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#1 Magnnus

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:39 AM

*this is copy pasted from a support ticket that was never answered and closed*

Hello, After seeing that Universal Combat is still updated my interest in purchasing it has been revitalized. However one thing keeps coming back to thwart my interests. I speak of DRM. I find DRM to be extremely inconvenient and frankly unacceptable. That is to say that I refuse to pay for a game that I may not be able to play in the future. For this reason I have been most interest in the disk version of UCCE, but I believe this still has SecuRom DRM. So I ask to what extent does this SecuRom limit the customer. Does it only have a CD check or does it also limit the number of installs/computers or check authenticity online periodically. If it only does a CD check I will be fine with the purchase, but if it does more than that I will not feel comfortable.

My other question is: Are you planning to release a disk version of UCCE 2.0 or will I be required to get the disk of UCCE should I want a disk, and risk not being able to update to 2.0 when/if the limited time upgrade expires.

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

View PostMagnnus, on Aug 14 2009, 03:39 AM, said:

*this is copy pasted from a support ticket that was never answered and closed*

Hello, After seeing that Universal Combat is still updated my interest in purchasing it has been revitalized. However one thing keeps coming back to thwart my interests. I speak of DRM. I find DRM to be extremely inconvenient and frankly unacceptable. That is to say that I refuse to pay for a game that I may not be able to play in the future. For this reason I have been most interest in the disk version of UCCE, but I believe this still has SecuRom DRM. So I ask to what extent does this SecuRom limit the customer. Does it only have a CD check or does it also limit the number of installs/computers or check authenticity online periodically. If it only does a CD check I will be fine with the purchase, but if it does more than that I will not feel comfortable.

My other question is: Are you planning to release a disk version of UCCE 2.0 or will I be required to get the disk of UCCE should I want a disk, and risk not being able to update to 2.0 when/if the limited time upgrade expires.

This again? Seriously?

The boxed version of UCCE uses the SecuROM disc check only. As long as you have the disc, you're fine. No limited installs or anything. If you install 2.0 on top of this as an add-on, the disc check will no longer work. Thats why you have UCCE v2.0 as a stand-alone version as well.

There no plans to release a disc version of UCCE v2.0. Want a disc? Burn it yourself. And the UCCE v2.0 stand-alone build does not use SecuROM.
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 01:49 PM

View PostSupreme Cmdr, on Aug 14 2009, 06:32 AM, said:

This again? Seriously?

The boxed version of UCCE uses the SecuROM disc check only. As long as you have the disc, you're fine. No limited installs or anything. If you install 2.0 on top of this as an add-on, the disc check will no longer work. Thats why you have UCCE v2.0 as a stand-alone version as well.

There no plans to release a disc version of UCCE v2.0. Want a disc? Burn it yourself. And the UCCE v2.0 stand-alone build does not use SecuROM.
When you say that the 2.0 stand alone build does not use SecuROM do you mean that it doesn't use any DRM?

If this is not the case and if the disk check doesn't work after upgrading the disk version of UCCE to 2.0 what protective measures are there?

Also, unless I'm missing something burning a disk of the digitally distributed UCCE wouldn't remove the online authentication and limited installs, which is the issue here.

P.S. I'm sorry if this is an annoying question, but I've searched around and haven't the information I'm seeking.

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 02:16 PM

View PostMagnnus, on Aug 14 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

When you say that the 2.0 stand alone build does not use SecuROM do you mean that it doesn't use any DRM?

If this is not the case and if the disk check doesn't work after upgrading the disk version of UCCE to 2.0 what protective measures are there?

Also, unless I'm missing something burning a disk of the digitally distributed UCCE wouldn't remove the online authentication and limited installs, which is the issue here.

P.S. I'm sorry if this is an annoying question, but I've searched around and haven't the information I'm seeking.

If you use the correct v2.0 patch for your v1.0 UCCE disc, the DRM will remain unaffected.
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 02:33 PM

View PostSupreme Cmdr, on Aug 14 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

If you use the correct v2.0 patch for your v1.0 UCCE disc, the DRM will remain unaffected.

alright, thank you.




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