Starfighter08

Are there other similar books? If heard something about "five rings" anybody read this?

Cool. I think an expert could recognize every single move they do.

Don't know exactly which one you mean. Btw I read the German version so I think a translation could be crappy (I say this because you asked for the exact wording wich I can't provide, sorry) . Somebodey else?

This forum being a meeting place for people who are interested in many aspects of society including politics, economics, history and of course warfare (we are all commanding our own battlecruisers); I propose this thread to be about the great work written about 2500 years ago by Sun tsu about the art of war. Maybe somebody had experiences during the game he feels could be analyzed with the concepts of that book, or we could discuss how they apply to today's warfare or that of BC. Being a place where commanders and admirals can be found I assume that some of you have read that masterpiece too. If not I strongly recommend it as a step towards becoming that successful leader personality we all would like to be (or alreay are). Besides it's not just about some weird theory, it could also help you in everyday's struggles like on the job, with your wife etc. It would certainly meet the guidelines stated in the "read this first thread" and make the SC proud. Anybody interested?

quote:Originally posted by aramike: Well, from what I recall about World War 2, the ONLY reason Hitler declared war on the US is the fact that their treaty with Japan required it. You can find this at britanica.com. Of course this was the reason why he did declare war. But I think the reason why he actually dared to is the above stated. That leads me to believe that he didn't expect the Americans to show up three years later. quote:Eclipse confirmed my thinking. The fact is, Hitler did not want to fight EITHER the British or the US - it was initially searching for peace accords with the British after Hitler invaded Poland. The British did not acceed to these accords, in part because Britain and Poland were allies. Yep. But once the British did reject his offer of peace, it was clear that the war with the US would have started one day. Which also came with the Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor. The option of peace with the British and/or the US wasn't one anymore.

Originally posted by Menchise: Hitler wasn't afraid at all. In fact, he virtually dared the Americans to intervene when he declared war on them. Originally posted by aramike: I'll research that further, but I do believe that Hitler didn't want the US in the war too soon. I'll look into it. My post: I'll reply to this point with some excerpts of what I've read about Taylorism (Post-capitalist society by Peter F. Drucker ISBN 0-88730-620-9). Hitler was encouraged to declared war on the US because to field a large force in Europe a large fleet to transport troops was needed (btw the subject is quite similar to your posts in the Arley Burke/Kidds thread, only that times have changed greatly since WWII ). Additionally large quantities of precision optics were required. In 1941 the US did not have much of a merchant marine and its destroyers were few and quite obsolete. It also had almost no optical Industry. By applying Taylor's "Scientific Management", that means by applying knowledge to work, US industry trained unskilled workers and converted them in sixty to ninety days into first-rate welders and ship builders. And the same kind of people within a few months to produce precision optics of better quality than the Germans had ever built-and on an assembly line to boot. Before this Adam Smith had taken it for granted that it took a region at least 50 years to gain the necessary skills to turn out high quality products. This, more than any other factor, explains why the US was able to defeat both Japan and Germany. All the earlier economic powers in modern history -GB, US, Germany- emerged through leadership in new technology. Post WWII economic powers like Japan, South Korea etc. all owe their rise to Taylor's training. Productivity began to rise at a rate of 3.5 to 4 % compound, a few years after Taylor started to apply knowledge to work (quite impressive if you ask me; certainly an explanation for the high growth rates of 1st and 2nd world economies in the 50s and 60s). [ 06-07-2001: Message edited by: Starfighter08 ]

I like the story and graphics too. Especially good is that you don't have to win every mission, you can't even. I think that adds quite some "realism" (not to forget the anti-spacecraft gun, navigation in nebulas etc.). I still play it from time to time. Didn't use the mission editor myself but I played some of those made by other player but of course they are not like the "real thing".

"Don't you believe in coincidences?" "Well yes, but I don't trust them."

Right. But the majority of the gaming community doesn't necessarily like the same games you do. I think BC is quite a good example. OT: Sometimes I wonder if BC could borrow more from real world naval action where the pace of the game is concerned. For example I think a battle in Sirius takes more time to be resolved than it takes to actually get there from GalComHQ. I mean as far as I know the battle in the Coral Sea took a few days (?) but I'm quite sure that the carriers needed much more time to get there from Pearl Harbor. (In BC that time could be used for field repairs or mining etc.) Just my $ 0.02

I know, I just couldn't resist. Sometimes the need to be sarcastic is just too strong

Guess with today's tech, lag would be prohibitive hight. So no playing bcm with the martians, lol. This system certainly helps keeping in touch with probes, as long as it doesn't mix up yards and meters (where did I get that idea? well anyway....) [ 06-05-2001: Message edited by: Starfighter08 ]

Might I ask what the point of that rating system is and by which criteria are you rated?

It could be worse. Sometimes competitors are bought and then closed down, which is also a method to get rid of them. At least I hope they don't do that. I wonder what happens to the games that where being developed. When Hasbro bought Microprose "Birth of the Federation" was rushed and only one patch came out. Guess we will know soon enough.

Hello countryman and thanks for the advice. I've experienced the same with "Europa Universalis". BTW have you ever bought games at amazon? I wonder if that's an option.

I will be 23 in June. ------------------ Cmdr Starfighter GCV Midway "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."

Lets start with these two things: don't let teenagers get guns at all talking about sex, death etc. should not be taboo If you find these ideas to be a provocation please remember that I'm a foreigner. Just me two cents.... ------------------ Cmdr Starfighter GCV Midway "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."

So you succeded in mission 5. May I ask you where you found the Daisymae and how you captured its captain? It's quite some time I played it the last time and I forgot it. Thanks in advance ------------------ Cmdr Starfighter GCV Midway "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."