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...and OTHER marijuana flavored candy"?

I will never be outta work in this country..

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Hey Race, why don't u take a trip to Amsterdam so u may take a look at cops smoking a joint ? Gives a nice insight about relativity. BTW, Holland exhibit one of the lowest addict rates to hard drugs among developped countries...


Nomad, Ill give you an example how they deal with DRUGS here in the U.S.

They put 50 year old woman I know on Serequel. She suffered PTSD while witnessing an extreme and horrendous act.

The mother, of the children she had babysitted since birth,had stabbed her own children to death.

This drug, induces sleepiness at inopportune times without warning. she had a car accident. This broke her spine.

They gave her a pain medication,The later told here she was also manic-depressive(bipolar) because the pain medication did not do the job in stemming the neuralogical pain... So they gave her more meds; Two for bi-polar, and Another for nerve damage.

(These COPS, can't seem to find REAL drug dealers maybe its because THEY are responsible for putting the drugs on the street in the first place...who REALLY knows?)

So, this low life COP meets this woman, at the convienent store, and befriends her. It takes him TWO years of being this woman,s "So Called FRIEND " and to successfully talk her out of TWO pain pills(one each time). Then later; because, they are a freind and claim to have a terrible tooth ache, she GIVES this guy a bottle of her extra pills(containing about 15 pills) he tried to pay her,but she said she didnt need the money. So, he throws a bill on the coffee table and leaves.

10 minutes later, they bust in her door, and she is arrested with the bill as evidence that she is a drug dealer. This is an example of the average STING operation within the DRUG WAR.

She is currantly serving time on 3 felony charges. Two 5-20 year sentences and one 20-99 year sentence for "selling " the partial bottle of pills.

She has effectively had her whole life taken from her...and it is considered JUSTIFIABLE by these brainwashed idiots enforcing the law.

Takes a REAL low life to set up a 50 year old mental patient as a drug dealer in my view...and is more common than ANY might believe...let me tell you.

Cops are affectively beyond the law...as it is now legal for cops to do things which are against the law,,,in order to arrest those who,they can intice to break the law.

It was NOT like this 25 yrs ago...but the neo-con zero tolorance mentality was not as predominant then either.

Yeah COPS are there to enforce the law, but what mentality can justify breaking rule of law, to accuse and convict others of the same?

Oh Yeah..BUSH-WAR-ITES...are doing it internationally...why NOT do it at home.

Just wait until the good ole WAR on TERROR reaches this plateu...or maybe it already has.

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Street, you and I are freqently on the same side and I agree that entrapment happens, but trust me when I say that isnt the indicative of the types of people I work with. Oh yea and Amesterdam? was there in 1982, been there done that...however you may want to check the veracity of your statment on addiction rates as they are not what you characterized them to be..asks some oh the folks on this board who LIVE there and thye may have a different story.

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Originally posted by STREET

Oh Yeah..BUSH-WAR-ITES...are doing it internationally...why NOT do it at home.Just wait until the good ole WAR on TERROR reaches this plateu...or maybe it already has.


ROFLMAO!!! Street, it's downright hysterical how you need to illustrate your obsession with this topic regardless of its utter irrelevance to the topic at hand.

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well poeple have different ways of hijacking threads... what street said has nothing to do with the topic, he just used it as an excuse to go on a political rant... theres a forum for that you know

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well poeple have different ways of hijacking threads... what street said has nothing to do with the topic, he just used it as an excuse to go on a political rant... theres a forum for that you know

You can call it a hijack, and denounce its relationship to the thread; however, that would be a matter of individual interpretation, as is with anything considered relevant to ANY conversation.

And I assure you there is DIRECT correlation in the methodology of the "DRUG WAR", and its dilution of American rights...AND that of the "WAR on TERROR", and it's accomplishments at achieving the same.

Here are some links ALSO relevant to the conversation, in that they apply to the whole concept of wheather or not CHOICE in pot flavored anything is acceptable. Or whether we have any CHOICE at all, about anything relevant to personal lifestyle at all....:

There is more than current Law, and morality issue involved in this article..but it definately touches very strongly upon these socialogical issues...maybe the thread is placed in the wrong catagory..have you even considered that...based on the content of the story?

AND as for ADDICTION...that is pure bull puck propaghanda.

there is NO addiction proven with Marijuana..AT ALL!!

http://www.studyworld.com/newsite/ReportEs...arijuana-94.htm

http://webcenter.health.webmd.netscape.com...ntentSRC_nsmain

http://www.normal.no/txt/heal01.htm

http://webcenter.health.webmd.netscape.com...ntentSRC_nsmain

I apologize, if everything is'nt as black and white to me, as with some...but i have seen demonstrated repeatedly that the interpretation is easily redefined, based on the views of the interpreter..and the presentation they choose to offer.

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No need to apologize for your beliefs. But your obsession does seem a bit - obsessive.

Anyway, imo, you are 100% correct about the addictiveness (or lack thereof) of marijuana. Not that I have any experience or anything. Nope. Not me. No way.

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On this Street and I actually agree.

THe war on drugs is STUPID....

It has given the police far too much power, and they can and do break the law and our liberties at a whim.

I have heard stories and witnessed one story just like this.

We ought to just legalize them all and let Darwinism sort it out.

The fed's need to quit protecting people from themselves. within 10 years it won't be a problem anymore, because the addicts and idiots will have killed themselves off.

Oh, and Marijuana, I would MUCH rather deal with stoned people, then drunk people....

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Too great a preponderance of money and power tied up in the war on drugs. Democrats and Republicans... , only two major political forces in this country. Anybody feel like we've been jerked around for a looooooong time?

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Very interesting stuff from Netherlands. You will excuse me if I am as dubious about thier government generated reports as you probably would be if you read any thing on the NIDA site.

I would also point out that geographic, social, cultural and political deiffernces between a country of 15 million and one of two hundred fifty million is clear even to the biggest pot head in the world.My main problem with legalization is I trust the gov and corporate america less than the people currently running the drug trade. Have you seen the commercials that have for viagra? Can you even IMAGINE the one they would have for Weed?

We live in a consumer driven economy that would prey on those who cant take care of themselves and that scares the crap out of me.

Add to that , two biggest indicators of eventual drug addiction are biological predisposition and age of onset and mix it in with legalized pot etc..well I'm not complaining , I'll always have a job. But no one who has children should feel safe or think that THIER kids are the ones who arent drinking or smoking pot. And while this is purely anecdotal not one resident in the program I work for who is addicted to heroin or cocaine, started out using that substance, ALL of them started with pot or alcohol, the gateway drug. The pot flavored lollipop is just another symptom of the cancer of mass consumerism and irresponsible business practices that promote it.

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Originally posted by LostInSpace:

Why would anyone want to eat something like that. If the flavor is anything like it smells, bleh.

Why would anyone put a cigarette in their mouth. If the flavor is anything like it smells, bleh!!

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

Very interesting stuff from Netherlands. You will excuse me if I am as dubious about thier government generated reports as you probably would be if you read any thing on the NIDA site.

I would also point out that geographic, social, cultural and political deiffernces between a country of 15 million and one of two hundred fifty million is clear even to the biggest pot head in the world.

Race, your point has some merit. I would also point out, as others have, that our war on drugs is a complete and abysmal failure and has actually added to the problem.

If for no other reason than this we should, as a society, and a nation try something else. If it is broke then fix it dammit. Trouble is that there is so much monetary and political inertia to our nationwide enforcement and policy making that no one really wants the system to change. As far as making drugs legal or decriminalizing them, I think that separation of hard from soft and making the top emphasis on treatment and prevention(which is worth a pound of cure), is a worthwhile strategy to emulate. It also makes logical sense whereas the war on drugs does not.

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Originally posted by Race Bannon IV:

My main problem with legalization is I trust the gov and corporate america less than the people currently running the drug trade. Have you seen the commercials that have for viagra? Can you even IMAGINE the one they would have for Weed?

Again, I agree with the trust issue. In fact my statements above stem from that mistrust. As for the commercials, there should never be any for any drug including alchohol, and nicotine. I am very saddened by hard alchohol companies being allowed to advertise on tv again. The brain washing is just getting going here.

BTW, cool name.

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Originally posted by jamotto:

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Originally posted by LostInSpace:

Why would anyone want to eat something like that. If the flavor is anything like it smells, bleh.

Why would anyone put a cigarette in their mouth. If the flavor is anything like it smells, bleh!!


Well I smoke menthols and they taste just like menthol (like a christmas candy cane).

Besides, you are talking tens of minutes to hours (depending on the size of that sucker) where as a cig or a joint usually only lasts minutes before it's gone. Sucking on a cig or weed flavored sucker for that length of time should turn anyones stomach.

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You make good points, but their is no country on Earth, except maybe Japan , that is as easily manipulated by media aka adevertising. I think the political issues you discussed would be tainted by this element of our culture.The fact that someone would WANT to market a product that tastes like something illegal tells me that consumerism will not allow an idea like decrimnalization to work in this country. In this case, it is greed not idelogy that interferes with pragmatism.

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Lost I have to agree with you. I have to say back in the day when I was young and foolish, I certainly didn't do things for the taste of it!

Well mabey fireball shots..fireball shots were quite tastey. Now all I can do is throw a hotball into a cup of water and remember.

Pot was never a favorite of mine, way to mello for a gal like me. I think the idea of pot flavored candy is stupid.

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someone (street) doesn't seem to like cops much.

I am a detective in the narcotics department here.

We don't do stings though, but they are highly effective. Also comparing notes with some of my counterparts, RCMP, and DEA, I don't like sometimes how they operate.

I believe a sting operation against a small time dealer unless it is part of a larger operation to take down his supplier is a waste of time. Time for everyone and resources.

I only get excited over a couple thousand pounds of seizures, never small time arrests.

I tell the drug "dealers" all the time, look at your house compared to the house of the person your selling for. They never get it.

Anyway I believe all police should just retire and leave the world to itself or the army. SO when you break the law, they just shoot you on site. And if you complain about it on an internet message board they come at your house and shoot you too.

You know what it is when the smallest offence takes months to prosecute? That ain't justice that's a farse.

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Originally posted by Prez:

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Originally posted by STREET

Oh Yeah..BUSH-WAR-ITES...are doing it internationally...why NOT do it at home.Just wait until the good ole WAR on TERROR reaches this plateu...or maybe it already has.


ROFLMAO!!! Street, it's downright hysterical how you need to illustrate your obsession with this topic regardless of its utter irrelevance to the topic at hand.


Street should just put in a new Sig, and be done with it, here I'll help you out Street.

Street's New Sig

Anything that EVER happens, you can be sure that BUSH and his WAR-CONSIPRACY Had something to do with it. They either profited from it, Stole from it, or Killed it, so no matter what this topic is, if it has anything bad, it's Bush's Fault, if it has anything Good, it's because the Loving Democrats by the Grace of God came to our rescue!

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Originally posted by Cruis.In:

someone (street) doesn't seem to like cops much.

That's because you're part of Bush's War-Conspiracy.

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Street's New Sig

Anything that EVER happens, you can be sure that BUSH and his WAR-CONSIPRACY Had something to do with it. They either profited from it, Stole from it, or Killed it, so no matter what this topic is, if it has anything bad, it's Bush's Fault, if it has anything Good, it's because the Loving Democrats by the Grace of God came to our rescue!

You know, I feel obligated to point out that SC doesn't want us posting to people who have been banned, but I gotta say this is GREAT!

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I like street and to be honest it bothers me that he got banned. He adds a lot of color to these forums and you 'd think by now that folks would be used to his "style" and wouldn't take any of it personally.

I have some strong disagreement from time to time with things people say, but I don't feel the need to silence them. Life is too short.

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