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For some reason, I knew that a child agency was going to creep into that somewhere along the line. I think I just kept reading that to find that out. I was right. Oh man, don't get me started on them.

quote:Originally posted by Soback: 1: Also, the motherboard supports AGP 4x, but I've read around and it seems like even if you get an 8x video card, it will still run in a 4x slot. Lets put it to a vote shall we. What do you guys think? 1: You are correct. There's usually a manufacturer speed detail on an AGP card speed. My ATI9600xt is marked at 4x/8x. Usually, they are even compatible with the 1x-2x also. My current mother board is also only 4x max so I'm loosing out on all that extra bus speed the 8x offers. But I also have my upgrades on there way. Other than that, I'm going to still be using the ATI card for now and haven't looked into other video cards right now so I can't really make any suggestions on other video cards right now. I'm still tired from researching all the parts I'm getting.

quote:Originally posted by jamotto: 1: The 400W Sparkle PSU that I have, seems to work alright for my 6800GT. As long as you got a good brand, 450W should be more than enough. 2: Just out of curiosity any reason your keeping the floppy drive? I removed mine the last time I upgraded and I really have not missed it. 3: The power connector was about where your RAM goes. The whole board was a bit off the beaten track being a VL busPCI combo board just about everything was in odd locations, I guess to make room for all of the components. 1: The coolmax Power supply seems pretty good so far. Very quiet too. 2: Well, I mainly have kept it for redundancy. Good thing I did because the new motherboard (as well as some of the others I've looked at) seem to have a slight OS install quirk. You need to make a floppy driver disk for the SATA drives as windows XP installs. XP will request you to put a floppy disk in I guess, don't know why you can't use the CD the drivers come on if one has a second CD drive. We'll see. 3: Ah, okay. I guess they had to make compromises with the design.

Thanks for busting my new year celebration with this news.

quote:Originally posted by jamotto: 1: naw, now if you where to upgraded your video card to something like a 6800GT they need extra power, mine used the same plug type as the one you would use for harddrives, CD-Rom drives etc. 2: oh that's not too bad, at least it's near the drives, I had a board that put the connector under where the Power Supply would be 1: Yeah, I've tried to stay away from those types of video cards in the past. But with the new power supply, I hope 450w is still enough, I should be okay. My previous power supply was 350. 2: I have Full size server case and I might need to get a longer Floppy IDE because the floppy drive bay is all the way on top. My Msi board is midway on the board and the cable just reaches I think. As for the board you had, that means the power connector for the board was way off the beaten track?

What!? Nooooooo!!!

quote:Originally posted by jamotto: Nice! The extra 4 pin connector is needed for more power hungry processors like the AMD 64 and later P4's. Thanks. Oh okay, I was thinking it might have had something to do with the video systen. Motherboard schematics Look where they put the floppy connector.

quote:Originally posted by Gonesolo: Nice setup. Not a fan of Ati myself however (got burned recently with my last card - not a good expierence, plus Ati don't play nicely with Linux). EDIT: dang forgot about this part. I think you'll find the reason most boards don't support both AGP and PCIe slots is the extra work required to ensure there is no conflict between the two buses. ISA and PCI were easier to implement side by side - very different architectures but there is something shared by agp/PCIe that causes putting them on a board harder to do. Thanks Have never had a problem with any ATI I've owned. Haven't used linux so I can't really comment on that compatibility. Eventually, I will upgrade to a PCI-E card and with this motherboard I can. Sweet. Anyway, The reason I went with the PQI and not a "name" brand like corsairs or kingston was the price, it's speed and it's features compared to the other two (or others). http://www.pqimemory.com/spec.asp?link=/sc...200-1024SBL.htm Cas Latency 2 Timing 2-3-2-5 Warranty: Lifetime I picked it up for $105 plus a $10 manufacturer rebate and the buyer's reviews on newegg are pretty good. Plus it looks nice . Forgot to list the price I bought the parts at. CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor (San Diego core) $222.00 MEMORY: pqi TURBO 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) $105.44 MOTHERBOARD: ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard $68.00 HD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200S0 200GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive $88.50 Total: 483.94 Not sure how Newegg works but I went back to check any more reviews on these and I see that some of the prices have gone up on them since putting my order in on thursday. As for the motherboard, I'm sure you are right. I like taking the more sinister view on things. One thing this motherboard does require is two power connectors. A 20 pin and a 4 pin. Don't know yet why but I'm going to find out. Some newegg people hooked up just the 20pin and booted up their systems with nothing. Then and only then did they read the manual and found out that you need to hook up a 4 pin power connector also. See, as SC always tells everyone, RTFM. Luckily I have replaced my older power supply back in october with a coolmax 450 watt and it has all the power connectors needed. Can't wait to see UC in all its glory. I can also order up UCAWA now that I will have to power to run it.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor (San Diego core) MEMORY: pqi TURBO 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) MOTHERBOARD: ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard HD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200S0 200GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive The motherboard issue is what really cheeses me off. The board above, that I have ordered, is an AGP and PCI-express system and it's the only one that I can seem to find that supports both. My rant is about how fast the motherboard manufacturers dropping AGP in most of their new class boards. Meanwhile, when PCI slots became all The rage, the board companies kept the ISA slots for many years. What I'm thinking that is going on, in a strictly coporate sense, is that most of these motherboard manufacturers also make PCI express video cards. So, to them I guess, by dropping the AGP they figure will force people to plunk down the cash and migrate over to an expensive PCI express video card. Asrock (an Asus subsidiary) board proves that it can be done and the reviews on this board have been fairly stellar. The upgradeability on this board, not just in terms of, in the future, upgrading to a PCI express video but the cpu, is fairly stellar as well. There are some downsides, however minor, like where they put the floppy connector and it's not a great overclocker (which I never do anyway so that's not an issue with me). Other than that, this board was designed to last technology wise. Check it out for yourself: MotherBoard http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/939DSATA2.htm Cpu List http://www.asrock.com/support/CPU_Support/...l=939Dual-SATA2 My video card is the ATI9600xt. The motherboard I'm replacing the new one with is an MSI. Great board. The only draw back, with the MSI board, is the AGP in that it's max is 4x and the ATI card is 8x max. Just in that upgrade alone, I'm doubling the speed of the video card. I should be safe for some time now in anything SC throws my way (or anyone else for that matter).

quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: Why would I want to go see it? For the gore. There's another on the horizon, Hostel by QT. Gore fests have never looked so good.

quote:Originally posted by Aperson: True... which is why I found it funny that the people wanted the company to call it Christmas. Then again, isn't there proof that Jesus might have been born sometime in March? quote: when Christianity became the official religion of Rome, Constantine made it more palatable to the peasants by superimposing Christian saints onto the existing pagan deities and adapting Christian beliefs to pagan customs. Most notably, the winter solstice celebration of the rebirth of the Sun became Christ's Mass, or the birth of the Son. This method of gradual assumption of new names for old beliefs is much less traumatic and indeed might hardly have been noticed by the average peasant. Constantine could rename the winter celebration and create new symbols to associate it with the virgin birth of Christ, but in most cases the citizenry simply continued their former frolics "under new management." Within a hundred years of this edict, most of the pagan cults had died out and Christianity was ensconced as the official religion of the ever-expanding Roman Empire. Prince Vladimir would use this same technique in 987 when he facilitated Russia's transition to Christianity by superimposing the Christian saints onto the feast days of the former pagan deities and folk heroes; the feast day of John the Baptist, for example, would be celebrated in the same season and manner as the former river deity. From the Middle Ages to the Reformation, Christmas week became an elaborate religious celebration, characterized by long church services and sermons offset by music, plays, and masques. This was a stark and solemn contrast to the vulgar, pagan festivities of the original winter solstice, which included drinking, gambling, and sex. Yet the side-by-side celebration of the most profound with the most profane continued through the centuries, culminating in our own culture's mixing of the most sacred of holidays, Christmas, with the most hedonistic of holidays, New Year's Eve. The British were not praying as Washington crossed the Delaware, they were drinking. Even St. Nicholas, the Greek Orthodox priest on whom Santa Claus is patterned, shares a schizophrenic name with "Old Nick," one of the common slang names for Satan! quote:The split personality of our winter holiday has endured for more than 2,000 years, and that pattern is likely to continue as governments seek to influence the masses by controlling their Masses. Some complained that solstice rituals were too pagan, and Christmas was born; others complained that Christmas was too Christian, and Santa Claus emerged; some complain today that the holidays have become too commercial, but even louder, Keynesian voices complain that we aren't commercial enough ÔÇö without "healthy" Christmas sales, our economy will falter. I suspect the conflict will rage a long time, as humans seek a balance between the profound and the profane, the commercial and the personal, the spiritual and the pagan, self-interest and self-sacrifice. The two-faced Roman god Janus, who sits on the cusp between the old year and the new, will continue to preside over this schizophrenic holiday of merriment and wonder.There's also another pretty good read over at Wikipedia about the theories regarding the origin of the date of Christmas.

Not to sound alarmist: CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) -- Venezuela on Monday warned of a radiation hazard and launched a nationwide search for a capsule with highly radioactive material that was stolen along with the truck carrying it. (CNN) -- Federal authorities on Tuesday boosted to $50,000 a reward for information about 550 pounds of explosives missing from a business near Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Very nice mod.

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures said Sunday it has agreed to buy DreamWorks SKG Inc., the movie studio co-founded by director Steven Spielberg, for $1.6 billion, including debt assumption. The Viacom (Research) unit said the deal gives it DreamWorks' current projects, including Spielberg 's soon-to-be released movie "Munich," a stake in any future films from the iconic director, and worldwide distribution rights for movies from DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc. (Research), maker of computer-animated movies such as smash hit "Shrek." Paramount further said it is in "advanced discussions" to sell off DreamWorks' 59-title film library shortly after it closes the deal to buy Glendale, Calif.-based DreamWorks. The deal marks the end of independence for one of Hollywood's major film studios, DreamWorks, which was founded 11 years ago by Spielberg, music mogul David Geffen and movie executive Jeffrey Katzenberg.

quote:Originally posted by Race Bannon IV: I would just love to hear the conversation he and Lenny Bruce are having on the other side! Well, if there are any censors there also, forget it. You won't hear anything.

I'm going to carry this over from the joke section. quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: The scary thing about that, is that it could actually happen in this day and age.... Sad thing is, is that it is. I guess you haven't heard about the brouhaha here in NYC. NewsDay: Lights, camera, legal action In Huntington, judge works out compromise for town display after lawyer sues, saying it is overly religious quote: I'm not anti-religion or against Christmas. This is not an attack on Jesus or Christians," said Pashkin, who declined to disclose his faith...I've seen a more recent report on TV that he is indeed Jewish. Makes one think. Why is he attacking just the christmas display, in his own words: " nativity scene, Christmas tree and two signs on the Village Green that read "Peace on Earth" violated his constitutional rights because of their religious overtones", while ignoring the menorah? Then there's this: WorldNetDaily: HOLIDAY BLUES Christmas carols banned, but Hanukkah songs OK District axes 'dogmatic religious statements,' yet suggesting Jewish themes more cultural

(CNN) -- Just days after his 65th birthday, groundbreaking comedian Richard Pryor died Saturday of a heart attack, his wife told CNN. Thanks for all the laughs.

NEW YORK (Business 2.0) - Electronic Arts decided it couldn't beat Jamdat, a publisher of videogames for cellphones, so this week it made the largest acquisition in its history, paying $680 million for the Los Angeles-based game-maker, the biggest player in the burgeoning $2.6 billion market for games on mobile phones.

quote:Originally posted by Joel Schultz: And if you read the whole listing, by doing so you'd end up losing at least $15K since that's the actual material worth of the gold (according to the listing). All the labor and craftsmanship costs melted away into a rectilinear slab... Lose $15k. A mere bag of shells. But very true. But I was making the point in relation to the Xbox for $12,000. Unless that's also made out of gold, there is no way to recoop anything on it. It's a total investment loss. At least with the gold face plate you'd get a little less than half the money back. quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: No takers so far. As far as I'm concerned; if his friend is so rich, why is he selling the item on eBay? If I was rich - and stupid enough to have it made - I'd keep it. Agreed, it doesn't make sense. If I was a skeptic, I'd say more like it was gold plated aluminum.

quote:Originally posted by Prez: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/sit...iers.guest.html Here are some pictures of the soldiers terrorizing children. Why aren't these on the news I wonder? OMG!! Look at that horror. Not only are they terrorizing children but brainwashing them too with goodwill and kindness.

$36,000!? I thought the Xbox 360 itself going for $12,000 on ebay was bad enough. On the plus side, you can at least melt the gold back to an ingot.

Opps. Disreguard my post above. I thought this was about the gold faceplate. How did I do that.

quote:Originally posted by Grayfox: errr for some reason when i click on the link i get a "create new topic" page for our forums... i thought it was sleep deprivation until i did it about 5 times... So it's not just me. I just did a reboot since the computer's been on all night. But nope still a broken link. I did see the link last night before I fell asleep and was going to comment on it now. If I remember, the price for it was $36,000. I thought an Xbox 360 going for $12,000 was bad enough. I personally feel that everyone has lost all sense of reality.

quote:Originally posted by Supreme Cmdr: Wow. Just wow I don't fly that often. Heh, that's an understatement. The last time I flew on plane was back in '93 and that was to visit my sister who was then living in Clearwater Florida. You know the dinner was as actually good, sesame chicken with a honey mustard sauce. Oh sorry I digress. Anyway, I'm probably on that list too because of the internet sites I've gone to. Some really radical ones too. Not to do anything specific but just seeing what they are all about for argument sake. I know the CIA and FBI are monitoring internet traffic. I probably got those spy vans outside my house listening in on me as well.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: Socialism is a FAILED system, and if put into effect will destroy the United States and all that we have accomplished. The sad thing is that it's being done in a piece by piece fashion and the majority of the population isn't even aware of it. In other words, it's sneakily creeping up slowly on everyone. What are the symptoms some of you might ask? The banning of personal behavior. Guns, smoking, food etc... It all boils down to one thing, not the control of big business but the individual himself/herself.