Derek, Talking about civility, one way to stave off having to reply with RTFM is to place a warning in the description of the New Commanders forum. Something like "We highly suggest reading the fine manual (RTFM)and / or using the search function at least once before posting in this forum." That way they won't get hit cold with "RTFM!" type replies. You may even want to highlight the newbie area (change the color of the title to green, or whatever). The idea of two sites, one for newbies and one for vets really sounds like the way to go in the long run if you can pull it off without a lot of hassle.