FUN Part 2: EarthCom VS Insurgent

[Rattler]

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Very Well Cmdr Wolf,

As you wish. Do you think that only EarthCom/GalCom/UFN have Nukes? There's only one difference between yours and ours. Ours aren't restricted in their use by a bunch of Diplomats who worry about the effects upon their careers, should they allow them to be used. Ours go where they are needed, and not used where they are not needed. Besides, I doubt if any of you would survive your initial useage of said wepons, as you probably would want to hang around very closely, just to see the after shock waves. So use them, as it will save me the trouble of hunting you down and "dispatching you with extreme prejudice." By the way, We're out around Sygan, if you can find your way past Mars

Looking forward to the day that we can exchange more than posturing and bantering

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Rattler

[Guest]

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Yes you are right you are not restricted in the targets you bomb, this fact is written in the blood of the inoccent that just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But that does not matter to you for they are acceptable loses in your unholy crusade against the UFN (A governing body duely elected by the very people you claim to be fighting for). Oh, how very far you have come from the man I once respected.

Alot has taken place in my absence from the home front. But I will not turn my back on my duty to the citizens of Earth. I too look forward to the day when we can mix up more than just words. For on that day we shall truely discover which is the better, the Wolf or the Snake.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetay Force

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[Charles Lindsey]

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Commander Wolf;

What corrupts us? Honor. And if honor corrupts we are corrupted absolutely.

What corrupts us? Loyalty. Loyalty to Earth and her resources and peoples.

What corrupts us? Duty. Duty to protect Earth from the mess it finds itself in now. Bungled Diplomatic relations. Those that could possibly been avoided had the UFN not been so adamant in exploring the galaxy an squandering Earth's resources in the process. And not only that it found an enemy that has no care for diplomacy.

So now we must not only save Earth from itself, but we must also save it from an enemy beyond belief. One that only sees TERRAN in it's scopes.

Rest assured CUB, when our door advances to you, you will have no choice but to ask "May I come in?".

Methinks a CUB will be bitten by a snake. Best to sup on your mother's milk some more before you go chasing snakes.

Commander Chavik

ICV Phoenix

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LOL Wolf. I don't think you offended anyone. I did manage to offend DeSylva once in the original thread. But it was all roleplay.

Keep it coming, it is fun. <G>

Charles

[Guest Ron Wallin]

AAAAHHHH, new blood.

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Karl, I'd refrained from answering your posts because T.C. had already received my wrath over the same issues. However, you just don't seem to know when you're already beaten.

1. Read T.C.'s posts. We've already proven your leader wrong. Why would the same dogma vomitting from your mouth smell any sweeter?!

2. The innocent blood you that you point out is only false propoganda your people created for Earth's masses. Only you've allowed yourself to believe the lies. So, who's worse the fool or the one that follows the fool?

3. Rattler has come a long way from the Cmdr. you once knew. He, like the rest of us, woke up and realized that the government he decide to serve was the same government betraying its own people. But you know that, don't you!? Tell me, do you dream about all the lives you've been responsible for destroying? As an Insurgent, my conscience is clear. That alone warrants the exile from my homeworld.

4. Duely elected by the people? The powers that be are so entrenched in their positions they'll never be removed. Are you soooo naive to think that the peoples vote is anything more than a symbolic act repeated out of someting other than tradition. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. You're just spitting out more dogma. Your propoganda is no good here!

5. I remind you of your duty to the citizens of Earth. A. that duty is to the citizens. Not to aliens, power hungry madmen or yourself! B. You are to serve and protect. NOT wire tap, spy, and falsely accuse! There is more but you know why you sold your soul. Perhaps one day we'll find out the price.

6. Unlike the Wolf that gives away its position with grandiose boasting, the Insurgents, like the quiet, stealthy Snake, rarely strike without first being provoked. And when we do strike, its quick, surgical, and lethal. We will take you out with a single bite and leave you to die alone!

The Raven is Watching. Check your six!

Cmdr. Akira

ICV Nevermore

Spectre, Raven

[LordDavid]

Dosen't all of this remind you of Star Wars?

The evil Empire(GALCOM) against a small(but growing) band of Freedom Fighters(us Insurgents).

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Just like the Rebel Alliance fought against the Empire because they thought that it was corrupted and evil, so are we fight against the evil Galactic Command. Just like the Rebels, our forces are outnumbered, but also like them, we are more skilled, and we are fighting for a great cause: our lives, and the freedom of all those who know right, and not the evil from the corrupted government that enslaves the poor, poor followers of GALCOM. Eventually, we will have to win, because our cause is pure and right. Just like the Alliance, so shalt we triumph over all who oppose and try to inslave us.

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Cmdr LordDavid

ICV Dark Saber

Spectre, Dark Knight

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[Guest]

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Fool? The only fools I have seen lately are those with the designation of "Insurgent" in front of their names. For it is a sad day indeed when you "Rebels" are so blinded by your own self serving rhetoric to the point that you are no longer willing to listen and hear the truth. Yes I guess it is better to be delusional and believe you are right than to open your eyes and see the true evil you have committed.

Regardless of what you have told yourselves, democrocay is alive and well on Eath; of course, there are problems as with any thing but the people vote for their leaders. And who elected you, the Isurgents? Oh yes, I forgot you are the self appoint saviors of the poeple of Earth. Wake up rebles if the citizens of Earth needed any saviors they will elect them into the UNF.

Yes, you would like to believe we are the "Evil" empire that would fit so nicely into your small world and thus justify the things you do. But unfortunately that isn't so, we are not an evil empire ran by power mad men. We are a democratic republic, with officials elected by the people of that government. Oh how easy it must be to have a difference of opinion with someone and instead of taking the chance on losing the debate fair and square you would rather cut the man's throat so he can't debate you anymore. Make no mistake you are the criminals.

You murder, bomb and terrorize good and innocent people. Your leader, Rattler said it himself, "Do you think that only EarthCom/GalCom/UFN have Nukes? There's only one difference between yours and ours. Ours aren't restricted in their use by a bunch of Diplomats who worry about the effects upon their careers, should they allow them to be used." So it's perfectly fine to nuke the orphanage that a government diplomat is visiting? No one is safe from your righteous wraith. Sounds like a terrorist to me.

And yes Diplomats do worry about there careers because if they don't do a good job then they will lose that job and be voted out by the people that voted them in.

Guess what, I agree with you totally when you say you move quiet and stealthy. How else can one come out of the shadows long enough to aim a blaster at a mans' back and take the life of a elected official. If you disagree with the message kill the messenger. Sounds like a murderer to me.

And what do you really know of duty and honor. You took a sacred oath when you joined Galcom didn't you? If you really knew what duty and honor was you would have worked within the system to resolve any concerns you might have had. But instead, you blindly listen to the first insurgent recruiter that comes along and tells you that it is better to destroy what you disagree with than to work for a change. So you abandon all that you swore an oath to and ran off into the night. Yes, sounds like a traitor to me.

Even now I realize that I am talking to unreasonable and untrustworthy men; therefor, a waste of my good breath. Enough of talking. Rebel scum know this, history is always written by the victors of a conflict.....I will make sure you are never remembered.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetay Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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Bring it on! I can debate 4, 5 or more at a time.

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[Rattler]

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err... Cmdr Wolf,

I must remind you that I mentioned Nukes only after you THREATENED using them first, and on the Insurgency. If you insist in quoting me, have the decency to do it right! But I forget, that's the UFN way isn't it . You are correct, history will be written by the victors. Just one little reminder though. If you guys win, there's no victory, just a continuation of wrongfull possession and useage of assets and resources. Least you forget the history that the people will not forget. They have long memories, unless you find a way to erase the history that has already been written. You speak to me of Duty and Honor? I neither have the time nor the patience to attempt debate with one so closed minded as yourself. Matters such as this are best settled on the "Field of Honor." Do you feel qualified to visit these Hallowed Grounds. This remains to be seen, but should you find your way there, We of the Insurgency will most certainly greet you at the gate. Most of us already have the key to enter there, so it's up to us to show you the way in.

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How's that Cmdr Wolf

Rattler

[LordDavid]

Wolf, as long as we are talking about comparing this to Star Wars....

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You said "But unfortunately that isn't so, we are not an evil empire ran by power mad men. We are a democratic republic, with officials elected by the people of that government."

If you dig deep into the history of the Empire, you will learn that it was once peaceful, but powerhungry officials corrupted it. Then those officials twisted the government so much and then finally declaired themselves Emperor! And Warmonger is a power hungry person that just wants to be your emperor and rule the galaxy for some perverse reason!

Beware! Once you realize all of this, then meby you will even come to us, and join us against the on-going tyrrany of GALCOM.

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-LordDavid

[Guest]

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Rebels, I see you are still diluting yourselves. Comparing the UFN to an ancient Terran fantasy movie. How very amusing I can't help but laugh at the lengths you'll go to justify your misbegotten cause. Now I know I am dealing with mad men. Well, fear not I will soon put you out of you misery and put the madness to an end.

Rattler I don't believe I quoted you wrong at all. I did say, if I had to, I would drop a nuke on "your" house, the key word here is "your" and you responded with, "Do you think that only EarthCom/GalCom/UFN have Nukes? There's only one difference between yours and ours. Ours aren't restricted in their use by a bunch of Diplomats who worry about the effects upon their careers, should they allow them to be used." Now to me and any other sane minded human would take that to believe that you have no inhibitions about who or what is destroyed as long as you accomplish your goals. You can not deny this for they are your exact words. Now that sounds like a power hungry person to me.

And yes you are right Rattler, it is no use talking to a mind that is so closed and blind, such as yours.

This will be settled on the Field of Honor but I fear you have even forgotten what a field of honor is and will use every low down, self serving way to win no matter the cost but what more can I expect from a snake.

You often say it is cold and lonely in space and seeing the path you have chosen I'm quite sure you know all about being cold....and lonely.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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Is this the best the Insurgents can throw at me come on, I still haven't began to get started, bring the fight on. And hey if I begin to inadvertently offend someone let me know and I will curve my attacks against the rebels known as the Insurgents. Oh I do so love a good debate.

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[Rattler]

Hehehe, I certainly hope we don't offend anyone, but if we do, Appologies Rendered in advance.

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Cmdr Wolf,

I've already told you once to accruately quote me if you are going to do so. That means tell the whole truth, if you're going to tell it at all, and I'm shocked that you even quoted me at all. What you left off in your attempt to tell the half truth was my follow on statement of "Ours go where they are needed, and not used where they are not needed." Now get it right if you are going to do it. Or is this yet another attempt in justifying your position in a corrupt government again by intentionally not keeping the masses informed of the real truth.

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Cmdr Rattler, ICV Necromancer, Spectre, Insurgent One

[Guest]

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Rattler, your entire communication seems to be in contradiction to itself. On one hand you advocate unrestricted warfare then you turn around and say you send them where they are needed. Just like a snake to talk with a forked tongue.

We could go back and forth arguing the finer points of your statements until the Sun goes nova but I see it will change nothing. The only way left to settle this is in blood and death, mostly your blood and your death.

On the subject of corruption, your precious insurgent movement is corrupted completely to the core. With the insurgents being so desperate for men and ships, the scum of the universe is flocking to your cause. Not because they believe in anything you supposedly stand for but for their own self severing reasons.

The murderers, raiders and riff raft of the quadrant will jump at any chance to create general havoc in the Terran Sector so that they can increase their own personal holdings and to line their pockets with a few extra credits and what do the Insurgent Command care, as long as they have warm bodies to command.

If you are looking for corruption stop and take a long look in a mirror and tell me what you really see. You have become the very thing you say you are against. The high moral ground you once stood on has turn to quick sand and you are quickly drowning on your own rhetoric.

Look closely at yourselves and you will see what many others have known all along. You are traitors to Galcom, you are traitors to humanity and you are traitors to your own Insurgent cause. Wake up, the dream is over.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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Is this the best you all can do?

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[Supreme Cmdr]

LOL, the funniest thing happened today. I was playing (as usual ) and went into null space in order to hide from some jackass Insurgent who had been chasing me clean clear across SOL. He had managed to hammer me good and since he can't come into null space, I decided to hide there (you can go into nullspace by flying off the map...use tacops as a guide) while I performed repairs.

Anyway, earlier, my marines had captured some intruders and thrown them in the detention hold. Due to combat damage, the DH took damage and the intruder (now an escaped prisoner type) escaped, waxed 3 marines, ran clear, clear across the ship to the launch bay.....and stole IC3.

Herein lies the rub. He chose a fine time to steal a ship and escape. I was still in null space, he had nowhere to go, so I did what comes naturally....hehe, I blew up IC3

My thinking is that our friend (low AI moron) was probably an Insurgent because only an Insurgent would try to make such a daring attempt.

Man, I wish I could've seen his face when he launched and discovered he was in null space. ROTFLMSAO.

Only in BC3K will cool stuff like this happen.

www.bc3000ad.com/images/screen_shots/photo147.jpg

[Rattler]

ROTFLMAO,

SC,

It's good to know that when an Insurgent starts kicking your butt clean across the galaxy, you had the sense to run and hide. You deserved it after needlessly attacking Rattler's Den!!

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Insurgent One to all Training Commands.....

Instruct Trainees to not go into null space. That area is Off Limits to Insurgents. Now we can't even chase our enemies, should they decide to flee instead of stand and fight

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Cmdr Rattler, ICV Necromancer, Spectre, Insurgent One

[Supreme Cmdr]

hehe, at least I didn't run to the nearest

station (which I could have)

[Guest Ron Wallin]

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Rattler, as ordered! However, we must thank the SC for that wonderful bit of tactical information. The variations to his null space maneuvers are endless.

Had the person in the IC known he was in null space, I'm sure he would not have left the ship so quickly. That is, IF he was an Insurgent. Our man's E&E training is much better than that! Plus, who in an IC, present party excluded, has much of a chance when pitting a lone IC against a BC, not to mention in the disorientation of null space. Sounds more like something a sloppy EarthCOM spy would do.

EarthCOM Spy: Ooooh! I've been caught! What ever will I do? Look, that Marine just died! I guess I can borrow an IC and fly back home... <launches IC> ...Ummm, this doesn't look familiar. BC, this Dorothy. Are we in Kansas? <IC quietly explodes>.

But we'll never know. SC, is there any chance your marines were able to get a name?

Karl, this is my glove slapping your face:

Karl, you keep repeating T.C. and yourself. You claim to be ready for anything we throw at you. Are you sure of that? From the calibre of your posts, you're nothing more than a mouthpiece. When you can post something original (i.e., something not already covered here), I'll bite back. Otherwise your repetitious blathering is wasting the Insurgents' time.

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Derek, thanx for the gameplay tip. That's a good way to lick your wounds and increase your system engineer's ai. We all know they need the experience. I wonder if you could use null space to wait in ambush? drop a probe proceed off the map and lie in wait

Guys, the note to Karl is ROLEPLAY. I personally bear no ill fealings toward him but my character does .

Cmdr. Akira

ICV Nevermore

Spectre Fleet

Raven

[Guest]

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Akira, this is a disrupter...blasting your face:

Like I said, I'm a firm believer in overkill.

Idle threats and insults will gain you nothing here. As I've stated before the time for talking has long past. Only death and despair awaits the vanquished in this deadly game, the insurgents have started.

Can you hear that......it's coming from your door.....you know what it is.....deep down you knew it would come.......but there is no running, no hiding.....for it can not be denied.....it's Death.....and it's come for you.

You rebels routinely say that you are used to being alone and cold in the deep reaches of space. Well, I plan to see just how very cold and lonely I can make you feel.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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[Guest Ron Wallin]

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Well, no one's written about shooting my face off, so I can't belittle your originallity there...

I can say that the mention of Death does nothing for me or my Insurgent friends. We have always been threatened with Death and its nothingness. Nothing new (not that I expected anything new, see my previous post)! We teach our commanders to embrace death from the begining. When you're no longer afraid of the beyond, you take risks and make accomplishments that others can only stare at with awe and wonderment.

It is what allows each and every Insurgent to fight with everything and never give up. It is what will be the end of EarthCOM. We lay our lives on the table as the first ante every time we play this game. The stakes are high EarthCOM. What are you willing to give up for Earth?

Cmdr. Akira

ICV Nevermore

Spectre Fleet

[Guest Grenville]

Take a few days off and I miss half the war...

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"who in an IC, present party excluded, has much of a chance when pitting a lone IC against a BC"

Bring it on, Akira. Hell, I'll even loan you an IC (not that I expect to get much of it back).

And Rattler, what do you mean by a needless attack on the Den by the SC? EarthCOM and GalCOM are against you and the Gammulans, you agree?

We can't subdue the Gammulans without wiping them out. That will take a lot of time and resources and may not be ethically sound (in the dictionary, under 'e', you might not have met it before).

Which leaves you. We have to keep forces in reserve to stop you stabbing us in the back while we try and do our best for mankind as a whole. The Den is target number one. The strategic situation leaves no other option.

I apologise for the lack of discipline I am displaying in rising to your rantings while the remainder of GalCOM mentains the silence one would expect from a military organisation.

Commander Grenville

GCV Revenge

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[Guest]

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Yet, again we hear the rantings and ravings of a insurgent gone mad. Teaching your rebel trainees to be suicidal in combat and to throw all military doctrine out the window; but, of course, what more can we expect from a rag tag band of marauders. So, by all means continue teaching them this, because for every one of those Hail Mary stunts, one of your commanders manages to pull off there are ten others that can attest that these tactics don't work. Ask them yourself but I think you will have a hard time getting a reply seeing that they are now with Mary.

And to answer the question, what am I willing to give for Earth? I am perfectly willing to give the lives of each and ever rebel insurgent I come across, so as you can see I am more than happy to hear, that you are all willing to sacrifice yourselves for your cause.....because I am here to collect on that offer.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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I can't believe I've missed all this fun while I was gone. And I'm just getting warmed up good.

[Rattler]

Worthwhile Enemies and Combatants, One and All. I applaud your earnest attempt at trying to get your opinions out into the light.Now, I only have one major question. You "Talk the Talk", but can you "Walk the Walk?" I believe that you have deluded yourselves into believing that you are indestructible, and invincible. Those of us who have survived real wars know the difference between self

confidence and just plain foolishness. Keep saying this to Yourselves as the missiles get closer and closer, "See, I told You it wouldn't Hurt!"

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Cmdr Rattler, ICV Necromancer, Spectre, Insurgent One

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[Guest]

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Well, well, well could not have said it better Rat. I mean Rattler. It is true those veterans know the difference between real courage and just plain bravado. And I believe the insurgents is mostly made up of bravado in order to cover up just how weak your rebel movement really is.

But all of this has been said and rehashed. It's time to see if your bite is bigger than your mouth.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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Hey I was wondering if anyone or even CIC has thought about setting up some team tournaments or will the SDF rankings cover this.

[Rattler]

I'm really glad this is Role Play, or I'd swear someone would be getting a little angry before this is over and done with . Hope everyone remembers this

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That's it Whelp. I won't even bother to call you a wolf any longer. Times over for talking, and time's approaching to see if you truely believe that Earth comes first. Your organization gave away Mother Earth's resources to other forms of life (Aliens), so I guess in their eyes, Earth didn't come first. At least you can read, or you wouldn't have been able to pilot that space craft in the beginning. But Wait, You are a member of "15th EarthCOM Planetary Force" so that might make you a ground-pounding Grunt. It might be true that you can't read, cause you sure wouldn't need to know how to fly a Battlecruiser as a Grunt. Just need to know how to die!!! To answer your question, Nope, my bite is smaller than my mouth. I only have Two Fangs, inset approximately 1/4 inch inside upper jaw line. Want to measure them to see if my statement is corect? Be my guest, but you'll have to hire a chauffer, won't you?

Next time, let your pilot do the talking, he's better equipped to enter into this fray.

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Cmdr Rattler, ICV Necromancer, Spectre, Insurgent One

No personal insult intended there Cmdr Wolf, all Role Play. I don't know about the Tournament Stuff, but I think you just gave Derek an Outstanding Idea!! That is, if he hasn't already started something just along those very lines. Only he knows right now, but I'm sure he'll remember that you brought it up Good Job

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[Guest]

Hey I don't know about the rest of you all but this thread is taking longer and longer to load, one day someone might have to start a FUN PART III .

And remember guys and gals this is just friendly fun batter between people who all play a game, that they love. Now, on the other hand it's our respective characters that hate each other guts and in that arena, there are no holds bared. And so on to the insults.

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Rattler, I would like to have a closer look at your fangs, I would enjoy getting just close enough to defang you. Because a snake without his fangs is just another big WORM.

And from all your past crimes against Humanity I have a feeling that's just what you are.

And I don't blame you for thinking I'm less then a competent commander, that knows his job and knows how to win. For I'm sure it's the only way you can sleep at night, believing that a bunch of flat footed, dim witted people are looking for you. Unfortunately for you, that is not the case, men of sound minds and iron wills are on the hunt for you and all parties involved know that it is only a matter of time before your pathetic rebellion is at an unglorified end. So sleep now while you can, and dream, dreams, that make men content and happy. For soon those sleep filled nights will be made horror incarnated and I will be your Nightmare, born.

I bid you farewell and.....a goodnight.

Karl Wolf

ECV Hammer of God

Epsilon Battle Group

15th EarthCOM Planetary Force

"When it comes down to it, Earth is first and everyone else can go to Hell."

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[Guest]

Hey I wanted everyone to know that I have no ill will toward Rattler. I think he is a really good guy. And I only debate and insult in the sense of roleplay. So if I've offend anyone here in this forum I apologize especailly if I've offended Rattler. You all are a great group of people so if I step out of line be sure to tell me. (Which I have no doubt someone will if I do.)

See you all later.

"When it comes down to it, Friends are first and everyone else can go to Hell."

[Rattler]

Cmdr Wolf,

You haven't offended me, so fire away. I was just engaged elswhere, but you are right.

Friends Come First, as well as Family. You, "My Friend", I consider part of the "BC3K Family."

Rattler