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ÔÇ£CRAWFORD, Texas - Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday that John Kerry apologize for past testimony before Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received an early exit from combat for ÔÇ£superficial wounds.ÔÇØ.......... One day heÔÇÖs saying that we were shooting civilians, cutting off their ears, cutting off their heads, throwing away his medals or his ribbons,ÔÇØ Dole said. ÔÇ£The next day heÔÇÖs standing there, ÔÇÿI want to be president because IÔÇÖm a Vietnam veteran. ÔÇ£Maybe he should apologize to all the other 2.5 million veterans who served. He wasnÔÇÖt the only one in Vietnam,ÔÇØ said Dole, whose World War II wounds left him without the use of his right arm. Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in Vietnam. Another wacko I suppose..... More..... Authors of a new book criticizing John Kerry's service in Vietnam write the Democrat took no enemy fire on the night he sustained a slight injury for which he received a Purple Heart, an injury he caused himself by firing a grenade launcher at too close a range. In "Unfit for Command," scheduled for release Aug. 15, John O'Neill, who took over Kerry's swift-boat command, and co-author Jerome Corsi explain the scratch was caused by Kerry's firing an M-79 grenade launcher too close, "causing a tiny piece of shrapnel (one to two centimeters) to barely stick in his arm." "Unfit for Command" mentions how most military personnel view the Purple Heart as an honor fit only for those more severely injured. It quotes veteran Gary Townsend, who said, "I ÔǪ turned down a Purple Heart award (which required seven stitches) offered to me while in Nam because I thought a little cut was insignificant as to what others had suffered to get theirs."

quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: If the maintenance reports match the after action, then we would have some proof that he was telling the truth, but if it got signed off as fine, then we know that he lied. Where would one obtain the maintenance records?

Typical.... I don't find it one bit surprising.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been formed to counter the false "war crimes" charges John Kerry repeatedly made against Vietnam veterans who served in our units and elsewhere, and to accurately portray Kerry's brief tour in Vietnam as a junior grade Lieutenant. We speak from personal experience -- our group includes men who served beside Kerry in combat as well as his commanders. Though we come from different backgrounds and hold varying political opinions, we agree on one thing: John Kerry misrepresented his record and ours in Vietnam and therefore exhibits serious flaws in character and lacks the potential to lead. We regret the need to do this. Most Swift boat veterans would like nothing better than to support one of our own for America's highest office, regardless of whether he was running as a Democrat or a Republican. However, Kerry's phony war crimes charges, his exaggerated claims about his own service in Vietnam, and his deliberate misrepresentation of the nature and effectiveness of Swift boat operations compels us to step forward. Senator John Kerry has made his 4-month combat tour in Vietnam the centerpiece of his bid for the Presidency. His campaign jets a handful of veterans around the country, and trots them out at public appearances to sing his praises. John Kerry wants us to believe that these men represent all those he calls his "band of brothers." For more than thirty years, most Vietnam veterans kept silent as we were maligned as misfits, addicts, and baby killers. Now that a key creator of that poisonous image is seeking the Presidency we have resolved to end our silence. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has contacted surviving members of this group to find out how many actually support John Kerry, and discovered that of 19 Swift boat skippers pictured other than Kerry, 12 consider him unfit, 4 are neutral, two have died, and 1 is working with the Kerry campaign. Four other officers were not present for the photo session; all oppose Kerry. Only 1 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Coastal Division 11 supports his candidacy today. These are people that served our country as well as Kerry and Bush. What are you going to say to them... That they are lying. Constructing a complete picture of Kerry's service is difficult due to gaps in the Naval records provided by the Kerry campaign. These gaps include missing and incomplete fitness reports, missing medical records and missing records related to his medal awards. For this reason we call upon Senator Kerry to authorize complete access to all his military records by filing a standard Form 180, a simple two-page release form. Are you going to call these guys wackos also because they want Kerry to sign the 180?

CNN: Say campaign to a computer-game addict, and he's more likely to think Alien vs. Predator than Kerry vs. Bush. But that may be about to change as The Political Machine (Ubisoft), the first major PC game to mimic a presidential election, hits store shelves this week. UBISOFT:Are you up for the challenge? Spend 41 weeks on the campaign trail, serving as a campaign manager for a presidential candidate. In an effort to secure a spot in the Oval Office, you must secure the greatest number of electoral votes and utilize the various facets of political strategy. Establish a campaign network, build capital, deliver speeches, buy advertising, fund-raise, and make appearances on national TV news programs in your efforts to master the political machine.

CNN:BELLINGHAM, Washington (AP) -- As part of a dramatic boost in surveillance of the Canadian border, federal officials Friday dedicated the first of five planned bases for regular flights to look for drug runners and others crossing illegally by air or land.

BBC:John Kerry has asked the US Federal Election Commission to put an end to TV adverts which discredit his record as a soldier during the Vietnam War.

You mean more like trying to keep the truth from being heard. If he has nothing to hide, he would sign that 180 hands down and let us all see the what's the deal.

(CNN) -- The Kerry presidential campaign on Friday filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, alleging ads from an anti-Kerry veterans' group are inaccurate and "illegally coordinated" with Republicans and the Bush-Cheney campaign.

This is one area I think women don't have a clue. They claim they can tell if you are lying, cheating etc.. But they can't tell if the bathroom seat is up or down? Give me a break. It's just another excuse of more control over the guy. When you think about it, it's pretty sad that a marriage can be rather rocky over something as simple as a toilet seat.

The chipmaker confirmed on Tuesday that, as previously reported, it has begun manufacturing chips using its new 90-nanometer process, meeting a deadline set after earlier delays. At the same time, it revealed that the first of those processors to appear in a PC will be members of a family of low-power mobile Athlon 64 chips, due to show up in notebooks in "coming months," a company representative said.

quote:Originally posted by street: quote: Are you sure? Didn't I just see someone post 'Bring it on.'" in another thread. I must of missed it....Maybe, if you post it? If he IS posting, in this forum, I'm gonna have to call his wife, and tell her. She will put a stop to THAT!! Your original statement was: uh....I really doubt, Kerry reads the threads within this forum There was nothing about posting and my response was about him reading not posting. If he is this where he got it: Jaguar: LOL, "bring it on" Takvah, let's dance.... It's the third from the last post in that thread.

quote:Originally posted by street: Why do you people feel that it is necessary to fabricate things? I remember nothing, concerning any PYGMY tribes of Africa. NOT even in the REPUBLICAN's attack machine's propaghanda. Again proving my point that you guys don't know when you are reading sarcasm or jokes even when they bite you in the glutious maximus. quote:YOUR accusations, are FALSE, and without any foundation? 2). I am not kerry, and will not fabricate false answers, to refute false accusations. Explain this. How are the accusations false. Just stating that they are false doesn't make them false. You are not Kerry is a good thing and that you will not fabricate false answers as Kerry would is another good thing.

quote:Originally posted by street: uh....I really doubt, Kerry reads the threads within this forum....but I'll pass your request on up the ladder...... Are you sure? Didn't I just see someone post 'Bring it on.'" in another thread.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: He did not lie about WMD's, He did not lie about the Danger that Saddam posed to the US via hjis support of terrorism, Bush told us everything up front. He let us know what the intelligence said and why he was doing what he was doing.They seem to keep forgetting that Kerry said the same thing over and over that Saddam was a threat long before Powell went before the U.N. with some evidence of his danger even while clinton was in office. His only dissagreement with Bush on war was the way he went about it. Kerry wanted everyone on the planet to join the war and would have balked at attacking Saddam if he didn't get the green light even from the pygmy tribe of africa. quote:Originally posted by Takvah: If this was a court of law he would have been sanctioned for leading the witness. He is ANSWERING every question he has asked.Is there a reason Kerry should be in court to answer these questions? Anyway, where do you see George Will answering his own question. George Will re-states Kerry's stance that Kerry voiced in his convention speech and other speeches and then askes the question for Kerry. Why don't you guys help Kerry out and try to answer the questions I have posted instead of degenerating into the usual Bush hate mongering. Look at the title of this thread "Questions for Kerry" not "Questions for Bush". Oh yeah, forgot that liberals can't have a single track discussion or argument without clouding the issue up with other issues to distract everyone.

Ah here's the thread I started Legacy Games. Read it and you will find some useful info. Including downling the orignal Star Flight game. Which, coincidentally, I just played again a few months ago. Like you, it's one of my old time favorites.

My pleasure. If you go to the download section there's a tech demo. I just ran it and so far the game looks pretty cool. Starflight III Tech Demo

Actually, the ANGRY KID is alot better.

quote:Originally posted by Cc: Just out of curiosity,what happened to the dudes that developed the game 'Starflight', (Binary Systems ,published by Electronic Arts ) in which in part, this game is based? SC? Well, one of them is collaborating on Star Flight 3 (a fan based game). Which doesn't look to shabby. I posted about this in another thread some time back here's the link again StarFlight III If you go to the project members sections here's one bit: Rod McConnell Consultant; Owner of Binary Systems and SF

quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: Until Kerry signs that 180 and releases his FULL military files to the public, you have NOTHING to defend him with. To bad they don't take legs and make their way to public. Hmmm, maybe Sandy Berger can do that for us.

Hmm, not one response yet. I wonder why.

quote:Originally posted by Takvah: Jaguar can you kindly give me examples from the Moore film where this occured. Here's the first example of Moore edits and splices several Heston speeches to change their meaning in bowling for columbine here's an example of editing in Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore: No congressmen have sons serving in Iraq Fact: 4 of them do, in fact one of them who shows up in the movie says Moore edited his statement so that his claim never made it into the film. [ 08-17-2004, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: LostInSpace ]

LOS ANGELES ÔÇö In another departure for Hollywood hunk Tom Cruise, the blue-eyed actor will try his hand at a sci-fi role when he stars in "The War of the Worlds."

You mean like this: the ACLU is destroying America, one Boy Scout camp at a time or this Mainstream America is reeling with absolute shock from the politically correct decision of the University of North Carolina requiring incoming freshmen to read "Approaching the Qu-ran: The Early Revelations." The book clearly is a defense of Islam that conveniently leaves out verses that call for the murder of infidels. UNC Chancellor James Moeser, defended his position of assigning the book saying, "It helps us from demonizing a whole group of people with being an enemy simply by practicing the same religion." Apparently the sacred American Civil Liberties Union doctrines of the separation of church and state only apply to Christians and Jews. How else can you explain why the North Carolina ACLU went to court to support the University of North Carolina's mandatory reading assignment of the pro-Islam book for incoming freshmen? [ 08-17-2004, 12:06 AM: Message edited by: LostInSpace ]

Source:Politicalcrossfire.com quote:George Will is an extremely gifted writer and all should aspire to his standard (especially the blow hard like Ann Coulter or Al Franken). Here's an article that rasies alot of pertinent questions for Kerry, questions he would have a hard time explaining: WASHINGTON -- Mr. Kerry, in your convention speech you threw caution to the wind and endorsed what you called ``one of the oldest Commandments: `Honor thy father and thy mother.''' Oldest? Were they not all published together? Here are some other questions: You invoke the Commandment to explain why you ``will not cut'' Social Security benefits. Does that include raising the retirement age, which Congress set at 65 in 1935, when the life expectancy of an American male was 62? Regarding military action, your platform says ``we will never wait for a green light from abroad when our safety is at stake.'' But the platform's preceding paragraph denounces President Bush's ``doctrine of unilateral pre-emption.'' If unilateralism is wrong, are you not committed to some sort of ``green light from abroad''? Are you glad that in 1981 Israel set back Iraq's nuclear weapons program with a unilateral pre-emptive attack on the reactor near Baghdad? Your platform says: ``A nuclear-armed Iran is an unacceptable risk.'' But Iran's radical Islamist regime is undeterred by diplomatic hand-wringing about its acquisition of nuclear weapons, which may be imminent. Is pre-emptive military action against Iran feasible, or are its nuclear facilities too dispersed and hardened? What would you do other than accept Iran as a nuclear power? Taiwan's President Chen Shui-bian says, ``We have reached an internal consensus that insists on Taiwan being an independent sovereign country.'' Beijing's military chief recently said Taiwan will be reunified with the mainland by 2020, the first reunification deadline ever set. On an island physically similar to Taiwan, Beijing recently simulated an invasion. Would you respond with force -- unilaterally, if necessary -- to defend Taiwan? The Clinton years were, you say, glorious because ``we were not at war and young Americans were not deployed.'' Did not the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, followed by the attacks on the Khobar Towers, the USS Cole and the East African embassies mean we were at war but were uncomprehending? Have not scores of thousands of young Americans been deployed, ashore and on ships, since 1942? You supported humanitarian military interventions in Somalia, the Balkans and Haiti. Would you intervene militarily to stop the accelerating genocide in Sudan? You say, ``I stood up and fought against Richard Nixon's war in Vietnam.'' Nixon's war? Did it start after John Kennedy put U.S. combat troops there, and after Lyndon Johnson increased the number to 500,000? The easily distressed abortion rights groups were distressed when you said that your faith teaches you what elementary biology teaches everyone: life begins at conception. But you say personhood does not. Fine. When does it? What are its defining attributes? Does, say, an elderly person with dementia have it, and hence a right to life? You oppose, on federalism grounds, a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. You say marriage law is traditionally a state responsibility. But so was abortion law for the Republic's first 197 years, until 1973. What is the difference? When the Pope said Catholic legislators have a duty to oppose gay marriage, you said he had ``crossed the line'' because ``it is important not to have the Church instructing politicians.'' Have you felt that way even when the Church has instructed politicians take liberal positions regarding economic justice, race and other matters? Your platform says, ``The price of gas is at an all-time high.'' But it isn't as measured in constant (inflation-adjusted) dollars, or as a portion of Americans' purchasing power. Do you have some other way of justifying the platform's claim? You have often said -- e.g., in Algona, Iowa, last year, when your campaign was impoverished -- that ``there's too much money loose in the American political system.'' Now your campaign is awash with money. So are the 527 groups that are supporting your campaign -- but of course without even a smidgen of ``coordination'' with it, because that would be a crime under the new campaign finance law. Do you advocate new laws to discourage the kind of people who are choosing to participate in politics through financial contributions on your behalf? You and other supporters of increased government regulation of political spending say this does not abridge freedom of speech. What does most of your spending pay for? Throwing caution to the wind, your platform insists that ``small towns are at the heart of America.'' Your sense of America's small-town heartbeat comes from where -- Sun Valley?