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Disturbing isn't it.

Then you add in the other integer to the equation... Every round coming out of the business end of those gatlings, are of the depleted uranium variety.

Extra thumb anyone?

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Whoa..... I've seen those guns in movie's and such but never like THAT before!

Awesome =D

I'm also going to ignore what Wolferz said, since i consider it rubbish

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*sigh* what he said is not rubbish... they do use DU rounds on miniguns... look it up, and play nice. you have something against the man, talk it out in private.

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Here we go. Hey, we discussed it before. You don't like guns, have problems with military, stay the ... out of these threads. Don't hijack it for people who actually are fond of them, alright.

It's like going to the gun range and yelling at the people there that all weapons are evil. Or going to the Harley guys hang out and telling them their bikes suck. You know what would happen to you? So please, don't polute this thread with loud minority opinions, and let us be to have fun, at least here.

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quote:


Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

Ahh...nice video. Now if they only had some footage of that being used on people...hmm...love.


There was a video out on the web not too long ago that showed the 40mm cannon in action from a C-130. They were supposedly attacking a cell of terrorists in Ashcanistan. It showed some Jihadists being obliterated into much smaller pieces, coupled with the audio of an Alabama Redneck on the trigger, screaming "DANG!" everytime a round found it's mark. They hit several vehicles and a building in the compound, which also obliterated into much smaller pieces. Not my intention to hijack the thread with social commentary, but some people are really sick puppies if they enjoy death and destruction on this scale.

I bet dollars to donuts that all of those who think the weapons of war and their effects are cool, would hurl their MRE's the first time they get someone else's guts splattered all over them.

War isn't a game and the weapons aren't toys. You little boys who think it's cool to rip people to shreds need to go see a doctor for some serious cranial rectotomy.

Yeah I know, why am I *****in at you guys?

It's just the microencephaly being suffered by our youth, who are bombarded with this type of thinking from birth to military draft age.

I have plenty of cheese to go with your whine after you are drafted and forced to obliterate other human beings with these really cool weapons.

Go ahead, Be all that you can be. That is if all you want to be is a legalized murderer.

"Helm"

"Aye sir"

"Prepare this post for seperation from the thread."

"Aye sir."

"Seperation protocol complete,awaiting the order."

"Stand by."

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Hey, I'm not saying I want to be there. I'm just saying it would be pretty funny to watch some of them get turned into giblets. Ogrish would be such a great site if it wasn't for all the spyware and whatnot.

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quote:


Originally posted by DocHoliday:

I can't see the movie. Is there an alternate link?


Try this one Doc...

Wimp.Com

There are some really funny videos on that site.

They don't list which player is required. My guess would be Quicktime.

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Killing terrorists, and killing people is two different things, so don't confuse the issues.

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I know what you're trying to say, but as you put it it seems as if terrorists are not people?

Cheers,

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quote:

Originally posted by DocHoliday:

I know what you're trying to say, but as you put it it seems as if terrorists are not people?

Cheers,

Terrorists are NOT people, they are animals, as soon as you TARGET innocent civilians, you are no longer given the respect given to people. Once you target innocent civilians, you are just a mad animal that must be put down, in any way shape or form possible.

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LOL, riiight.

What does that make a soldier who kills a civilian and who was made to believe it was a terrorist, but was instead .. an innocent civilian?

War criminal, terrorist-animal?? I think not.

Double standards are a dangerous path.

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quote:

Originally posted by DocHoliday:

LOL, riiight.

What does that make a soldier who kills a civilian and who was made to believe it was a terrorist, but was instead .. an innocent civilian?

War criminal, terrorist-animal?? I think not.

Double standards are a dangerous path.

As soon as you TARGET Innocent civilians, what part of "TARGET INNOCENT CIVILIANS", do you not understand?

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A soldier doesn't target civilians. When civilians get killed in a war zone, they are a casualty of war, soldiers go through more pains than you can imagine to avoid injuring or killing civilians, they even give their lives if that prevents killing innocents. So please Doc, like I said, don't irritate people with this rubish, trying to confuse the issues, like the socialist democrats here do. Terrorists are not missguided (actually they have better guidance then the college students at top universities do, flip floping on their majors without goals in life), they are not stupid (they know exactly how, when, and where to get what they want done), they do have reason, the only thing is, their reason is so different from yours that there's no hope of communication because niether you nor him will understand the others view point.

But you know what, to break it down for a european to understand (no offense). If you find a mangled body beyond recognition, and you start talking, and somehow the body makes noise, and talks back, and you undertand what it says, and you find it it's a man, do you consider it human? Im sure you do, because you understand what it says, you understand that it's a human being who has been hurt, therefore the brain, the reason that goes on is what makes that form human.

Now you talk to the terrorist, and he keeps yelling how Allah is great, and he must kill all around him, even other arabs who believe in Allah but from a different sect. He tells you how he will mutilate them, cut off their heads, blow them up, tear them to pieces and sings happys songs as he does it. Is he human? He sounds worse than an animal. He is not on even on the same plane of reason that 90% of the world is, even animals don't reason like him (animals will kill you for dominance, territory or food). So Doc, I brought it down to your level of philosofical disscussion. Now please, lets not degenerate this thread any further. It's simple, weapons are machines, they are impressive machines because of the power they have physically and otherwise. If you don't like them, then keep it to yourself and go protest outside a gunshop, or maybe you should go protest outside the prison where the killers who used those weapons are, after all, wouldn't that make more sence?

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By the way Doc, don't take offense at me saying that I brought it down to your level of discussion. I had to explain it to you like I would to a child.

I don't blame you, I blame the socialist upbringing. See, the way they raised you is by telling you that everyone is equal, and you are no better then the person next to you in line, you are a part of the team that's all, just another link in the chain. They have destroyed your identity by telling you that, and they have also tried to leave your cognitive abilities underdeveloped, because they want you to treat what they say as the ultimate truth. I know all that because I came from Russia, and they have tried to do the same thing to me. That's why you believe that every human being is the same, and that all are equal (even the criminal trash on the streets), and that the social wellfare is good and fair (even for those who don't contribute to it) and all deserve equal rights, even criminals, murderers and terrorists. You see, without them brainwashing you like this from birth, socialism would never work, because people don't want to work and have what they have earned taken away, it's so very simple and primal, people want to achieve for themselfs, not to share with the bum on the corner, the sharing with the bum comes from good heart when you are already happy with what you have ahcieved for yourself.

The logic that everyone is not the same actually holds true, and it's so primal that it screams at you, you would have awakened that simple knowledge from birth (were you not raised in a socialist society), but it's still in you, and that's why you know perfectly well that terrorists are not the same, just like a mad monkey that keeps killing other monkeys in it's group.

See how simple it is, and why I say for a european to understand, and down to your philisofical level?

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Wolferz, just one reply, than we're back on track. I unwittingly actually hijacked this thread...

Well I'm going to let that "down to my level" remark slide, because I do agreee with you and what you understood as childish level, was actually intended as friendly poke. Notice the smileys used

Thanks for sharing on your past though, now I know a little more about you. From what I've seen your remarks are usually quite extreme and if one doesn't know you, they are all you have to work with. If you have some context it's a lot easier to see the point you're making. I don't like extremism (both good and bad direction), so I usualy play devil's advocate to people like that, trying to get them off balance, to see if they REALLY know why and what they are saying. Usually they don't, but it's still a bad habit coz they get the wrong impression about me.

As for socialism. Our version was much more subdued than the one in Russia or most of the eastern bloc. My country was not affiliated with the bloc and so our upbringing was a lot more democratic than you assume. They didn't kill my individualism. This nonesance about equality actually had the reverse effect. But they did instill in me a faith in people. Not the kind you get with religious upbringing, but just plain "all people are good for something even though it may not be apparent". Actually even though I live in a democracy I sometimes find that sheeple STILL want to hold you down for the sake of conformity. Which just pisses me off. You know the feeling.

Just one more thing I perhaps didn't make clear. People as individuals are not equal. Far from it. But they do have equal value as living creatures and inalianable rights - legal and universal. So philisophically we are the same, no matter what system brings you up. But in practice.. you said it. We can't follow that and yes: terrorists, criminals and other perverted individuals if proven beyond doubt as such, should quite simply be removed from society.

As for weapons, agreed. Remarkable machinery, innocent in itself, deadly in the hands of a person. So yeah, let's leave it at that.

So I'll ask a constructive question. I don't have access to any weapons, so bear with my igorance here. How does depleted uranium used on miniguns actually affect the target? I mean if the purpose is to kill them, I'd say a few tens of rounds do more than enough damage..? Why use it then?

Cheers,

Doc

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Depleted Uranium is almost as hard as diamonds.

Therefore, depleted Uranium tipped bullet will go through material that lead won't.

DU is used against armour etc, and because it is relatively inexpensive, compared to the advantage it gives for penetration, it is more cost effective to use it in most high caliber weapons.

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Depleted uranium is what is left over when most of the highly radioactive types (isotopes) of uranium are removed for use as nuclear fuel or nuclear weapons. The depleted uranium used in armor-piercing munitions and in enhanced armor protection for some Abrams tanks is also used in civilian industry, primarily for stabilizers in airplanes and boats.

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So what isotope are we talking about?

I assume U 238.

Since U 235 makes bombs.

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