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quote:I'm fresh out. How about a brew instead? I normally dont, drink, but I suppose, I can make an exception. THNX quote:Anyway, we're probably never leaving Iraq. At least not in my lifetime. And I fully plan on living to be a hundred!! I feel this is probably going to be the case, and further more, I believe it will drag us into more conflict within the region; however, I only hope the conflicts, and our actions, are balanced with intelligent forethought; rather than being purely reactionary. quote: I can't wait for the next onslaught of abuse we are going to take, once the rest of the world starts accusing us of putting in a puppet govt. in Iraq. Its already being said for Afghanistan. WE ALL know this viewpoint will be the case. CANNOT be avoided, now; HOWEVER, I believe, with IRAQ, there were other ways of accomplishing the fall of SADDAM, without an all out invasion.(but this is only an opinion, based on my PAST military service, and the JOB, I had within the military, at that time. quote:Anyway, I'm not a card carrying Republican but I can't with a clear conscience say that - from what I know - that Bush lied about the war. I just think he is purely uninformed and, well, clueless? That, you get to blame on the people who work for him. You MIGHT be right about Him being clueless....but, either way, I see the NECESSITY(based on a well rounded view of MANY actions taken by Bush) for ANOTHER candidate.(too bad the republicans didnt give us another choice) quote:I fail to see how the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq can be regarded as a bad thing. At the end of the day - to me - the end justifies the means; whether one likes Bush or not. I see, what we have done, in AFGHANISTAN, as appropriate, in regard to our current involvement. I see it to be a good thing, to bring democracy to ANY country....using proper methodology. I cannot condone the philosophy: "the end justifies the means". my personal ideology will NOT allow it. Too many things, I could accomplish that way, but my sleeping, at night, WOULD suffer quote: All I can do is thank the brave men and women who get to make these decisions and put others in harm's way. I TOO, respect( without reservation) those who serve within the military, and for doing that which they have sworn to uphold. I too MADE that oath, and REVERE it, AND it's purpose; consequently, THAT OATH, is what FIRED me up, to make the stand, I have made AGAINST the bush administration.(kind of ironic,I know, but TRUE; never-the-less)

quote:I'm fresh out. How about a brew instead? I normally dont, drink, but I suppose, I can make an exception. THNX quote:Anyway, we're probably never leaving Iraq. At least not in my lifetime. And I fully plan on living to be a hundred!! I feel this is probably going to be the case, and further more, I believe it will drag us into more conflict within the region; however, I only hope the conflicts, and our actions, are balanced with intelligent forethought; rather than being purely reactionary. quote: I can't wait for the next onslaught of abuse we are going to take, once the rest of the world starts accusing us of putting in a puppet govt. in Iraq. Its already being said for Afghanistan. WE ALL know this viewpoint will be the case. CANNOT be avoided, now; HOWEVER, I believe, with IRAQ, there were other ways of accomplishing the fall of SADDAM, without an all out invasion.(but this is only an opinion, based on my PAST military service, and the JOB, I had within the military, at that time. quote:Anyway, I'm not a card carrying Republican but I can't with a clear conscience say that - from what I know - that Bush lied about the war. I just think he is purely uninformed and, well, clueless? That, you get to blame on the people who work for him. You MIGHT be right about Him being clueless....but, either way, I see the NECESSITY(based on a well rounded view of MANY actions taken by Bush) for ANOTHER candidate.(too bad the republicans didnt give us another choice) quote:I fail to see how the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq can be regarded as a bad thing. At the end of the day - to me - the end justifies the means; whether one likes Bush or not. I see, what we have done, in AFGHANISTAN, as appropriate, in regard to our current involvement. I see it to be a good thing, to bring democracy to ANY country....using proper methodology. I cannot condone the philosophy: "the end justifies the means". my personal ideology will NOT allow it. Too many things, I could accomplish that way, but my sleeping, at night, WOULD suffer quote: All I can do is thank the brave men and women who get to make these decisions and put others in harm's way. I TOO, respect( without reservation) those who serve within the military, and for doing that which they have sworn to uphold. I too MADE that oath, and REVERE it, AND it's purpose; consequently, THAT OATH, is what FIRED me up, to make the stand, I have made AGAINST the bush administration.(kind of ironic,I know, but TRUE; never-the-less)

quote: Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. BIG DEAL! quote:The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. I wont reveal how much MINE(a REPUBLICAN)has been,(to KERRY, but it makes your figures look rather small quote: THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. As if THAT is what really MATTERS? quote:The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. As IF: "NO DEMOCRAT, EARNED their position within their community?". Your perceptions of REALITY are, INDEED, TWISTED!! quote: I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. If I had a choice, between SOCIALISM, and COMMUNISM; I bellieve, I would choose the FORMER. In all reality,for what is availiable today, I would rather see it swing back and forth. This would insure RADICALS,as yourself(or future BUSHs, NEVER get a firm foot-hold within this countries final outcome. quote:I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. You should be aware, being as your so "INTO" politics; Neither party has EVER had FULL control, to accomplish their plans, in finality. Where is your objective REASONING?..or is it completely BOW DOWN TO BUSH..Denominational DOGMA? quote: Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush has done NOTHING, but WAR, on THREE FRONTS. : One is the afghanistan attack on ALQUEDA(justified). AND TWO was to ATTACK IRAQ(NOT so justified). and THIRD was to use government power to DILUTE our constitutional RIGHTS(COMPLETELY OVER-THE-LINE, and inequivicaly CRIMINAL in nature). quote:Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? Your beating a DEAD horse here. You can WORSHIP this COMMUNIST promoting ADMINISTRATION, if you choose, AND try to push the idea, that Kerry will somehow do more damage than bush; but to be real honest...I dont think that would be POSSIBLE. quote: he economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. You really know a LOT about the ECONOMY, but I fear you misunderstand the ACTUAL concept, as to how it ALL interrelates. The brakes are being applied by THIS administration, as we speak(INTREST RATE INCREASE?...DUH!).AND will continue to do so, for the next 6 months. WHY is Bush doing this???? BECAUSE, BUSH KNOWS, he is going to loose the election, and they are going to try to REPEAT the Illusion, that DEMOCRATIC administration's cause recession. SORRY, it is ALWAYS with the REPUBLICAN administration, where things become a buyer's market(I LOVE BUYERS MARKET SITUATIONS ), RECESSION hits the little guy! SORRY dude...If you were in MY position, YOU would understand, WHERE AND WHEN and HOW ... REAL money is made. quote:ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The WAR is the MOST important issue(THIS is where the BUSH LIES, circumnavigated OUR check and balance system)... as ECONOMICS, is manipulated, in regard to political issue..REGARDLESS, of the party affiliation of the Administration within the white house. can you REALLY ignore the role, that CONGRESS plays in such issue?? or the HOUSE? quote: he economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. yeah, all those, piddly ass, minimum wage jobs!!! Look how many millions of GOOD PAYING JOBS, WITH BENEFITS, that HAS LEFT THIS COUNTRY" MORE BUSH DOCTRINE, PROPAGHANDA? quote:Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations.TAXES always seems to affect the the outlook of the working poor; when, in fact, the income tax, is really, a minor issue, when examining how economics REALLY works, within the international community. quote: Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I will

quote: Of the 25 top donors to political causes this year, 24 are liberals, and have donated 100's of millions of dollars to various organizations that support Kerry. BIG DEAL! quote:The average Democrat donation is over $1000, the average Republican donation is less the $500. I wont reveal how much MINE(a REPUBLICAN)has been,(to KERRY, but it makes your figures look rather small quote: THe Republicans list is about 4 times bigger then the Democrats. In other words the Republicans are getting a LOT of small donations, whereas the Democrats are getting less, but they are bigger. As if THAT is what really MATTERS? quote:The Republicans are controlled by people who have EARNED their wealth. As IF: "NO DEMOCRAT, EARNED their position within their community?". Your perceptions of REALITY are, INDEED, TWISTED!! quote: I know who I want in charge, and it sure as heck ain't a bunch of left wing socialist nutsos and their union bosses. If I had a choice, between SOCIALISM, and COMMUNISM; I bellieve, I would choose the FORMER. In all reality,for what is availiable today, I would rather see it swing back and forth. This would insure RADICALS,as yourself(or future BUSHs, NEVER get a firm foot-hold within this countries final outcome. quote:I ove how the Democrats have been complaining about poverty and health care and all these other socialist schemes, yet they had 40 years to fix it and they haven't. You should be aware, being as your so "INTO" politics; Neither party has EVER had FULL control, to accomplish their plans, in finality. Where is your objective REASONING?..or is it completely BOW DOWN TO BUSH..Denominational DOGMA? quote: Bush has gotten more done in 4 years then anyone since Reagan. Bush has done NOTHING, but WAR, on THREE FRONTS. : One is the afghanistan attack on ALQUEDA(justified). AND TWO was to ATTACK IRAQ(NOT so justified). and THIRD was to use government power to DILUTE our constitutional RIGHTS(COMPLETELY OVER-THE-LINE, and inequivicaly CRIMINAL in nature). quote:Bush's Presidency has been brilliant, and now you guys want to turn this over to Kerry and watch him destroy it? Your beating a DEAD horse here. You can WORSHIP this COMMUNIST promoting ADMINISTRATION, if you choose, AND try to push the idea, that Kerry will somehow do more damage than bush; but to be real honest...I dont think that would be POSSIBLE. quote: he economy being the most important, because as soon as Kerry raise the tax rates, like he says he is going to do, you will see the economy put the brakes on so hard that it will make your head spin. To raise taxes is to slow the economy, and to raise taxes the way he wants to, is to slam it in reverse when it's doing 80. You really know a LOT about the ECONOMY, but I fear you misunderstand the ACTUAL concept, as to how it ALL interrelates. The brakes are being applied by THIS administration, as we speak(INTREST RATE INCREASE?...DUH!).AND will continue to do so, for the next 6 months. WHY is Bush doing this???? BECAUSE, BUSH KNOWS, he is going to loose the election, and they are going to try to REPEAT the Illusion, that DEMOCRATIC administration's cause recession. SORRY, it is ALWAYS with the REPUBLICAN administration, where things become a buyer's market(I LOVE BUYERS MARKET SITUATIONS ), RECESSION hits the little guy! SORRY dude...If you were in MY position, YOU would understand, WHERE AND WHEN and HOW ... REAL money is made. quote:ALL you guys concentrate on is the war, when that is going EXCELLENT, but the economy is THE best thing that Bush has done. The WAR is the MOST important issue(THIS is where the BUSH LIES, circumnavigated OUR check and balance system)... as ECONOMICS, is manipulated, in regard to political issue..REGARDLESS, of the party affiliation of the Administration within the white house. can you REALLY ignore the role, that CONGRESS plays in such issue?? or the HOUSE? quote: he economy is NOW creating almost 250,000 jobs a MONTH, inflation is under control, the stock market is looking very strong, and the output of AMerican workers is up as well. yeah, all those, piddly ass, minimum wage jobs!!! Look how many millions of GOOD PAYING JOBS, WITH BENEFITS, that HAS LEFT THIS COUNTRY" MORE BUSH DOCTRINE, PROPAGHANDA? quote:Kerry will bring all that to a SCREECHING halt by raising taxes on those that have made ALL of the possible. The business owners and corporations.TAXES always seems to affect the the outlook of the working poor; when, in fact, the income tax, is really, a minor issue, when examining how economics REALLY works, within the international community. quote: Well, you get what you wish for, and if you wish for the economy to come to a screeching halt, if you wish us to LOSE all the ground we've gained, then go ahead and vote for Kerry. I will

NOW you have something, which would cost, very little to legally pursue, and a buisness(assets included)to file against.. WHAT an idiot!! quote: I wouldn't let this guy anywhere near my piano. God only knows what kind of frustration he'd take out on the ebony keys. can you imagine, the keyboards?..ALL IVORY...

quote: If you mean by that we are no longer nieve, then you are correct. In this statement, you insult those of us who know the difference betwixt; what is real, and that which has been proportionally INFLATED, in order to manipulate the masses. quote:Please, this country was founded in conflict and rhetoric. And with each new conflict there's been enough ideological rhetoric to last a millennium. This is nothing new. American's are by far a lazy bunch at heart and you need alot of rhetoric to stoke up the flames. On the issue of Bush and his so called decieving us, take a look at this: Just because, in hien-sight, ONE writer's historic research, has ONE theory, as to a particular president, manipulating this country, during a time of REAL war, with a REAL threat, has NO valid comparrison, as to what BUSH has done. And, in addition, TO use THAT as JUSTIFICATION, is completely incomprehensable. First: The world CONDITIONS; the type of ENEMY; the REALITY of threat; are 180 degrees out of sync. THERE IS NO CORRELATION!! Second: To ACCEPT, virtually a criminal act, from a PRESENT administration, ONLY ; because, One accepts, the assessment, it was done in the past, is ILLOGICAL and ABSURD. quote: You can easily replace Roosevelt's name in that with Bush's. That statement is a double edged sword, which deserves NO response. If I agree, then I compare bush to a man considered GREAT, by all Americans. And BUSH simply does NOT deserve such comparrison. If I disagree; Then, I dismiss Bush's immoral deceptions, and accept him (BUSH) as something other than the lier YOUR LINK has stated Rosevelt to be. I do find it amusing, that one of YOU finally ADMITS: BUSH to be a LIER, but now try to justify it.

quote: If you mean by that we are no longer nieve, then you are correct. In this statement, you insult those of us who know the difference betwixt; what is real, and that which has been proportionally INFLATED, in order to manipulate the masses. quote:Please, this country was founded in conflict and rhetoric. And with each new conflict there's been enough ideological rhetoric to last a millennium. This is nothing new. American's are by far a lazy bunch at heart and you need alot of rhetoric to stoke up the flames. On the issue of Bush and his so called decieving us, take a look at this: Just because, in hien-sight, ONE writer's historic research, has ONE theory, as to a particular president, manipulating this country, during a time of REAL war, with a REAL threat, has NO valid comparrison, as to what BUSH has done. And, in addition, TO use THAT as JUSTIFICATION, is completely incomprehensable. First: The world CONDITIONS; the type of ENEMY; the REALITY of threat; are 180 degrees out of sync. THERE IS NO CORRELATION!! Second: To ACCEPT, virtually a criminal act, from a PRESENT administration, ONLY ; because, One accepts, the assessment, it was done in the past, is ILLOGICAL and ABSURD. quote: You can easily replace Roosevelt's name in that with Bush's. That statement is a double edged sword, which deserves NO response. If I agree, then I compare bush to a man considered GREAT, by all Americans. And BUSH simply does NOT deserve such comparrison. If I disagree; Then, I dismiss Bush's immoral deceptions, and accept him (BUSH) as something other than the lier YOUR LINK has stated Rosevelt to be. I do find it amusing, that one of YOU finally ADMITS: BUSH to be a LIER, but now try to justify it.

THAT has to be the MOST HONEST review I have EVER read!! and you KNOW he actually PLAYED it...long term!! I had looked, for this kind of game, for over 20 years. Ever since, I moved up from my TSR-80 to my NEW 8088/Dual 5.25" floppies!! I stumbled into a computer center, to purchase about 20 of those old 8 pin dip memory chips(needed to upgrade to the MAX 512K memory) LOL Any how, I picked up MY FIRST game: "STARFLIGHT". The package said 5 programmers worked 5 years developing it. RAMDOM GENERATED PLANETS.(it was comprised of one 360k program disk and and one 360k data storage disk) it was'nt very graphic, of course. CGA/Hercules monocrome capable. It had a huge universe, with planets you could land on...but That was the bug that bit me!!! (all those old floppies died years ago) When I stumbled upon BCMG Last year, I about FAINTED!!. UC was the icing on the cake. [ 06-30-2004, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: street ]

Enigma, I respect and agree, there need to be united resolve, in the time of crises; however, The ONLY REAL crises, we appear to be in(since 9/11) is an administration pushing ideologic rhetoric, which circumnavigates EVERY PRINCIPLE, on which our country was founded. When the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, has the AUDACITY to stand up on national television, and PROMOTE the IDEA of war,and speak against anti war demonstration, by saying:" ANY AMERICAN, who did not STAND in agreement( with HIS resolve, for war); WAS UNPATRIOTIC, and sympathetic to TERRORISM...and frankly an IDIOT"..FOLLOWED by the statement:"IF YOU ARE NOT FOR US; YOUR AGAINST US".......Then,I ask you WHO is responsible for the disrespect of adverse opinion, and ,in fact,this WHOLE division in the first place?? Just wondering?

Enigma, I respect and agree, there need to be united resolve, in the time of crises; however, The ONLY REAL crises, we appear to be in(since 9/11) is an administration pushing ideologic rhetoric, which circumnavigates EVERY PRINCIPLE, on which our country was founded. When the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, has the AUDACITY to stand up on national television, and PROMOTE the IDEA of war,and speak against anti war demonstration, by saying:" ANY AMERICAN, who did not STAND in agreement( with HIS resolve, for war); WAS UNPATRIOTIC, and sympathetic to TERRORISM...and frankly an IDIOT"..FOLLOWED by the statement:"IF YOU ARE NOT FOR US; YOUR AGAINST US".......Then,I ask you WHO is responsible for the disrespect of adverse opinion, and ,in fact,this WHOLE division in the first place?? Just wondering?

Somebody NEEDS to look up the word "SOVEREIGN", If they(IRAQ) are an independent, self governed state, AT THIS POINT AND TIME, I will kiss your A*s!(well, maybe NOT) but seriously: THIS false, and premature PRESENTATION of evolving events, has become a STANDARD, for the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS EXACTLY what got us into this mess in the beginning!!! "Looks like more BUSH indocrination to me* AND: just to point out "The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT" used SS GAS(1000 times more damaging, AND BANNED by international TREATY for use in the OPEN BATTLEFIELD) on IT's OWN citizens during the WACO MASSACRE!! AND @ lost: doesnt matter who was president, at the time, I VOTED for BUSH(regretfully) I did NOT vote for clinton.My views are NOT partisen oriented!! hummm.........I guess that old WW2 type," mustard GAS",(with a VERY limited shelf life)possessed by those little countries(10 years years after its production), is SUCH a justifiable concern, we should KILL anyone who has it ??? THIS is the WMD which everyone is so concerned as to WHERE it is now, or where it is stored?.. This is just MORE of the BUSH DOCTRINE of deceptive reason, for U.S. AGRESSIVE behavior. [ 06-30-2004, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: street ]

Somebody NEEDS to look up the word "SOVEREIGN", If they(IRAQ) are an independent, self governed state, AT THIS POINT AND TIME, I will kiss your A*s!(well, maybe NOT) but seriously: THIS false, and premature PRESENTATION of evolving events, has become a STANDARD, for the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS EXACTLY what got us into this mess in the beginning!!! "Looks like more BUSH indocrination to me* AND: just to point out "The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT" used SS GAS(1000 times more damaging, AND BANNED by international TREATY for use in the OPEN BATTLEFIELD) on IT's OWN citizens during the WACO MASSACRE!! AND @ lost: doesnt matter who was president, at the time, I VOTED for BUSH(regretfully) I did NOT vote for clinton.My views are NOT partisen oriented!! hummm.........I guess that old WW2 type," mustard GAS",(with a VERY limited shelf life)possessed by those little countries(10 years years after its production), is SUCH a justifiable concern, we should KILL anyone who has it ??? THIS is the WMD which everyone is so concerned as to WHERE it is now, or where it is stored?.. This is just MORE of the BUSH DOCTRINE of deceptive reason, for U.S. AGRESSIVE behavior. [ 06-30-2004, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: street ]

uh..hum... *street looks around*........ oh well

the question is HOW Kerry is different. (sub question): Is it because he represents the DEMOCRATIC party? In MY opinion. Kerry is LEVEL headed; opposed to BUSH's example of irrational, and reactionary responses. Kerry is a REAL war experienced VET, which has seen ENOUGH of it FIRST HAND, to KNOW the consequence of his action(regardless of the bush indoctinational propaghanda); opposed to BUSH's demonstration, that he has'nt the experience to give him a balanced view to what the REALITY of war entails. much less deal with OUR security, as a nation, within the international community. just a couple of examples presented. but the answer to your sub part question is as follows(and this should make things a little clearer for you) WHAT PARTY affiliation, Kerry has, IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NOT BUSH!!, as BUSH has already demonstrated his capability to DESTROY 50 years of work, in regard to INTERNATIONAL FORIEGN policies (in less than a year). edit: by the way, the first link is an of atrocious character, and of NO legitamate validity; while the following links, can dig no more dirt, than that which is required for ANY individual to run a campaign in this country. Your attack should be based against the ENTIRE electorial process, NOT KERRY.(just a note) [ 06-30-2004, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: street ]

the question is HOW Kerry is different. (sub question): Is it because he represents the DEMOCRATIC party? In MY opinion. Kerry is LEVEL headed; opposed to BUSH's example of irrational, and reactionary responses. Kerry is a REAL war experienced VET, which has seen ENOUGH of it FIRST HAND, to KNOW the consequence of his action(regardless of the bush indoctinational propaghanda); opposed to BUSH's demonstration, that he has'nt the experience to give him a balanced view to what the REALITY of war entails. much less deal with OUR security, as a nation, within the international community. just a couple of examples presented. but the answer to your sub part question is as follows(and this should make things a little clearer for you) WHAT PARTY affiliation, Kerry has, IS IRRELEVANT. HE IS NOT BUSH!!, as BUSH has already demonstrated his capability to DESTROY 50 years of work, in regard to INTERNATIONAL FORIEGN policies (in less than a year). edit: by the way, the first link is an of atrocious character, and of NO legitamate validity; while the following links, can dig no more dirt, than that which is required for ANY individual to run a campaign in this country. Your attack should be based against the ENTIRE electorial process, NOT KERRY.(just a note) [ 06-30-2004, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote: quote:if we continue with this type OFFENSIVE, throughout the world. You will. Sadly, that DOES appear to be the direction this administration IS taking. WE will see what WE can do about that!! (my poor senator is getting writing cramps, responding to ALL my friend's and my(collaborated) request..as is my representatives and congressman)

quote: quote:if we continue with this type OFFENSIVE, throughout the world. You will. Sadly, that DOES appear to be the direction this administration IS taking. WE will see what WE can do about that!! (my poor senator is getting writing cramps, responding to ALL my friend's and my(collaborated) request..as is my representatives and congressman)

quote: May I ask how is that being in "bed" with Bush as you state. If he was, Putin would have been gung ho as well towards Iraq. Stop being a Moorian. Here's an example of what it's like being a Moorian..... @ LostInSpace: The bush IDEOLOGY is the SAME,(RULE BY FORCE..i.e.COMMUNISUM IDEOLOGY!!) as PUTIN'S..."THAT IS BEING IN BED WITH HIM." I have stated, the positions which BUSH actively proclaims.(I only put the CORRECT definative adjective on his PROCLAIMED position) this is NOT PARTISENSHIP: I am NO liberal!! Just because I refuse to worship your GOD," BUSH ", Does NOT place ALL my standing and PRINCIPLE, on the Left side of the fence. You and your like, have ONLY BUSH DOCTRINE, as a position;therefore, you USE LABEL making, Character ATTACKING and NAME CALLING, to uphold a FALSE position..... JUST LIKE BUSH!! again...: BUSH-WAR-ITE's can't help but EMULATE their pathetic MASTER!! Nobody said anything about PUTIN's position on the WAR, being the SAME as BUSH. quote: Whether you want to admit it or not, the Republicans, especially Bush, are laughing all the way to the bank, to deposit the money they are stealing from the treasury. AND BOY, ISNT THAT THE TRUTH!!! (at least the REPUBLICANS directly involved with ENERGY!!) [ 06-30-2004, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote: May I ask how is that being in "bed" with Bush as you state. If he was, Putin would have been gung ho as well towards Iraq. Stop being a Moorian. Here's an example of what it's like being a Moorian..... @ LostInSpace: The bush IDEOLOGY is the SAME,(RULE BY FORCE..i.e.COMMUNISUM IDEOLOGY!!) as PUTIN'S..."THAT IS BEING IN BED WITH HIM." I have stated, the positions which BUSH actively proclaims.(I only put the CORRECT definative adjective on his PROCLAIMED position) this is NOT PARTISENSHIP: I am NO liberal!! Just because I refuse to worship your GOD," BUSH ", Does NOT place ALL my standing and PRINCIPLE, on the Left side of the fence. You and your like, have ONLY BUSH DOCTRINE, as a position;therefore, you USE LABEL making, Character ATTACKING and NAME CALLING, to uphold a FALSE position..... JUST LIKE BUSH!! again...: BUSH-WAR-ITE's can't help but EMULATE their pathetic MASTER!! Nobody said anything about PUTIN's position on the WAR, being the SAME as BUSH. quote: Whether you want to admit it or not, the Republicans, especially Bush, are laughing all the way to the bank, to deposit the money they are stealing from the treasury. AND BOY, ISNT THAT THE TRUTH!!! (at least the REPUBLICANS directly involved with ENERGY!!) [ 06-30-2004, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:Preemptive action against those that support terrorism is indeed the BEST way to get this war on terrorism done Quickly and with as little American Bloodshed as necassary.To use YOUR logic, I should have the RIGHT to KILL my neighbor, if I SUSPECT, he MIGHT be a danger to the community...yeah right!!! THAT is the AMERICAN way..alright!!! quote:To wait for and attack and then act is just stupid, you are putting the lives of American civilians at risk.AGAIN??? see the above!! I LIVE everyday, to FIGHT communistic ideology similar to that which you adhere. I think people who hold such views, are a DANGER to ME and MY family....hummm...Maybe I should make a PREEMPTIVE STRIKE?. LOGIC has definately evaded your reason.(IMHO) quote:And the Iraq war was based on MUCH more then just the war on terrorism and you know it, and to continue to spin this like it was the ONLY reason that we went in, is intellectual dishonesty at it's best.THE IRAQ WAR has NOTHING to do with TERRORISM!!! This is reality, Nothing dishonest with my declarations of TRUTH. quote:We had a LOT of reasons to go into Iraq, and Bush used ALL of them, and to have you sit here on your little high horse and spout that it was all about 911 is a crock of crap.Hey, that was your GOD(BUSH)'s reasoning(among other choice lies)...NOT MY idea, at all!!! quote:Well, head in the sand and just pound on one point that was NEVER made, is typical of those that hate Bush. They will grab whatever thing that they can get hold of and use, even if it's false.Here again, you misunderstand me...I DO NOT HATE BUSH, but HIS methodology; HIS Ideology; HIS(lack of) principle; HIS decietfulness; HIS arrogance; HIS irrationality; and HIS attack on ME as an AMERICAN who stood against this war, COMPLETELY DISGUST ME!!! quote:repeat a lie enough, and the democrats still believe that it somehow becomes the truth.WHICH LIE are you referring?? The one where you keep calling me a democrat, or liberal, or bush hater??? Maybe, its the one where IRAQ HAS weapons of mass destruction..? Maybe its the one where IRAQ was FUNDING Alqueda? Maybe it's the one where IRAQ was a DIRECT and IMMEDIATE THREAT to the UNITED STATES. ....I suppose, it could be ALL the news agencies throughout this nation, as you so often state: "COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORKs".. ROFLMAO!! oh..oh...oh...*street holding hand up*...I know...I know!!: "THE VERY IDEA THAT IRAQ IS SOVERIEGN....seems to ME, THIS IS the BIGGEST LIE OF ALL!!!" I am so sorry, my friend, but it is you, NOT I, who have a very bent perspective concerning reality!! quote:I really thought that you were better then that. Oh well, guess I was wrong....NOW, THIS ONE, really made me laugh out loud!!!, You and I have NEVER agreed on ANYTHING. I have NEVER changed course, in my position, nor have I given you ANY hint, that I would be any other than that which I have expressed from my very FIRST post on this forum. Even THIS(your LAST statement here) is either, a self deception, or lie, in regard to your previous opinion of me. I expect nothing more from a BUSH-WAR-ITE....BOW DOWN TO HIM(BUSH)maybe, just maybe...he can solve ALL the problems of your world. I assure you HE(BUSH) is nothing to me.... for me to even HATE HIM, would give him some importance. It is NOT the MAN I abhore, but the ideology, he represents. [ 06-29-2004, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:Preemptive action against those that support terrorism is indeed the BEST way to get this war on terrorism done Quickly and with as little American Bloodshed as necassary.To use YOUR logic, I should have the RIGHT to KILL my neighbor, if I SUSPECT, he MIGHT be a danger to the community...yeah right!!! THAT is the AMERICAN way..alright!!! quote:To wait for and attack and then act is just stupid, you are putting the lives of American civilians at risk.AGAIN??? see the above!! I LIVE everyday, to FIGHT communistic ideology similar to that which you adhere. I think people who hold such views, are a DANGER to ME and MY family....hummm...Maybe I should make a PREEMPTIVE STRIKE?. LOGIC has definately evaded your reason.(IMHO) quote:And the Iraq war was based on MUCH more then just the war on terrorism and you know it, and to continue to spin this like it was the ONLY reason that we went in, is intellectual dishonesty at it's best.THE IRAQ WAR has NOTHING to do with TERRORISM!!! This is reality, Nothing dishonest with my declarations of TRUTH. quote:We had a LOT of reasons to go into Iraq, and Bush used ALL of them, and to have you sit here on your little high horse and spout that it was all about 911 is a crock of crap.Hey, that was your GOD(BUSH)'s reasoning(among other choice lies)...NOT MY idea, at all!!! quote:Well, head in the sand and just pound on one point that was NEVER made, is typical of those that hate Bush. They will grab whatever thing that they can get hold of and use, even if it's false.Here again, you misunderstand me...I DO NOT HATE BUSH, but HIS methodology; HIS Ideology; HIS(lack of) principle; HIS decietfulness; HIS arrogance; HIS irrationality; and HIS attack on ME as an AMERICAN who stood against this war, COMPLETELY DISGUST ME!!! quote:repeat a lie enough, and the democrats still believe that it somehow becomes the truth.WHICH LIE are you referring?? The one where you keep calling me a democrat, or liberal, or bush hater??? Maybe, its the one where IRAQ HAS weapons of mass destruction..? Maybe its the one where IRAQ was FUNDING Alqueda? Maybe it's the one where IRAQ was a DIRECT and IMMEDIATE THREAT to the UNITED STATES. ....I suppose, it could be ALL the news agencies throughout this nation, as you so often state: "COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORKs".. ROFLMAO!! oh..oh...oh...*street holding hand up*...I know...I know!!: "THE VERY IDEA THAT IRAQ IS SOVERIEGN....seems to ME, THIS IS the BIGGEST LIE OF ALL!!!" I am so sorry, my friend, but it is you, NOT I, who have a very bent perspective concerning reality!! quote:I really thought that you were better then that. Oh well, guess I was wrong....NOW, THIS ONE, really made me laugh out loud!!!, You and I have NEVER agreed on ANYTHING. I have NEVER changed course, in my position, nor have I given you ANY hint, that I would be any other than that which I have expressed from my very FIRST post on this forum. Even THIS(your LAST statement here) is either, a self deception, or lie, in regard to your previous opinion of me. I expect nothing more from a BUSH-WAR-ITE....BOW DOWN TO HIM(BUSH)maybe, just maybe...he can solve ALL the problems of your world. I assure you HE(BUSH) is nothing to me.... for me to even HATE HIM, would give him some importance. It is NOT the MAN I abhore, but the ideology, he represents. [ 06-29-2004, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: street ]