d8alus Posted October 23, 2002 Report Posted October 23, 2002 Hello all. I am new to this series and new to this game. I have some questions regarding effective use of assets and other related issues and would appreciate any help. 1. Can assets be upgraded? (i.e. shuttles, fighters, etc.) 2. Is there any way to form marine teams and give them orders short of individually in TacOps? 3. How do I effectively use SM's? 4. Is there an option similar to fleet C&C for marines and pilots in order to form squads/wings? Any advice at all on tactical operations would be welcome. I was an infantryman for 4 years, but we obviously didn't have access to shuttles and super fighters [ 10-23-2002, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Kiran ]
Raven Posted October 23, 2002 Report Posted October 23, 2002 Well, to your first point, no, only your CC can be upgraded. I donÔÇÖt know much about commanding marines, I never go planetside except to strafe starbases and land mining drones, but you canÔÇÖt really form wings will your fighters (and I donÔÇÖt know if there would be a reason to, after all clumping together is a disadvantage).
AWells Posted October 23, 2002 Report Posted October 23, 2002 quote: 2. Is there any way to form marine teams and give them orders short of individually in TacOps? As far as I know there's way to put your Marines into teams. quote: 3. How do I effectively use SM's? Good question... I use them as shuttle pilots personally, but you can deploy them into space, I believe. Read the VCF for instructions on how to do so. quote: 4. Is there an option similar to fleet C&C for marines and pilots in order to form squads/wings? No. [ 10-23-2002, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Litvyak ]
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 23, 2002 Report Posted October 23, 2002 NoYou can in BCG but not in BCMIt depends. In the final patch before the BCM mp patch, you will be able to deploy them into space in order to engage a station's SFMs. Other than that, they're just marines.No. But you have the Support Units tab in Tacops and on the Fleet CC menu. This gives you quick access to all your units.BCG has all of the above and then some.
d8alus Posted October 24, 2002 Author Report Posted October 24, 2002 So what you're saying is that I should have waited a year or so and bought a later incarnation? lol ok, more questions. 1. As a marine or pilot are you doomed to forever be a loner, or do friendlies show up to help? 2. How do I go about increasing the crew's AI? 3. Do co-pilots serve a purpose or can I assign them to shuttles without hindering the fighters' effectiveness? 4. Why does the manual say I can assign waypoints to away teams and transporter teams but the game doesn't let me? 5. Is there any way to tell how far along the RE is when ID'ing artifacts? 6. Is there any way to see what kind of minerals a planet/moon would yield? 7. Is there any reason to explore planets that do not have visible zones? I know this is a lot of questions, but I don't like floundering around not knowing what to do and no offense, but the manual and tutorials didn't help me very much with the execution of tasks. Is there a place I can go to find these answers, or do I just keep pestering you guys?
Cmdr Nova Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 Well. Newbie Welcome Wagon returns. I'm rusty from months of shore leave, so excuse me not knowing everything. That's SC's job, anywhoo. quote:Originally posted by Kiran: 1. As a marine or pilot are you doomed to forever be a loner, or do friendlies show up to help?Yes and no. In the game, right now, under free flight, it's just as usual, with the random AI guys coming in and out of reality. If a friendly station is under attack, expect it to launch shit. quote:2. How do I go about increasing the crew's AI?I only know of one way, and that's to leave them on station. Someone did some calculations on how long it'd take you to get them to 100 AI, and the figures came out to like a few months or something, IIRC. Make sure Windows is clean and like, stable, before undertaking such a mission. My rig's not really stable enough to go longer than like a couple days game time, but that's because I screw around too much. Lol. quote:3. Do co-pilots serve a purpose or can I assign them to shuttles without hindering the fighters' effectiveness?It's something about the accuracy of the shooting/bombardment. You can re-assign them as you wish. In something like the uber-carriers, you can have each pilot fly one fighter if you really really need the power. quote:hy does the manual say I can assign waypoints to away teams and transporter teams but the game doesn't let me?Haven't used ground crews so much. I'll look at this, since I'd be interested, too. I do know that you acn assign waypoints to craft, and those OC craft, and give orders to single marines. If stuff's not in the game yet, SC might've changed his mind, or might do it in MP. We'll hvae to see. quote:5. Is there any way to tell how far along the RE is when ID'ing artifacts?There is a chart somewhere or some data somewhere, that I recall, that listed some sort of timeframe for the research. It varies on the AI level of the RE, so mileage varies. I don't know of anyway to see the research process. Just leave it alone, and pretend it's not there. I try to buy artifacts earlier than usual, just to make time for that. quote:6. Is there any way to see what kind of minerals a planet/moon would yield?Nope. It's (sorta)random, I think, according to SC. quote:7. Is there any reason to explore planets that do not have visible zones?Not unless you're mining. Or jumping ship. Or leaving Resnig out to catch a cold. quote:I know this is a lot of questions, but I don't like floundering around not knowing what to do and no offense, but the manual and tutorials didn't help me very much with the execution of tasks. Is there a place I can go to find these answers, or do I just keep pestering you guys? Read the boards, and hang around. (That's how I learned and stuffs.) There's the FAQ and VCF (links @ top of board index page). Also. Check out the Appendix; like, very seriously. It's like better than the manual. Um... And experiment in the game. Lol, half of us didn't exactly know what to expect with regards to new stuff and differences to 3000ad. If you can't find a way to do something, then it's either not there, or you're looking in the wrong place. (Like, go to Tactical to replace a destroyed shuttle, opposed to Logistix, and etc.) Anyway, sorry I couldn't really be of much help. Shore leave really messes with you. Remember that.
chrismoney7 Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 I let Resnig wander around some planets once. Then he caught some virus and i beamed him aboard. Then some idiotic Gammulan came and blasted my medibay. I got away but stupid Resnig was still sick. Then the idiot wandered around getting everyone sick. So i took a shuttle with a marine who wasnt sick. I left the crew to die and flew away. Then i realized that the marine GOT THE VIRUS on his way to the shuttle. I caught it to. So I crashed my CC full speed head on into the Atlantic ocean. SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO NEVER LET RESNIG LEAVE AND IF HE DOES KILL HIM BEFORE HE GETS BACK
Epsilon 5 Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote: quote:2. How do I go about increasing the crew's AI?I only know of one way, and that's to leave them on station. Someone did some calculations on how long it'd take you to get them to 100 AI, and the figures came out to like a few months or something, IIRC. Make sure Windows is clean and like, stable, before undertaking such a mission. My rig's not really stable enough to go longer than like a couple days game time, but that's because I screw around too much. Lol. I might be completely clueless, but if make sure your crew members are actually doing something, their ai will increase faster. i.e. get escorted by your fighters and shuttles, put marines on search, fly on autopilot (NOT in combat, that would be plain stupid) .. stuff like that. I believe after a while my 2 shuttle pilots we're up to 25 ai, and even at that point they seemed less stupid. my flight officer went over 30 ai.
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Kiran: [QB]So what you're saying is that I should have waited a year or so and bought a later incarnation? lolHence the word: sequel Dunno why this is even being answered. Have you actually tried going into friendly/hostile territory as a marine/pilot to see what happens? Try it.Reading the manual would be a great startIf the pilot in a fighter dies (which he can, even if the craft is fine), guess what happens without a co-pilot.Because I disabled it before BCM was released. It could be done in previous BC titles but the complexity of BCM made it more extensive than I would've liked. I plan putting it back in BCM once it is actually implemented in BCG and tested.No. Maybe in BCGNo. This is random but also tied to the composite nature of the planet. See the navchart section of the appendix.Unless you are mining, no. If there are no mzones on the planet, there's nothing to explore. I was planning on not displaying anything in Tacops when observing a planet, unless you had a probe in orbit, but decided against it. That would have provided a good reason to explore a planet. [ 10-24-2002, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: Supreme Cmdr ]
d8alus Posted October 24, 2002 Author Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote: Dunno why this is even being answered. Have you actually tried going into friendly/hostile territory as a marine/pilot to see what happens? Try it. Maybe I'm missing the point of the game, but I kinda like to know what kind of odds I'm looking at before I go into combat. I'll try to just jump in and see what happens before I ask questions from now on.
d8alus Posted October 24, 2002 Author Report Posted October 24, 2002 Oh, yeah...is there a printer friendly version of the appendix anywhere?
mihau Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Kiran: 3. Do co-pilots serve a purpose or can I assign them to shuttles without hindering the fighters' effectiveness?Well, I found at some point that pilots flying alone in fighters are more effective. Maybe it's stupid, but it really works. There's a higher chance that they will get killed in a dogfight, than run out of fuel.
Raven Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 I have some parts of the appendix in a printer ready format, the really important stuff like artifacts and missiles and such not.
AllenKG2001 Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote: I have some parts of the appendix in a printer ready format, the really important stuff like artifacts and missiles and such not. Yea same here, but I bet you haven't done the ship specs or the trade list! I've done just the carrier ships but then got bored with having to re-arrange the text. May get around to finishing them of some time. Like you, I have done all the main bits like Artifacts and EP's. Knowing the EP's is good for deciding either to blow something up, disable and tow it or capture it.
d8alus Posted October 24, 2002 Author Report Posted October 24, 2002 See, you guys need to make that stuff available to the rest of us!! And the trade list is already printer friendly.
AllenKG2001 Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 Yea, the trade list aint that important. What is is the starstations type and inflation levels. Knowing this, you should be able to make 100 million in the first 2 hours. Then it's upgrade and butt kicking time!!! A little tip for target pratice, send Resnig out on a shuttle and shoot it. Then clone him and do it again!!!
Pugwash Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 If you want some printer friendly pages (well fairly friendly) on which you can sort the data before you print it try these web page Just be careful when you enter the search criteria, its all to easy to restrict the search so that no data is returned. On the Trading item page the price cargo displacement ratio is especially useful when you have more money than cargo space got to optimise those trade runs. Edit: URL updated. [ 09-30-2004, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: Pugwash ]
Supreme Cmdr Posted October 24, 2002 Report Posted October 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by mihau: quote:Originally posted by Kiran: 3. Do co-pilots serve a purpose or can I assign them to shuttles without hindering the fighters' effectiveness?Well, I found at some point that pilots flying alone in fighters are more effective. Maybe it's stupid, but it really works. There's a higher chance that they will get killed in a dogfight, than run out of fuel.Rubbish
Raven Posted October 25, 2002 Report Posted October 25, 2002 As a matter of fact I do have the trade list, I just haven?t made much use of it.
AllenKG2001 Posted October 25, 2002 Report Posted October 25, 2002 How did you copy that then? Whenever I tried to copy it into Word, it never retained the table format! Could not be arsed to reformat all of that myself.
d8alus Posted October 25, 2002 Author Report Posted October 25, 2002 Umm...to print the trade list, just highlight the text in IE and go file, print, and check the box that says, "selection"
AllenKG2001 Posted October 25, 2002 Report Posted October 25, 2002 Yeah, me knows that! I was just wondering if she managed to copy it. Anyway, welcome aboad mate! BTW, beware of the Chicken Fleet!
Wolferz Posted October 25, 2002 Report Posted October 25, 2002 quote:BTW, beware of the Chicken Fleet! Yes yes, do beware. They are ever so tasty when fried with 11 herbs and spices. Could very well cause one to suffer some Dunlap Disease.
Raven Posted October 25, 2002 Report Posted October 25, 2002 Actually, the reformatting didn?t take much time as I happen to be good at that type of thing (a skill you pick up if you?re picky about formatting).
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