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We have, in effect, created a" civil-war-ready-to-happen" condition within IRAQ....now, by giving iraq, their "Simulated" soveriegnty, we have instigated a condition, where we are supporting 46% of the population, a military advantage to subjugate, the 41% by military rule. "Hell of an example, of PROMOTING a FREE DEMOCRACY". 1).An estimated 46%, of the IRAQI, want to see Saddam pay for his CRIME. 2). An estimated 41%, of the IRAQI,want Saddam set FREE! 3). An estimated 13%, of the IRAQI, could care less what happens to saddam! 4). An estimated 78%, of the IRAQI, just want AMERICANS to GO HOME. Interesting brew of opinion, among a people(46%) we " SO CALLED" LIBERATED!!. Seems to me, they want us to leave, so they can fight it out.... quote: "I often wonder, just how, a people raised within this country's educational system, can hold onto such reason;.....but then, I turn on the T.V.,, to find, the answer plainly given " -Quote, from: "The Writing's of SUN" 1974

We have, in effect, created a" civil-war-ready-to-happen" condition within IRAQ....now, by giving iraq, their "Simulated" soveriegnty, we have instigated a condition, where we are supporting 46% of the population, a military advantage to subjugate, the 41% by military rule. "Hell of an example, of PROMOTING a FREE DEMOCRACY". 1).An estimated 46%, of the IRAQI, want to see Saddam pay for his CRIME. 2). An estimated 41%, of the IRAQI,want Saddam set FREE! 3). An estimated 13%, of the IRAQI, could care less what happens to saddam! 4). An estimated 78%, of the IRAQI, just want AMERICANS to GO HOME. Interesting brew of opinion, among a people(46%) we " SO CALLED" LIBERATED!!. Seems to me, they want us to leave, so they can fight it out.... quote: "I often wonder, just how, a people raised within this country's educational system, can hold onto such reason;.....but then, I turn on the T.V.,, to find, the answer plainly given " -Quote, from: "The Writing's of SUN" 1974

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/13/redcross....r.ap/index.html an update, as to the Abu Ghraib prison condition, and RED CROSS participation.

Brings back, some OLD memories, as to how, ole billy boy (Gates), started out.....REMEMBER Apple, and DOS??!!...DR DOS?!!...and DOS shell?(i.e. windows!!! bah!!) Only figures: a pre-employed alta vista (accused of hacking AltaVista)worker, would be working for a company like microsoft.

quote:You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them Then again, it's only natural I dont need to know of those radio shows, to acknowledge your admissions as to who and what they are, and what they stand for. I NEVER insulted the shows,but only stated my position, as to be willingly swayed,by partenship, to be UNACCEPTABLE; yet, you continue to attack me, the person, rather than debate the ideology which I,(A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT"), do stand. quote: Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens Sorry, I am NO lier, and I do NOT adhere, nor would I ever be tempted to adhere, to the Bush doctrine, of TERROR and DOOM. TRUTH will bear itself out...REGARDLESS of delusional BELIEFs. And concerning this nonsense, about this country falling, due to the liberal party, being servants of the DEVIL, I will let those irrational statements speak for themselves. If there be a DEVIL, THIS COUNTRY'S POLITICIANS(FROM BOTH PARTIES)are EQUALLY CORRUPT, and NEITHER know ONE WIT, what GOD is, much less, WHO He is!! quote: I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap Not to worry, REGARDLESS of who wins, the ELECTION, bush's power, will be; and in fact, already is, being reigned in. quote: Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason,... I listen to reason...I just WILL NOT follow, someone's opinionated partisen rubbish, when, that rubbish negates every principle, on which our country has been built!!!. quote: you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening I sincerely HOPE you are not referring to Jag, or yourself....lol I am a 45 year old man, who has been ACTIVE in politics for 28 years. I spent 6 years ACTIVE duty: defending this country's ideals, from foreign governments, who ACTIVELY promoted YOUR philosophy, as to HOW a Government should excercize it's power. In doing so, I was shot in the stomach, and lost 75% of my intestines,and 20% of my stomach, from a 50 cal round.(AND NO, I do NOT have a purple heart, and do NOT want one.) During the Gulf WAR, I lost my wife, in Kewait(she died, delivering MAIL to U.S. soldiers, at the front) I was born poor, and worked my way through college, with NO help from our government, in any way shape or form. I did NOT even take advantage, of the G.I bill, for my education.(I suppose, I was too proud: admittantly my greatest fault) So, If you SAY MY ATTITUDE, is SICKENING, I suppose, you are an authority, and may very well, be right. I WILL NOT apologize, for it; NOR, will I bow down to YOUR Bush doctrine ideologies... even for a second.

quote:You don't even know those two radio shows and you insult them Then again, it's only natural I dont need to know of those radio shows, to acknowledge your admissions as to who and what they are, and what they stand for. I NEVER insulted the shows,but only stated my position, as to be willingly swayed,by partenship, to be UNACCEPTABLE; yet, you continue to attack me, the person, rather than debate the ideology which I,(A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT"), do stand. quote: Fine by me street, contineu preaching you're lie's and bull, don't know about that anymore you just part of the catalist that'll bring us down. But you won't know that till it happens Sorry, I am NO lier, and I do NOT adhere, nor would I ever be tempted to adhere, to the Bush doctrine, of TERROR and DOOM. TRUTH will bear itself out...REGARDLESS of delusional BELIEFs. And concerning this nonsense, about this country falling, due to the liberal party, being servants of the DEVIL, I will let those irrational statements speak for themselves. If there be a DEVIL, THIS COUNTRY'S POLITICIANS(FROM BOTH PARTIES)are EQUALLY CORRUPT, and NEITHER know ONE WIT, what GOD is, much less, WHO He is!! quote: I will be so glad when Bush is elect, no more of this Kerry crap Not to worry, REGARDLESS of who wins, the ELECTION, bush's power, will be; and in fact, already is, being reigned in. quote: Edit: Actually, you're attitude is equally as bad, you refuse to listen to reason,... I listen to reason...I just WILL NOT follow, someone's opinionated partisen rubbish, when, that rubbish negates every principle, on which our country has been built!!!. quote: you refuse to listen to those who have probably been around longer than you, you refuse to listen to those who have taken a longer standing in the political arena. So you're attitude is most most sickening I sincerely HOPE you are not referring to Jag, or yourself....lol I am a 45 year old man, who has been ACTIVE in politics for 28 years. I spent 6 years ACTIVE duty: defending this country's ideals, from foreign governments, who ACTIVELY promoted YOUR philosophy, as to HOW a Government should excercize it's power. In doing so, I was shot in the stomach, and lost 75% of my intestines,and 20% of my stomach, from a 50 cal round.(AND NO, I do NOT have a purple heart, and do NOT want one.) During the Gulf WAR, I lost my wife, in Kewait(she died, delivering MAIL to U.S. soldiers, at the front) I was born poor, and worked my way through college, with NO help from our government, in any way shape or form. I did NOT even take advantage, of the G.I bill, for my education.(I suppose, I was too proud: admittantly my greatest fault) So, If you SAY MY ATTITUDE, is SICKENING, I suppose, you are an authority, and may very well, be right. I WILL NOT apologize, for it; NOR, will I bow down to YOUR Bush doctrine ideologies... even for a second.

quote:Street You just don't get it, and saddly you never will The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole I believe, I DO, in fact, "GET IT". this is only your opinion...absolutly, NOTHING, but a partisen biased attack..(as usual).... NO real basis!! quote:His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!Of this, I am aware: mere CONFIRMATION of my LOGICAL reasoning, as to the NEEDED pendulum swing, away from the EXTREME position, which Bush has entrenched his administration. To take EITHER partisen stand, as a PREFERRED state. That of perpetual reign, is begging for a DICTORIAL state of government. I really suggest, to you ALL who perceive this ideal as SAFE, to the American way of Life,to re-evaluate your position..... but OBVIOUSLY, you would rather see THAT way of life, conformed, to the BUSH Administration's RADICAL ideals, with no obstruction. SORRY!! NOT going to happen...as long as people like ME live and BREATH!!! quote: The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry To insult me, and accuse MY reason, to be a PRODUCT of brainwashing, is yet ANOTHER false assumption, based on total disregard to the premise of my arguement.(something you have learned well, from whoever you have OPENED YOUR mind too) A truly WEAK attempt to attack my conclusions, when there is no premise(other than "HE IS A LIBERAL), to justify your own position. quote:When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us" So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!" I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind Here AGAIN, is ANOTHER example, of ARGUEMENT, based on OPINION, and PARTISEN prejudice; with ABSOTLUTELY NO logical reason,nor premise defined. I CANNOT and WILL NOT follow the ADVICE of ANY who do NOT think objectively enough, to present a rational conversation...sorry if this offends you, but attacking ME personally, with: "YOUR A CLOSE MINDED, BRAINWASHED LIBERAL" position, does NOTHING, but reinforce the legitamatcy of my stand. quote: Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind" see above quote:Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways SORRY, I CAN NOT do you THAT kind of favor. I do NOT allow, myself to be "BRAINWASHED", by the PREACHING of RADICAL OPINIONs; by members of either party. I am an individual who hears, that which is presented, by BOTH.I make EDUCATED decisions, based on the whole of the situation; and LOGICAL decisions, based on verification of primise. quote: You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America This is MORE evidence, of IRRATIONALITY. With WHAT PRIMISE ..never mind, I know..."Kerry is a Liberal"? quote: You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.see above!! quote: *recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot* Here, is nothing more than blatant disrespect, for ANY of us, VETERANS, who have served under hostile fire, that you may be able to present such warped views. And to be perfectly HONEST, your attitude, in regard to this, literally sickens me. ( I suppose, you just have to have had the experiance, to even remotely understand) [ 07-09-2004, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:Street You just don't get it, and saddly you never will The moment you elect Kerry, EVERYTHING will go down the hole I believe, I DO, in fact, "GET IT". this is only your opinion...absolutly, NOTHING, but a partisen biased attack..(as usual).... NO real basis!! quote:His Runningmate? Edwards? oh my god... John Kerry and John Edwards are the TWO MOST LIBERAL Senaters!Of this, I am aware: mere CONFIRMATION of my LOGICAL reasoning, as to the NEEDED pendulum swing, away from the EXTREME position, which Bush has entrenched his administration. To take EITHER partisen stand, as a PREFERRED state. That of perpetual reign, is begging for a DICTORIAL state of government. I really suggest, to you ALL who perceive this ideal as SAFE, to the American way of Life,to re-evaluate your position..... but OBVIOUSLY, you would rather see THAT way of life, conformed, to the BUSH Administration's RADICAL ideals, with no obstruction. SORRY!! NOT going to happen...as long as people like ME live and BREATH!!! quote: The thing is, I'm not going to say much more, you're incapible of compreheading the matter at hand. And don't go off and say that you keep an open mind cause you don't, you're just as brain washed as these other people who are voting for Kerry To insult me, and accuse MY reason, to be a PRODUCT of brainwashing, is yet ANOTHER false assumption, based on total disregard to the premise of my arguement.(something you have learned well, from whoever you have OPENED YOUR mind too) A truly WEAK attempt to attack my conclusions, when there is no premise(other than "HE IS A LIBERAL), to justify your own position. quote:When Kerry is elected, and we suddenly lose our military (IE Kerry cuts back on military spending) I will be laughing my ass off saying "Yep, The American people have only helped the devil.. god help us" So, don't come crying to me when our military is cut back considerably and you make this sudden discovery "Hey! What happened to our defense?!" I'm not saying you're liberal, you claim that you're not. But the fact that you're not heeding Jaguars trueful advise points that you are a liberal with no open mind Here AGAIN, is ANOTHER example, of ARGUEMENT, based on OPINION, and PARTISEN prejudice; with ABSOTLUTELY NO logical reason,nor premise defined. I CANNOT and WILL NOT follow the ADVICE of ANY who do NOT think objectively enough, to present a rational conversation...sorry if this offends you, but attacking ME personally, with: "YOUR A CLOSE MINDED, BRAINWASHED LIBERAL" position, does NOTHING, but reinforce the legitamatcy of my stand. quote: Like I've said to others "You can't talk to a liberal, they have a one tracked mind" see above quote:Do us all a favor Street, how about instead of listening to Jag, how about you turn on the radio and listen to two TRUE AMERICAN patriets, True Hokuns and Michel Savage (and keep an open mind in the process) Cause trust me, what they say will blow you're mind apart. Trust me, I was once liberal, but after listening to these two guys I suddenly discovered that I was working for the devil, so I changed my ways SORRY, I CAN NOT do you THAT kind of favor. I do NOT allow, myself to be "BRAINWASHED", by the PREACHING of RADICAL OPINIONs; by members of either party. I am an individual who hears, that which is presented, by BOTH.I make EDUCATED decisions, based on the whole of the situation; and LOGICAL decisions, based on verification of primise. quote: You elect Kerry, you're electing doomsday for America This is MORE evidence, of IRRATIONALITY. With WHAT PRIMISE ..never mind, I know..."Kerry is a Liberal"? quote: You elect Bush, you're electing at least 4 more years of our military staying together and a possible chance of this war being over.see above!! quote: *recalls something about Kerry being a true veterian.. then laughs his ass off, Kerry? A true vet? A true vet wouldn't flip other vet's off, or insult the american people... yea.. true vet my freaking foot* Here, is nothing more than blatant disrespect, for ANY of us, VETERANS, who have served under hostile fire, that you may be able to present such warped views. And to be perfectly HONEST, your attitude, in regard to this, literally sickens me. ( I suppose, you just have to have had the experiance, to even remotely understand) [ 07-09-2004, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!! Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!! I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems. I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD! I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ? [ 07-09-2004, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:Yeah, and voting for Kerry is gonna change all that.....ROFLMAO!!! Jag, this,(spitting, back and forth),with you, is getting as rediculous as the KERRY/TREASON thread!! I do NOT recall anyone EVER stating, that KERRY was going to fix ALL our political problems. I have REPEATEDLY stated a NEED; only for SUPPORTING the SWING, from EXTREME right; into the area designated, as the LEFT.(PART OF THE CHECK AND BALANCE, WHICH KEEPS OUR SYSTEM FROM BECOMING OVERLY DOMINATED BY ANY IRRATIONAL EXTREEM) AND ONLY at this point and time, have I expressed this as a NEED. BUSH has crossed the line. PERIOD! I have presented a VIABLE, and LOGICAL reasoning for this NEED. These things, you and your coherts are unable to do. ...so LET's MOVE ON to a more INTELLIGENT exchange between us....what-ya-say ? [ 07-09-2004, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote: : I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it I hear you, I was merely doing the same... quote:2: That is a state issue not a federal one. Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state? It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state. Just more rambling, follows: There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

quote: : I just felt like pointing that out. I wasn't intending to make an issue out it I hear you, I was merely doing the same... quote:2: That is a state issue not a federal one. Isn't Alabama a Democrat controlled state? It looks, as if it is today, I was merely dropping in(while passing through) and that was 12 years ago. I honestly do NOT know which party was in control then, or which is in control today, within that state. Just more rambling, follows: There is a very fine line between communistic and socialistic ideology...but there is a Definate advantage of the latter over the former...At least, as far as the people's ability to sway governmental position toward true democratic standards. Especially within a REPUBLIC with strong democratic tendencies already establilshed(i.e. U.S.A.)

quote: 1: Don't forget the running mate of Kerry is one of them Scheister lawyers.@LIS: As are MOST congressman, senators and representatives. Means VERY little, as to which party they represent, and definately does NOT degrade the legitamacy of either opponant. BESIDES, his area of expertise, was in DEFENSE, Does'nt say alot, but it does say SOMETHING. quote: Another example of a loss of freedom, maybe the first one actually practiced by authorities: You are pulled over by a police officer while driving. Every police officer will begin a line questioning. "On the street interrogation" a'la Gestapo. 1. May I see your license and registration? (papers) 2. Where are you going? 3. Where are you coming from? 4. Do you have any drugs, weapons or other contraband in your car? 5. Do you mind if I take a look? And I DARE you to say NO!! I once ended up HANDCUFFED, and placed in the back of a squad car, for giving a vagrant a cigarette. Seems, I broke the law, when I stopped to get the pack of cigarettes out of my shirt pocket.(1992) In the city of MOBILE ALABAMA, it is ILLEGAL, to stop walking, from your car, to the business you are intending to patronize. I could tell you some stories, that would make your head spin, but I will try to refrain The FACT IS: "We have consistantly been LOOSING our RIGHTS. Almost on a DAILY basis, for the last 30 years. Those, who are 30 years old and younger, have no clue. WHY?..Because, they are not old enough to know what it was like, to live in a society FREE from 138000, pages of laws implimented PER YEAR, for the past 30 YEARS!! for those who need help in doing the math: THAT IS a TOTAL of approx 4,692,000 PAGES of fine print:of additional laws(in EXCESS 10 MILLION NEW LAWS) implimented throughout the U.S. since 1970. When one denotes, MY perspective concerning the current state of affairs and it's relevancy in relation to today's POLITICAL front as B.S., They are only cutting off their nose, in spite their face. Take heed, in KNOWING, the ONLY choice availiable betwixt the TWO candidates running for office today: Bush, is pushing an extreme, nazi styled/ communistic ideology. Kerry, is pushing a moderate socialist styled, ideology. THESE ARE, IN FACT, the choice, being presented to the AMERICAN public. If you do NOT see this, I suggest you crack open some history and sociology books (preferable published prior to 1970). At this point in time, the ONLY Question with any true relevance, is this: Given these two choices: Which would be acceptable to you? and which, gives you MORE strength, as an individual, to affect the future development of this country? I will not apologize, nor back down, as to where I have made my stand. A wise man would take note!

quote: 1: Don't forget the running mate of Kerry is one of them Scheister lawyers.@LIS: As are MOST congressman, senators and representatives. Means VERY little, as to which party they represent, and definately does NOT degrade the legitamacy of either opponant. BESIDES, his area of expertise, was in DEFENSE, Does'nt say alot, but it does say SOMETHING. quote: Another example of a loss of freedom, maybe the first one actually practiced by authorities: You are pulled over by a police officer while driving. Every police officer will begin a line questioning. "On the street interrogation" a'la Gestapo. 1. May I see your license and registration? (papers) 2. Where are you going? 3. Where are you coming from? 4. Do you have any drugs, weapons or other contraband in your car? 5. Do you mind if I take a look? And I DARE you to say NO!! I once ended up HANDCUFFED, and placed in the back of a squad car, for giving a vagrant a cigarette. Seems, I broke the law, when I stopped to get the pack of cigarettes out of my shirt pocket.(1992) In the city of MOBILE ALABAMA, it is ILLEGAL, to stop walking, from your car, to the business you are intending to patronize. I could tell you some stories, that would make your head spin, but I will try to refrain The FACT IS: "We have consistantly been LOOSING our RIGHTS. Almost on a DAILY basis, for the last 30 years. Those, who are 30 years old and younger, have no clue. WHY?..Because, they are not old enough to know what it was like, to live in a society FREE from 138000, pages of laws implimented PER YEAR, for the past 30 YEARS!! for those who need help in doing the math: THAT IS a TOTAL of approx 4,692,000 PAGES of fine print:of additional laws(in EXCESS 10 MILLION NEW LAWS) implimented throughout the U.S. since 1970. When one denotes, MY perspective concerning the current state of affairs and it's relevancy in relation to today's POLITICAL front as B.S., They are only cutting off their nose, in spite their face. Take heed, in KNOWING, the ONLY choice availiable betwixt the TWO candidates running for office today: Bush, is pushing an extreme, nazi styled/ communistic ideology. Kerry, is pushing a moderate socialist styled, ideology. THESE ARE, IN FACT, the choice, being presented to the AMERICAN public. If you do NOT see this, I suggest you crack open some history and sociology books (preferable published prior to 1970). At this point in time, the ONLY Question with any true relevance, is this: Given these two choices: Which would be acceptable to you? and which, gives you MORE strength, as an individual, to affect the future development of this country? I will not apologize, nor back down, as to where I have made my stand. A wise man would take note!

**street hiding in corner rambling to himself: "but..but...only thought ONE sarcastic statement, deserved..........." quote: This shows how terrible the Bush administration...."ok OK!, I concede." SEE?..I deleted it!! **street biting tounge till it bleeds**(and my head hurts too!!) [ 07-07-2004, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote: And they wonder why their subscription base turns into the old revolving door... street, standing on the corner:........"SMART PILLS, SMART PILLS.....EVERYONE, GET YOUR SMART PILLS HERE!!" ****street snickering,to himself each night, while filling the gel caps with LEAD*****

George: THIS is what they are referring to: http://www.3000ad.com/ubbcgi/welcome.html http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?u...ic;f=2;t=001284 [ 07-07-2004, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: street ]

my 10 year OLD nephew (YES 10), is no Einstien. He got it down in a single weekend. I would say, the reviewers spent less than a couple hours on it, before, going back to their arcade games. But, register, and get the latest patch, IS a MUST. I am NO reviewer, but...MAYBE, it would be worth investigating?..... ANYONE? know if there is any MONEY in that line of work......? hummm....let's see.....I could PAY my nephew...to have FUN....and get a percentage!!!!! Probably, a CHILD LABOR LAW, I'd be violating, or something

You just had to be there....

quote:econd copy? To keep it as a reserve? Or for one of your friends so he/she can enjoy UC together with you? ALL OF THE ABOVE!! (My nephew loves it!!!)

quote:You are flying on a PRIVATE airline, they can violate whatever rights you have whenever they want. If you do NOT wish to share that information, then do NOT fly on airplanes. YOU CHOOSE to fly on airplanes, I on the other hand do not choose to fly on airplanes. When they allow me to carry a weapon on their private aircraft, is when I will fly again, until then, I will drive. real "brilliant" perspective....if you dont want the world to know what when or how you walk, eat, sleep, or relieve yourself.....then, dont walk, eat, sleep, or relieve yourself. Good GOD!, Just admit that you ABHORE FREEDOM, and PREFER a COMMUNIST/NAZI style of GOVERNMENT RULE! YOU, my friend, ARE A BLATANT DANGER to AMERICA and Her WHOLE WAY OF LIFE!!! quote: BS, I have been shipping overseas for well over 20 years, and that has ALWAYS been a requirement to get through customs. YOu MUST ALWAYS put down the value and the what type of product etc is within the package. THIS is NOTHING new. I too, have been shipping for over 20 years. I DO NOT appriciate, the RUDENESS of referring to my statement as B.S. Must I break EVERYTHING down to the MOST basics, for you? I am speaking of the LABELS on the packages, NOT the customs invoices, or the S.E.D. form..DUH!! if you dont know what I am referring too, JUST say so!! DO YOU REALLY DO ANYTHING, which you CLAIM?? quote:BS, you leave a trail no matter what, and a court can get that information and has ALWAYS been able to get that information via a subpoena, again, this is NOTHING new, and it has NOT changed. I left a paper trail for 35 years, and have left an electronic trail, for 25 years, but I NEVER, was under LEGAL obligation to ALLOW, NOR to ACCEPT violation to my private life, as to random, or specific inspection, without JUSTIFIABLE reason. PATRIOT ACT ELIMINATES NEED FOR SUBPEONA, or have you EVEN read it. I have studied it extensively. THE ONLY B.S. here, is your ability to reason for yourself, and seperate yourself, from the current BUSH doctrines!!(and we ALL KNOW what that means...RIGHT?) quote:BS, if you are found on a battlefield, FIGHTING AGAINST our troops, then you are held without representation. If you are found to be actively planning a terrorist operation within the United States, you will be arrested, read your rights, allowed representation etc. NOT ANYMORE!! NOW, as with 200 years of U.S. HISTORY,....ALL U.S CITIZENS are PROTECTED and are covered under the U.S. CONSTITUTION!!! and WILL be allowed legal representation. WE just RECENTLY had a ruling which denied BUSH his DICTORIAL control, concerning this. There ARE AMERICANS being held(TODAY), incarcerated, from WITHIN the United States,which have had NO access to an attorny; nor, have they been charged. AND they have been held for almost two years. you need to open your eyes. you are preaching BUSH doctrine, which HAS been recently DEFEATED but this crap about reading of rights... is just that, ILLUSION!!...T.V. EDUCATION, at best....that is only the miranda law, which is dictated by acceptance, beneath INDIVIDUAL STATE LEGISLATURE!! If you want to convince ME of your knowledge and credibility, Your going to have to do a LOT BETTER than that!!! quote: If you are fighting in a foreign army against OUR troops, then you will be held as an enemy combatant, and that is THE ONLY time you will be held incommunicado, besides which, if you are NOT a US citizen, the constitution does NOT apply to you. Here, is MORE BUSH doctrine...NO SUCH THING as an "ENEMY COMBATANT". THEY ARE...PRISONER'S OF WAR, or NOTHING at all. They are just people SUSPECTED of ties to those against AMERICA. ONLY 3 total has been charged, out of several HUNDRED. The rest, are JUST held. NO PROOF of guilt what-so-ever. THIS TOO, is currently being CHALLANGED, and HAS been Partially defeated, and THE FIGHT WILL CONTINUE..until THIS EXAMPLE of NAZI DOCTRINE, practiced by OUR country, is ALSO eliminated, and RATIONAL is restored. quote:BS, there are NO rights that YOU have lost, and NONE are being violated nor will be violated with ANY of these policies. yeah RIGHT!!!..THIS is why: some of the most educated, and RESPECTED lawyers, in this country, are ACTIVELY involved, in DEFENDING your FOURTH amendment rights..."AT THIS VERY INSTANT in TIME". If you are a prime example of Bush's following, We have NOTHING to fear. It would also, explains how Bush was so mis-informed prior to attacking IRAQ. I'd Offer you a SMART PILL, but I won't...and for two reasons: 1). THERE IS NO SUCH THING. and 2).I question Would YOU take it, if it DID exist. -General Michael Rose, on Bush's reaction to hearing that America is under attack on 9/11: "It is a look I know well - if he had been a subordinate commander in battle I would have immediately relieved him of his command." (I guess, GENERAL ROSE, is'nt worthy of his RANK, and MUST be ANTI-AMERICAN, in that he states the obvious TRUTH; rather than, REPUBLICAN Ideology)*sarcasim* [ 07-07-2004, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote:You are flying on a PRIVATE airline, they can violate whatever rights you have whenever they want. If you do NOT wish to share that information, then do NOT fly on airplanes. YOU CHOOSE to fly on airplanes, I on the other hand do not choose to fly on airplanes. When they allow me to carry a weapon on their private aircraft, is when I will fly again, until then, I will drive. real "brilliant" perspective....if you dont want the world to know what when or how you walk, eat, sleep, or relieve yourself.....then, dont walk, eat, sleep, or relieve yourself. Good GOD!, Just admit that you ABHORE FREEDOM, and PREFER a COMMUNIST/NAZI style of GOVERNMENT RULE! YOU, my friend, ARE A BLATANT DANGER to AMERICA and Her WHOLE WAY OF LIFE!!! quote: BS, I have been shipping overseas for well over 20 years, and that has ALWAYS been a requirement to get through customs. YOu MUST ALWAYS put down the value and the what type of product etc is within the package. THIS is NOTHING new. I too, have been shipping for over 20 years. I DO NOT appriciate, the RUDENESS of referring to my statement as B.S. Must I break EVERYTHING down to the MOST basics, for you? I am speaking of the LABELS on the packages, NOT the customs invoices, or the S.E.D. form..DUH!! if you dont know what I am referring too, JUST say so!! DO YOU REALLY DO ANYTHING, which you CLAIM?? quote:BS, you leave a trail no matter what, and a court can get that information and has ALWAYS been able to get that information via a subpoena, again, this is NOTHING new, and it has NOT changed. I left a paper trail for 35 years, and have left an electronic trail, for 25 years, but I NEVER, was under LEGAL obligation to ALLOW, NOR to ACCEPT violation to my private life, as to random, or specific inspection, without JUSTIFIABLE reason. PATRIOT ACT ELIMINATES NEED FOR SUBPEONA, or have you EVEN read it. I have studied it extensively. THE ONLY B.S. here, is your ability to reason for yourself, and seperate yourself, from the current BUSH doctrines!!(and we ALL KNOW what that means...RIGHT?) quote:BS, if you are found on a battlefield, FIGHTING AGAINST our troops, then you are held without representation. If you are found to be actively planning a terrorist operation within the United States, you will be arrested, read your rights, allowed representation etc. NOT ANYMORE!! NOW, as with 200 years of U.S. HISTORY,....ALL U.S CITIZENS are PROTECTED and are covered under the U.S. CONSTITUTION!!! and WILL be allowed legal representation. WE just RECENTLY had a ruling which denied BUSH his DICTORIAL control, concerning this. There ARE AMERICANS being held(TODAY), incarcerated, from WITHIN the United States,which have had NO access to an attorny; nor, have they been charged. AND they have been held for almost two years. you need to open your eyes. you are preaching BUSH doctrine, which HAS been recently DEFEATED but this crap about reading of rights... is just that, ILLUSION!!...T.V. EDUCATION, at best....that is only the miranda law, which is dictated by acceptance, beneath INDIVIDUAL STATE LEGISLATURE!! If you want to convince ME of your knowledge and credibility, Your going to have to do a LOT BETTER than that!!! quote: If you are fighting in a foreign army against OUR troops, then you will be held as an enemy combatant, and that is THE ONLY time you will be held incommunicado, besides which, if you are NOT a US citizen, the constitution does NOT apply to you. Here, is MORE BUSH doctrine...NO SUCH THING as an "ENEMY COMBATANT". THEY ARE...PRISONER'S OF WAR, or NOTHING at all. They are just people SUSPECTED of ties to those against AMERICA. ONLY 3 total has been charged, out of several HUNDRED. The rest, are JUST held. NO PROOF of guilt what-so-ever. THIS TOO, is currently being CHALLANGED, and HAS been Partially defeated, and THE FIGHT WILL CONTINUE..until THIS EXAMPLE of NAZI DOCTRINE, practiced by OUR country, is ALSO eliminated, and RATIONAL is restored. quote:BS, there are NO rights that YOU have lost, and NONE are being violated nor will be violated with ANY of these policies. yeah RIGHT!!!..THIS is why: some of the most educated, and RESPECTED lawyers, in this country, are ACTIVELY involved, in DEFENDING your FOURTH amendment rights..."AT THIS VERY INSTANT in TIME". If you are a prime example of Bush's following, We have NOTHING to fear. It would also, explains how Bush was so mis-informed prior to attacking IRAQ. I'd Offer you a SMART PILL, but I won't...and for two reasons: 1). THERE IS NO SUCH THING. and 2).I question Would YOU take it, if it DID exist. -General Michael Rose, on Bush's reaction to hearing that America is under attack on 9/11: "It is a look I know well - if he had been a subordinate commander in battle I would have immediately relieved him of his command." (I guess, GENERAL ROSE, is'nt worthy of his RANK, and MUST be ANTI-AMERICAN, in that he states the obvious TRUTH; rather than, REPUBLICAN Ideology)*sarcasim* [ 07-07-2004, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: street ]

quote: But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around in their country, The fact is, our government agencies, are NOT interested in illegal aliens. The CITY where I live, just put out a pamphlet, instructing us(the citizens) that they(the city) would NOT prosecute, detain, or turn into the I.N.S., any reports concerning illegals. I have it in writing, on the city government body letterhead!!. The cities reason for doing this, is that the FEDERAL and STATE governments will not allocate the funds to cover the expense, which the city must incur, for holding illegals. ON the other hand, the federal government is willing to pay $50.00 per head, per night, compensation for every american citizen, held within the jails. makes one wonder, does'nt it? ***solution: pull proportionate I.N.S. funding, and allocate compensation and the authority for LOCAL police to incarcerate illegals.*** OR not only give the illegals a cow, but also give I.N.S. agents a pooper scooper!! [ 07-06-2004, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: street ]