able to debate the merits of your postion. Generally most racists have at least thought through their position in some kind of rational way but I don't know if "thought" ever went through that guys mind. I actually almost feel sorry for him because many people posted after him and his e-mail address is right there. I wonder if he got any angry e-mails from the triple-K club?

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From what I could find out about this moreoff, he is just another racist 'bama redneck who steals the sheets off of the beds of his children so he can go to Knucklehead Knucklehead Knucklehead rallies and anonomously spout racist hatred at fellow sheet wearing moreoffs.

Let's put them in a Porky's movie and introduce them to some real Americans...The Seminole

A quick call and a heads up to the Justice Department might adjust his attitude.

During my time in the military I had to witness the ugly side of racism from both sides of the fence. It didn't take long to put them all in their place and adjust their attitude to the TEAM concept; "There is no "I" in the word TEAM. and I have a weapon here that is more powerful than any weapon the Army will ever issue to you, It's called an M-60 Ballpoint pen.

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I'm not even going to go into any lenghty detail since I can't spend any more time on this. But, read these and draw your own conclusions.

We got no less than eleven emails from this creep, and his "dad". I can't imagine how this fool hasn't figured out yet that the "....my son, the retard, did it, not me" excuse died a long time ago and that ISPs are all too hip to it already.

These are in chronological order and where duplicated (e.g. one email was sent to no less than three @3000ad.com accounts), I only list the first one.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:40:45 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: Re: Tech Support

To: Webmaster

Another TYPICAL response from a bunch of low-life

NIGGERS. Do NOT contact me again or I will consider it

HARASSMENT. Jizz it... Jozz it... JOOD!

(Ebonics for Get it... Got it... GOOD!)

Bottom line: Your Software SUCKS. You need to find

another line of laziness. And I will not back down

from my stance that had I known that it was a ni**er

that made this product, and from past experience with

ni**ers, I would have NEVER even thought about buying

this program. Your race bring these kinds of responses

upon themselves because of their constant whining

among other self-degrading methods of "affirmative

retr-action". Too bad you are you! I pity all of you

and your race that you cannot just go out get a job

and actually work for what you get! AND back up your

crappy product IF you decide to produce software like

rabbits!

Lats, C

PS. Oh, Yeah... You missed by an astronomical unit

(AU) when you said the midwest and earthlink.

So try again dipshits!

|Hey man,

|

|we know who you are. We've seen, catalogued and forwarded your racist

|remarks to the authorities. And if I were you, I would stop sending emails

|of this nature. Especially since we have sent all your emails and

|forum posts to Yahoo (you violate their TOS), your ISP (midwest.net,

|now owned by earthlink.net)

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:48:08 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: If you wish an apology then I expect an apology first.

To: Webmaster

And remember...

I tried to be nice in the beginning about this matter

and you guys sent me a return email calling me a

"...NAZI..." and a "...cracker...".

So, I can always pass that email onto the authorities

as well. TRY ME!

I am taking the game back to the store and I will not

be contending with your lame products ever again.

This email now ends our disagreement and I expect you

to stop sending me nasty emails as well!!!

If you wish an apology then I expect an apology first.

LATS, C

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:13:57 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: An apology from the father of 'Clint'.

To: [email protected]

May I start out by saying that I had no idea that this

was going on and had I known I would have, of-course,

been very upset before today and definitely would have

stopped the activity in its tracks.

Please accept my apologies on behalf of myself and my

child. My child was not brought up in an atmosphere of

hatred and I do not understand this behavior and do

not condone it either.

As prevelent as racism can be nowadays I strongly

believe that this was just my child testing you to see

if a response would be made in kind. I do not believe

that my kid is a racist and I will make absolutely for

sure that it never even gets a foothold in this house.

Please accept my apology as well as 'Clints' apology

for the behavior. It will not happen again, Sirs.

Thank you, Troy Willig

[email protected]

=====

Troy Willig / Willig Piano Services

A-1 Piano Service and Sales

AAA Piano Services

Service>316-554-1764

Tunings>316-788-5844

[email protected]

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:55:28 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: Re: An apology from the father of 'Clint'.

To: Webmaster

I won't explain in too much length but I walked in on

my child tonight and there appeared to be something

wrong. So I asked and my child told me what was

happening. This after a very short period of

pressuring. Believe me this email address is mine and

I had no idea that this was happening. I bought this

game for my child. I am and this situation is for

real.

Also, I do understand the need for you guys to send

this on to Yahoo and I do not blame you for doing so.

However I do not understand the thing about the

> http://www.wewontpay.com/who.html and the other

>

> http://www.wewontpay.com/pl37.html..

Does this mean you want me to pay you for the wrong

doing? I don't understand, sorry.

Troy

Also, Please allow me ask you to please send these

apologies to Yahoo in addition to any of the other

emails in question that you intend to send or have

sent. So that they may respond to me and not to my

child about this matter. Thank you

--- Webmaster wrote:

Sorry,

but I am not the one handling this. I was just told to

filter all these messages and send them along (with headers)

to our legal folks. You can contact them at [email protected]

as I believe they have already been in contact with Yahoo

as well as the primary ISP that your "son" uses to access

the Internet.

If you are indeed his father (yeah, we've heard that one

before, no really - and so have the ISPs), then how could

not be aware of these two links?

http://www.wewontpay.com/who.html

http://www.wewontpay.com/pl37.html

And how is he using your email address?

And how did you come to find out about this harrassment? In

fact, right now, I see three more emails he sent this

evening. Oddly enough, this one I am replying to, came in

shortly after his latest masterpiece. He sent them at

8:48pm. And yours came in at 9:14PM. Why don't you check

your outbox and see for yourself.

Webmaster

3000AD Inc

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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:29:05 -0700

To: Webmaster

Subject: Re: Abuse of Yahoo TOS and harrassment (KMM14127664V53316L0KM)

From: Yahoo!Mail

Reply-To: Yahoo!Mail

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

In this particular case, we have taken appropriate action against the

Yahoo! account in question, as per our Terms of Service (TOS). For

further details about the Yahoo! TOS, you can visit:

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Please know that Yahoo! is unable to disclose the action taken on

another user's account with a third party. We are not able to make

exceptions to this rule.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Anna

Yahoo! Customer Care

http://www.yahoo.com/

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A few mins ago, this went over to Lisa who forwarded it to me.

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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:01:44 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: Re: Apology from the father of 'Clint'.

To: Biz

Thank You Lisa...

…and again please relay to everybody involved that

the slurs will not happen ever again in either of the

two parties emails. As well, please let all who read

the emails and were offended by such know about our

sides’ deepest regret that this happened and our

sides’ personal apologies to you and your staff for

having to take the time out of your busy days to

handle this problem.

I assure you though that after *researching* your

emails this way and the return emails sent your way

that this could have been avoided from your very first

email to my child. My child took it personally when

the response to the problem with the game email'ed

back from you guys basically included a 'We don't

care' within it.

It is my belief that had your people handled this

situation a little bit better and been a little more

concerned about standing behind your product this

would have never happened. My child asked a simple

question of your staff and basically got blown-off by

them. ***That is not to say that my child had the

right to write any emails that escaped the true

problem or use profanity when writing such.***

However, I do believe that this issue, with the

emails, is now resolved and I also expect there to be

no more raunchy emails, by either party. This game

will be returned to the store and hopefully my child

will never by a game again that causes such a problem!

In addition: With respect to your support people; may

I say that they need a refresher course in why they

are there and the proper writing of emails (such as

the ones in question) back to the customer. I

concluded that concern is something that was clearly

lacking in your emails.

Both sides of this issue are clear-cut.

#1. Your staff... should have taken care of the

problem rather than blowing off the customer who spent

their money for your benefit.

#2. The customer... who feels that he was not served

in a courteous manner should never stoop to the level

of some in our society who represent so few. They

should never go tit-for-tat with someone as well.

(Example: you did this, so we did this, so you did

that and so we did that…etc.) Like two year olds.

I know that this situation got way out of hand and was

not handled, by either party, in a professional

manner. But our side does apologize for our part in

this matter!

Thanks, Troy Willig

P.S. I also expect someday that the black community

will eventually stop using the N-word themselves. I'm

sure that, as a thinking adult, you probably wish this

as well and are tired of hearing blacks demean

themselves with such words in print, by mouth or in

song. Once this word is removed from the mainstream

context it will only take a few years before its not

cool, for either side, to use such a word, or an

offshoot of the word, (example: niggaz) anymore. The

N-word is way too prevalent in today’s society, white

AND black.

------------------------------------------------------

=====

Troy Willig / Willig Piano Services

A-1 Piano Service and Sales

AAA Piano Services

Service>316-554-1764

Tunings>316-788-5844

[email protected]

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I just dug up the original email the "dad" (LOL!!) was refering to in his first contact missive above. Here is it, complete with headers.

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Delivered-To: galcom-3000ad:[email protected]

X-Envelope-To: [email protected]

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:23:21 -0700 (PDT)

From: Troy Willig

Subject: Tech Support

To: [email protected]

X-Spam-Filtered: d326419afd31d64e37ddbcb04596936e

X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.5 tests=BAYES_00

X-Spam-Flag: NO

X-Spam-Level:

ERROR MESSAGE PROBLEMS:

MFS_INIT Failed To Obtain: RESLIB1A.RES

Please Advise or the game gets returned!

Troy

[email protected]

=====

Troy Willig / Willig Piano Services

A-1 Piano Service and Sales

AAA Piano Services

Service>316-554-1764

Tunings>316-788-5844

[email protected]

__________________________________

Do you Yahoo!?

New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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And the subsequent reply (which includes the canned tech support response anyone who sends email to that address, gets.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:26:58 -0400

To: Troy Willig

From: Tech Support

Subject: Re: Tech Support

At 06:23 AM 6/30/2004, you wrote:

ERROR MESSAGE PROBLEMS:

MFS_INIT Failed To Obtain: RESLIB1A.RES

Please Advise or the game gets returned!

Thats nice. Go ahead, return it.

Please read these....

__________________________________________________________________________

If you are looking for the Universal Combat tutorial, it is contained in the

latest patch available on our website downloads page (see below).

If you have Universal Combat and when you run it you are getting a message

that your card does not have a Vertex Shader, please read this forum thread

as well as the game troubleshooting FAQ.

If you have debugger or emulation software detected or similar error after

applying a game patch, please read this forum thread.

__________________________________________________________________________

If you need game patches

They are available on our website downloads page

If you need game tech support

Read the game FAQ on the website downloads page or check our discussion forums

__________________________________________________________________________

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I have no words.....I'm simply astonished....

How can theese people be real...

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Me thinks: (daddy?)has gotten, a wee bit, concerned, and is attempting to defuse his responsibility cocerning what was said........or (Junior?) is playing games, as to who's who.

He(they?) MUST, yet, be reading these forums..too.

Either way..It never ceases to amaze me, how dense headed SOME people can be.

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quote:


Originally posted by street:

Me thinks: (daddy?)has gotten, a wee bit, concerned, and is attempting to defuse his responsibility cocerning what was said........or (Junior?) is playing games, as to who's who.


I'm going with a combination of both. Regardless of whether its the "child" or the "dad", either way, they're definitely worried. And, knowing what I know, they have every right to be. I don't play around.

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