xp pro don't touch it !!!!

[Wolferz]

I recently purchased copies of windows XPpro for theother 2 pc's on my network, word to the wise, donot install this piece of garbage on any PC!!!

it turned milady' Pc into an $1800.00 paperweight

I am so pissed right now I could bite a STormcarrier in half.

[Kalshion]

I thought about getting Win XP Pro for this system but the salesmen told me its not a good idea for what i had in mind *smart person* So instead i bought Win XP Home Edition =) Sense then I havn't had a shread of problems with this OS

[d8alus]

So, when the seething hatred wears off, explain what it did. My bro says that xp home has security issues but that pro was better. Sooo.

***Need more input, Stephanie.***

[sradel]

Yea I am curious what the problem is also. I have been running XP Pro from RC3 and have had Very few problems with it. Some of my old software had to be upgraded from the Windows 2K version to work. But as for the games I play, they all still work, and in most cases work faster. With a dual proc system it Rocks. Hell of an improvement over any of the 9X stuff in my opinion.

[Oberst_Sloan]

There is NO difference in Win XP Pro and Home other than some security changes. The Kernel is the same.

I might suggest that any problems you are having with XP Pro is a result of older software and/or drivers which are not compatible with the OS.

XP (in BOTH flavors) is as close to rock solid as you can get in a MicroSoft OS. I have been running both since before they came out and have had nary a hiccup on either one.

As with any OS upgrade or change you should do heavy research into both the OS and your system. If you have any hardware that may need new drivers download them and have them handy BEFORE installing the new OS.

Bottom line is XP is a WONDERFUL OS and certainly better than anything that has come before it.

[Guest Remo Williams]

I wonder what went wrong wolferz? I've been using XP Pro for almost a year now and I would never go back to one of the other OS's. XP Pro works great here I've never experienced a problem with it to date. It makes networking a snap compare to the others.

[Supreme Cmdr]

quote:

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Originally posted by Remo Williams:

I wonder what went wrong wolferz?

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I was wondering the same thing myself actually

[Wolferz]

for starters. I can't remove it, now the hard drive is inaccessible. the differences between pro and home are very slight, not worth the extra money if you need tech support, forget it, there is none.

[Raven]

Well, I've had XP Pro as long as I've had this computer (almost a year now) and it works swimmingly, it's a vast improvement over NT and 98 which I have used before (I don't believe I've ever seen 2k). It's extremely stable compared to other operating systems I've used, it almost never crashes (when it does it's usually because I've left it running for a week or so). Games, especially older games, often will not work, but that is less of a problem now then it was a year ago when I got it.

[chrismoney7]

I have XP home. The only bugs arent XPs fault. Its because I have 70GB of stuff on my computer and even though I have 1024 MB RAM It cant handle all the programs I have on it.

[Supreme Cmdr]

quote:

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Originally posted by Wolferz:

for starters. I can't remove it, now the hard drive is inaccessible.

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As soon you figure out how to do a fresh install by wiping out the HDD (since its not usable anyway, according to what you're saying) and installing from scratch, you'll be fine. In fact, that is the most simplest install method.

....unless of course you don't have a machine which allows booting from a CDROM.

[Fractux]

Hence why I always keep around an old Win98 boot disk.

Go HERE to download a utility that will create a boot disk for you with basic utilities on it.

I've needed it alot recently. Finally able to get KDE to run on my Debian installation, but only as root though, and in 640x480 hmmm.... back to IRC we go...

Cheers!

[ 12-11-2002, 12:39 AM: Message edited by: Fractux ]

[Supreme Cmdr]

www.bootdisk.com has a wider selection of boot disks.

[DraconisRex]

My problem with MS-DOS, and Windows 95/98 for that matter, is that I agree with my dad. He's a programmer (mainframes,) and he said, "No operating system should ever crash. Period. That's poor programming. Programs running on it can crash, but it should never lock down the entire system -- having a guaranteed method of killing a program is an absoulte must."

MS-DOS 1.1 was the first version of DOS that I tried to use. DOS 6.22 was the last. All of them could crash by simply booting the computer. Windows 3.11 was a nightmare, but beat hell out of Windows 2 -- it wasn't compatable with itself!

Windows 98SE was reasonably stable, but you still had to reboot it every day. I had Windows XP Pro, and it was the first version that you could run for weeks at a time without having to reboot (barring program/hardware problems, of course.)

I still prefer Linux. I haven't rebooted that system since the last Kernel upgrade, which was a few months ago, and it was 2-years running non-stop before that. No errors. Now, if Gnome and KDE could be made more compatable with each other, and if they could simplify the menu interfaces, they'd have a real contender against Windows.....

[Emmett.hendrick]

I have XP Pro for about the last year and have never had any problems with it.

Net connection - stable

games - fine

Worst I ever got was a crash to desktop in some games but no blue screens of death or anything like that.

Dos games are a bit of a pain but thanks to SC's link above I now have a dos boot disk which I can add my soundcard drivers to for my old games.

[DraconisRex]

I've had one bluescreen of death -- it somehow managed to lose the video driver, and I couldn't figure out how to get it back. (Tech support was a big help -- NOT.) No idea what happened.

I used Linux 7.2 to access the drive, and was able to get my doc files and all backed up to CD-ROM, which meant I had most of the system back up and running in just a few hours. Talk about a pain....

Guess that'll teach me! (Now, what did I learn here?)

[sradel]

Originally posted by Wolferz:

(for starters. I can't remove it, now the hard drive is inaccessible. the differences between pro and home are very slight, not worth the extra money if you need tech support, forget it, there is none.)

Wolferz, It looks like you may be having a problem with XP not seeing your IDE controller. If you are seeing a blue screen with (Inaccessible boot device) You may have to hit F6 when you install to manually install a driver for it. That is if the controller manufacture has written drivers to support XP. I have seen this when using some of the Promise controllers as well as others.

[scorchedearth]

I used to swear by 98se, but XP:Pro has won me over. I have six computers, and having used XP on one of them for about two months now (had to reboot once only because my video card sucks), I find myself disappointed whenever I use the other five. XP boots faster, finds and installs drivers automatically without even hinting that it was doing so and is very stable.

As for hard drive problems, I believe XP uses NTFS instead of FAT32. If you convert, its permanent. I had an issue when my parents got a new computer with XP and I wanted to copy items from the old hard drive. After I copied, the old computer wouldn't boot anymore. Had to redo the MBR (and bootdisk.com is actually a good site).

[Guest $iLk]

To Remove Windows XP Pro AND NTFS partitioning:

1.) Insert your Windows XP CDROM

2.) Restart your computer to boot from CD (make sure it's enabled in the BIOS)(If that's not an option you will have to download a 6 floppy disk set from Microsoft for XP boot disks)

3.)At the Welcome to setup page, press ENTER to continue

4.)Press F8 to accept license agreement

5.)If an existing XP installation is detected, you are prompted to repair it (press ESC to not repair)

6.)All existing partitions are listed, select the one you are wanting to format to install XP again or to remove it for good and press D to delete it, or press C to create a new one out of unpartitioned space. If you press D to delete, press L (or ENTER and then press L if it is the system partition) to confirm you want to delete it.

7. Select the space and press C to create the new partition, install WIndows, etc.