Grand Theft America

[Supreme Cmdr]

Has anyone seen this? Someone just sent it to me via email. Color me shocked.

And I swear, the first person who tells me that this was already discussed, is going to get

[Guest]

I am going to take a closer look at this and investigate it a bit, but in all honesty, it sounds like a bunch of Democrat propaganda to me.

But, I will give it a fair shake and see what I can find out.

The Dem's still aren't over the fact that Gore lost.

And looking at the rest of the Country, and the amount of Dead people that voted for Gore, there is plenty of mud to splash around.

[Steve Schacher]

Probably a bad join in some offshore programmer's query.

[Grizzle]

Politics as usual. I don't think anyone can honestly state that this is still a country governed of, for and by the people. That stopped a LONG time ago.

[Wolferz]

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Originally posted by Grizzle:

Politics as usual. I don't think anyone can honestly state that this is still a country governed of, for and by the people. That stopped a LONG time ago.

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I concur and I have been telling everyone I know about this flabbergasting flim flam of the Electoral Process and the American people.

It's a serious conundrum. They got away with it this time and who knows how many times in the past. This year, it doesn't even matter. The Pirate bastages will have one of their sock puppets in DC regardless.

[Guest $iLk]

That's an awful lot of flash accusations without offering any sources.

[Mano Faber]

Read about this in Michael Moore's : Stupid White Men. Maybe not unbiased but interesting anyway.

United States Commission of Civil Rights:

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch1.htm

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm

It has a lot of newspaper sources (Washinton Post, Newyork Times, The Nation, LA Times). This is from 2001 you'll have better books now i guess.

[street228]

Most people, who follow a right wing political position, do NOT accept, the reality of consequence which will follow,concerning this situation.

They seem to forge their opinions, based on the bias, of a given CURRENT political stance;thus, Forgetting, the eventuality, that roles DO, in fact, reverse in the political arena.

Our ENTIRE population, would do well, to throw political polarity away, and take note:

This situation in florida, is NOT purely an offense toward DEMOCRATS, imagined by the Democratic party, but an offense to EVERY American, and our ENTIRE electorial process. An OFFENSE, to our perception, that WE are a nation, standing on GREATER freedom, than those dictators which control the outcome of their corrupt political processes.

Though aware, and persistant, in my own understanding of that which transpired in Florida; Even I, have had this situation overshadowed by BUSH's more recent atrocities(i.e.the agression of the U.S. on a country who was NO immediate threat to us). This,is something, which is most likely the case with almost every American.(sad, but most likely true)

And those who continue to ignore the revelance of this situation, are the same, who continue to ignore the revelance, that there were NO WMD in Iraq, and Ther were NO ties to 9/11, in regard to this administration's rush to WAR in Iraq.

The danger, in ANY political group, to condone, support, and to ignore such action(even by their own party) is overwhelming. As there are NO GUARANTEE, their party members will be able to hold such offices indefinately.

There is a 100% chance, control will shift, and their own party will suffer for it.

If, in fact, the control does NOT shift. We have become, nothing more and nothing less, than a DICTORIAL controlled political system.

THIS is the DANGER presented: To REPUBLICAN, and DEMOCRAT alike!! And THIS was a major contribution, for MY personal and radical swing, from a 25 year republican stance, to a very conservative democratic stance, which I firmly maintain this day.

GOD help us all..is right...We're certainly going to NEED it!!

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[Guest Shingen]

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And those who continue to ignore the revelance of this situation, are the same, who continue to ignore the revelance, that there were NO WMD in Iraq, and Ther were NO ties to 9/11, in regard to this administration's rush to WAR in Iraq.

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Not to start this whole crap again, but there was and is WMD in Iraq. Hell, the U.S. taught the guy how to make them fer Christ's sake.

There was also a clear link to Iraq in regards to Sept 11th and Osama Bin Laden,

Where do you get your facts from? CNN??

I also think that the votes for the 2000 election were most probably forged. They've been forged since 1776! The American people have never in the entire history of the U.S. ever elected a president to office that wasn't designated to be there by the "powers that be".

It's naive to think that those with unlimited power and wealth would not engineer the elections of the greatest nation in the world.

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[street228]

belileve what you will shingen....I do a WHOLE lot of reading, and many assumptions, are merely that.

There is a LOT of slanted or (YELLOW JOURNALISM) on the web too.

WRITE YOUR CONGRESSAN(doesnt matter which party)and ask him point blank 1) did they find WMD 2)is there a connection with ALQUEDA. then get back with me, but not to take this off topic. ASK for verificatiion as to the facts presented from the original post link. YOU may be enlightened...how much you could learn truth, from presented truth.

I have over 50 letters from my senator, alone, on my desk at home. I have the CORRECT answers.

I ask very direct questions, and get very direct answers. My representative, congressman, and senator are ALL republican. AND THEY ALL have verified WHAT I SAY IS TRUE!!

[echo]

hmm congresswonam huh?

"It's not what you know it's who you b....." Oh wait that was Clinton!

I think when all is said and done all elections are fixed.

Isn't it true that even if a state votes for a candidate the electoral vote can be different?

I could be wrong but I thought I learned that a long time ago.

[street228]

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Isn't it true that even if a state votes for a candidate the electoral vote can be different?

I could be wrong but I thought I learned that a long time ago.

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yes, but it has ONLY happened 4 times in history, and NEVER so close as that which caused the swing in florida. And NEVER, because a partisen biased official denied citizens the RIGHT TO VOTE. This was a FIRST, and though I voted for bush(something, I personally regret) I abhore, the methodology the party used. I assure you, this will NOT be repeated, and will be closely monitored throughout this coming election.

wait and see.

[weegee_101]

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Originally posted by Jaguar:

I am going to take a closer look at this and investigate it a bit, but in all honesty, it sounds like a bunch of Democrat propaganda to me.

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Yea... here we go agreeing again Jag...

While I do consider myself a Democrat (but a moderate swaying between liberal and conservative one at that; aka an "Old" Democrat) this could be a little fishy. I'm looking more into it, but some friends of mine who have looked into it are finding stuff to back it up. I'll call one of them and ask them to e-mail me some links, perhaps we could all start investigating this there.