Sunanta

(Running 1.0.0.8 RC24 with the probe speed update) I can't seem to get shuttles to RTB after they've deployed their mining drones without going through an extra, unrelated step. **DELETED** [ 11-10-2002, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: Supreme Cmdr ]

quote:Originally posted by Dragon Lady: If I have to identical objects (doesnÔÇÖt matter what they are, so long as they are identical) then the property of location (which is much more physical than doubt) would have to be the same, and thus no two entities could be identical, completely erasing the possibility of identical entities from existence. That is exactly what I'm saying--it is indeed impossible to have two identical yet discrete entities. When I say "identical," I mean "the same entity" anyway, so this isn't actually a problem, though it initially appears otherwise. If the brain and the mind are identical, they would share all properties, including location--they would be the same object (that is to say, identical). If not the brain but the electrochemical process that occurs in the brain is the mind, then they, too, are the same object (or "process," rather, in this instance). Again, according to the dissimilarity of the diverse, if two entities are distinct then one has at least one property the other does not--that is to say that if two entities are not the same entity then one has at least one property that the other does not. Since all physical processes and structures and combinations thereof have a property that the mind does not (again, doubtability), the mind cannot be identical--the same--as any such physical entity. [ 10-02-2002, 05:24 AM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

durnit...my last post didn't seem to trigger the "new posts" lightbulb--perhaps because it's the 99th post? But anyway... I still am curious as to what was meant by "inclusive," as well as how the rest of my previous post logically evaluates.

quote:Originally posted by Dragon Lady: Again, stating that entities with the same properties are identical, when interpreted inclusively, is not the same as say entities with different properties cannot be identical. Thus, again, you logic is flawed. You have not refuted my argument, only restated yours. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "interpreted inclusively." The definition of "inclusive" in the Merriam-Webster's dictionary that seems to fit the bill here states that it is "comprehending stated limits or extremes." As I qualified my statement "only entities with the same properties are identical" with the word "only," it seems to me that the parameters I've established do not allow for you to claim that two things with different characteristics are identical. I'd appreciate some clarification here. For good measure, however, I'll throw in the following principle that seems to support my position more explicitly--according to the dissimilarity of the diverse (my knowledge of philosophy and logic is rather limited, so don't anyone construe this spouting of principles to mean that I know what I'm talking about, but back to the dissimilarity of the diverse...); if two entities are distinct then one has at least a single property that the other does not. As the mind lacks a property that every physical part or process has--doubtability, it is therefore distinct from them. [ 09-26-2002, 01:38 AM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

I meant to get back to this thread, but I seem to have forgotten--shucks. The post I want to respond to is way back on the second page, so here's the relevant part: quote: Logical flaw here, you say that entities with the same properties are identical, but this is inclusive, it in no manner prevents entities with different or divergent properties from being identical as well. Furthermore, this does nothing to prove the immateriality of the mind, only to ÔÇ£proveÔÇØ that the mind and brain are not absolutely identical. I will postulate that the brain is the mechanism though which your consciousness works, and your mind is the bioelectrical reaction that is going on at the time. This nicely distinguishes between the two sufficient for them to be considered separate entities as your ÔÇ£proofÔÇØ requires. First, I said that only entities that have the same properties are identical, thus entities with different divergent and/or otherwise different properties are not identical. Secondly, this "proof," as it was called, also distinguishes between the electrical activity and the mind, as electrical activity, too, can be doubted. Anything that is not logically deduced from self-evident propositions can be doubted, and that includes every anatomical and physiological aspect of our bodies.

My shot at the immateriality of the mind: It is logically possible, however actually (from an empirical perspective) improbable, that I (that is to say, my "mind") am not my brain, and that neither my brain nor my body exist. It is not logically possible to doubt my existence. (I think, therefore I am--Descartes) Therefore, my brain and I have different properties--my brain has the property of "doubtability" and I do not. Only entities with the same properties are identical. (Identity of Indiscernibles--Leibniz) Therefore, my brain and I are different entities. [ 09-16-2002, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

Will future games support it?

Intruders?

The pics look fine--I think that the reason you may be thrown off is because the ship doesn't cast a shadow on the ocean or seabed that would help you perceive its altitude relative to them. I don't recall objects ever casting shadows in that manner in BCM, so this may be something you just need to get used to. [ 08-06-2002, 03:48 AM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

I believe that those castes will be of greater significance in multiplayer. For now, they just influence how other castes react to you (I think) and restrict your access to certain ships.

1. He just deserves to die. [ 08-02-2002, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

quote:Originally posted by Remo Williams: Here is a quote from one of the greatest scientist of our time. "The evidence of god is everywhere we look." Albert Einstein But of course he didn't know squat right! He was indeed a wise man. Wise enough to distinguish between the complementary studies of faith and physics. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein.

quote:Originally posted by DREADA: Several great scientists have in the past cast doubt on his ideas and have introduced the possibility that biblical explanations, though far-fetched according to 'limit-loving' western thinking, are not completely inconceivable.And several great philosopher have cast doubt on the very existence of one's own body and all of reality. In the same spirit of those scientists, of course. quote: Oh and btw if you do look deep enough your science-dictated-reality, also requires faith, not so dissimilar to Religion/God, huh? I wonder why is that? Science is all about probabilities, hence it requires no faith. That brings up a new problem, though--that means science doesn't really explain anything at all. That's why it will never supplant religion. [ 07-01-2002, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]

quote:Originally posted by Menchise: What I'm saying is that there is an intrinsic sense of a basic morality...Indeed, if basic morality was a learned behavior, moral standards throughout the world would vary wildly. But that is not quite the case. Murder is almost universally frowned upon, for example. quote:Originally posted by $iLk: I believe that human nature is an instinct for humans to do what is in their best interests, a survival trait....In addition, a basic, intuitive morality is a significant evolutionary advantage (e.g. reciprocal alturism), so there is no reason why it wouldn't be innate. [ 06-29-2002, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Sunanta ]