OK I again followed the how to and the helps and I found that I needed to not only remove V2 but defrage after removing all leftovers from the install. I now have V8 and need to go to V9 BUT I noticed that here is a "BC3K209WIN.zip" patch also??? Should I try it or the regular one?? I am making a complete backup of V8 before I do a thing. Thanks for the help on this patch stuff. Mac/FATTS