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Hello, I thought id come here and share my opinon with you bunch of geeks, (im one too) Honestly, Id like some one to tell me some good that religion has done for the world.

People take there beliefes to seriously and should take up looking at reiligon as ideas, ideas that can change and grow with more ideas from others.

In my opinon to many BAD things have happend with reiligon as the cause: crusades being one, terrorist exuse for causeing harm, and just general feudes between people. Just cause some one BEILIFES something you dont dose not give them the right to get mad and try to kill them, dose it?, I think not.

So if people had ideas they could change them and share them without any one getting mad, or at least so I think.

Please tell me what YOU think, and what good you think Reiligon has done for the world, id like to know.

(Edited Spelling in topic subject)

[ 05-27-2005, 12:43 AM: Message edited by: Remo Williams ]

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To many people of the World, their faith is ALL they have.

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Religions is all that keeps some people under control.

We are animals after all, and animals have baser instincts, the only difference between us and the animal kingdom is that we can think, and we keep those baser instincts under control.

One of the BEST sources for that control is religion, be it whatever religion you care to name.

ALL religions can be perverted, such as Islam and terrorists, or Christians and the crusades.

BUT, you will notice, as a countries religious traditions go away, their crime rates go up, murder rates go up, divorce rates go up.... ETC, etc, ad nauseum.

Religion is a necessity in our civilization, and you had better hope that it stays that way, when relgions disapears, so will civilization and FREEDOM.

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You just like making snide remarks after Jaguars post for entertainment or is it you like instigating trouble with admins here?

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quote:

Originally posted by Jaguar:

Religions is all that keeps some people under control.

We are animals after all, and animals have baser instincts, the only difference between us and the animal kingdom is that we can think, and we keep those baser instincts under control.

One of the BEST sources for that control is religion, be it whatever religion you care to name.

ALL religions can be perverted, such as Islam and terrorists, or Christians and the crusades.

BUT, you will notice, as a countries religious traditions go away, their crime rates go up, murder rates go up, divorce rates go up.... ETC, etc, ad nauseum.

Religion is a necessity in our civilization, and you had better hope that it stays that way, when relgions disapears, so will civilization and FREEDOM.

I'm about as non-religious as it gets, and I can control myself perfectly well. So I don't believe people *need* religion to be civil, though I agree it played a large part in accelerating the birth of civilization thus becoming a "hard habit to break".

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I don't see religion as a control in my life. Religion isn't about punishment, but life ever lasting liberation from pain and punishment to live forever with the creator without war, death, disease, hunger, or injustice for those that love him more than the ways of the creation. Although some use it as a control, which is unfortunate, but thatÔÇÖs not what religions about IMO

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quote:

Originally posted by Grizzle:

though I agree it played a large part in accelerating the birth of civilization thus becoming a "hard habit to break".

It has also held us back substantially.

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lol I knew that this post would get alot of respones and I was right (:

Well just to clarify, I never said religion is bad, I know there are some people that is all they have, but I think its better if people had Ideas rather than belifes. With an Idea you can question your existance, not be afraid about doing some thing wrong or fearing fire and brimstone form the "creator"

The problem is that people always try to use religon as an exuse to control people, with belifes that is very easy, with ideas its very hard and almost impsoible.

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quote:

Originally posted by DarkCommander:

lol I knew that this post would get alot of respones and I was right (:

Well just to clarify, I never said religion is bad, I know there are some people that is all they have, but I think its better if people had Ideas rather than belifes. With an Idea you can question your existance, not be afraid about doing some thing wrong or fearing fire and brimstone form the "creator"

The problem is that people always try to use religon as an exuse to control people, with belifes that is very easy, with ideas its very hard and almost impsoible.

It is NOT only religion, it is politics as well..

You don't have to be religious in order to want to control people and their behavior.

There are MANY people that would be MORE then happy to control EVERY aspect of your life... And religion would be a problem for them.

I am a Deist, I don't have a religion, and despise religions in any form, because they are made by a bunch of control freaks, but I ALSO HATE communism, Socialism, in ANY form, and anything that tries to control people and their behavior.

If you try to take away my rights, I blow you away, pretty simple to me.

If someone tries to FORCE you to do something, kill them, or threaten them in some way, and they will leave you alone.

I just want to be left alone... Pretty easy... LOL

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OK ounce again I did not put as much in my post as I should have. The problem is that Non-Religous people use Religion to control very good religous people. Im my opion Religous people are very good and kind people, but when some one, As Jaguar said; its a political reason that that person uses to take control of the religous groups. Ounce again proving my point.

If you put your faith (and Belife) into some one like a bishop or the pope, that says "you must do this" then that person will probely do it fearing eternal damnation if they dont.

Now some one who listens, but has ideas can reason it out and say, "well I know what you want me to do, but its wrong"

And there we have the point that none of you have even come close to, lol.

This is about Religous Ideas Verses Religous Belifes.

Not about; is religoun a good think or bad thing.

Religous are just an exuse for humans to explain the unexplainable, which is impossible, becasue you cant test or prove any thing about religious belifes, and thus you need a more fluid theolgy, one not bound by rigoud rules, but one that can change and grow with technology and humanity.

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Maybe there is a more simple definition:

religion is the early anticipation of death

(as all religions lead to the question what will be after you end your existence)

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