Kalshion

I hate to say this, but I agree with Lost here There is NO way a criminal should be given the right to Vote If they commit a crime, then there right's should be REVOKED. That INCLUD'S there citizenship and if they get back out into the public they should WORK to get that all back We have criminal's now-a-days that get sent to jail, then get out and commit a crime, go back get out, commit another crime We can thank our justice system for those. And Lawyers My take If a lawyers bails a guy out, and he commit's another crime. Then not only should THAT lawyer be prosecuted, but so should the judge as well for ALLOWING the guy to go free after looking at all the evidence

Thats not surprising Grizzle... I saw it to while watching the debate, and the rules state that NOTHING is to be taken onto the podium Kinda make's you wonder why one of the camera men didn't bother to inform one of the debate offical's... It's also just like how that commentator was asking Bush all the tough questions and how, when the debate was over, when that guy walked up to Kerry and winked, yet completely ignored Bush Political Beurocratic Socailist is right...

quote:Originally posted by Marvin: Kal, I assume that counts as a "here" on your part. ... Yes Sir.... As for UC status, Installed. Currently a fleet commander in Single Player, have MP active. quote:Originally posted by Mrxknown: Marvin, I'll vouch for Kal, he's here most of the time *points to his head* And what, dare I ask, does that mean?

quote:Originally posted by LostInSpace: Oh yeah street's lost it he's going bananas now. It seems so..

The fact you replied and used that word is proof enough, thank you Street. You just proved my point

quote:Originally posted by street: quote: This is ONE war Street, this is something that you can't seem to come to grips with. The stability of the president is not what I am worried about, it's your stability that worries me. personally jag, your wasting your breath, addressing me, in any way, shape or form Your immature flames are evidence of your instability...so whatever you say kid. Hmmm You must be an immature kid to, seeing how you keep attacking the messenger, refusing to cooporate and answering the question's put before you You insulted Jag in another thread.. so quite frankly YOU shouldn't talk

quote:Originally posted by LostInSpace: quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: OK, enough of the Street stuff. I think this picture says it all about last night. I think that Kerry wants to rule world if you ask me. Getting the whole world together with him and him acting as Big Brother to them all. This I think is his true aspirations. Isn't there a prophecy in the bible about that? Yes there is, it's also in the book of Nostradamis (which I believe in) Big Brother will come and the world will be bathed in darkness, is one inscription in a book that I've read from the lib.

Nomad War will NEVER be won without the loss of blood We've lost only a 1000 troops The enemy has lost A LOT, rumors speculate that they've lost well over 9 perhaps 11 time's more than us In my opinion, it's worth it Soldier's follow orders Nomad. Granted there are time's when those orders shouldn't be followed, but no soldier is questioning the orders given to them to kill the terrorists You are right, we where attacked Just like how we where attacked in World War 2, Pearl Harbor, how many where lost? A LOT We went in, we got involved in that war. We lost more soldiers in those battle's than we did at Pearl Harbor BUT! It was worth it Germany surrendered, Hitler commited suicide, Japan surrendered In total nomad, we lost a lot more soldiers in World War 2 than we had at Pearl Harbor, which is what got us into the war The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, we lost about 1500+ citizen's there. We then go to war against Afganistan So, in reality, when you go to war it's only natural that you'll lose lives a war will NEVER be won just sitting on you're hands doing jack shit I thought you would know that Nomad, obviously I misunderstood you, I figured you to be smarter than this. I seriously hope I just misunderstood you're post... and that you DO realize that war will be won without blood shed Edit: Nomad, read Lost's post.. expically the new's max.. it's rather interesting and provide's some good information There's a connection alright, tracking saddam's money and such prove's just that quote:Originally posted by street: It's no laughing matter Street, but that's something you clearly have no capacity of understanding.. Nomad on the other hand, does understand it.. that's why I enjoy debating with him

There was no inf if any of the game's except Earth 2150, that's what I missed

quote:Originally posted by street: quote:Kerry in power scares me to death, absolutely. Fear, is what your all about. I think the whole world KNOWS that is the BUSH strategy. does not surprise me, you are neck deep in it. You should be. Kerry's got one hell of a chance!! Yea... one hell of a chance to destroy the US and bring us back down to where we where when we where attacked...

87 never got passed, and if it had then our troops would've been better equiped And yes, continue to ignore my questions, it must proves that you ARE a liberal who can't answer the question's put in front of him...

See Street Again, you failed to provide proof that Jaguar's fact's are screwed up That's why you aren't worth argueing with. You denie something without proof

(This is a more cleaned up version of what I'm going to say on the main board) [rp] (tap's foot as he notice's Osjuan walking into the Academy) "And where have you BEEN Cadet Courtney Cox?!", I said as I slammed down the clipboard on the desk "You've been AWOL for several months, you completely vanished from known space, you failed to stay in contact with the instructors.. and worse, you failed to notify ANYONE that you where going away!!!", I yelled as another marine grabbed my arm. "Very well" I looked away. "Report to Marvin or Remo", I said and continued to stare out of the window [/rp]

The thing is It's not actually KERRY'S site It's run by his campaign Some of thing's street have said are true, after checking the congresstional records he has said some of those SOME But not all, it IS true that he said he was going to cut our military and that right there is causing me not to vote for him

I must say, those are some good goals, but I'm not convinced.. Several problems 1. None of those goal's matter if Kerry let's the UN get involved in this war 2. Information provided before the debate's and before 2003-2004 states that Kerry plan's on Cutting our military. Until I hear him say other wise, I won't vote for him 3. He betrayed America during the vietnam war, he has YET to apologize to the HUNDREDS of Americans who where in POW camp's who DIED because of his speech to the Commitee 4. He said that he would release his military record if Bush did. Well Bush did, and Kerry still hasn't.. the reason is because if he does then he'll lose the election instantly If you're going to tell someone to do something before you do it then you best follow through, because since he didn't follow through it just shows that he's to afraid of the consequences if he's so confident in his military record what does he have to fear from releasing it? I didn't call the Kerry supporters Terrorists, I called the muslum's who are killing our troops TERRORISTS Street, I expected you to be misguided by that term "We can't win the war on terror" Bush is right, we can't win it because this war will go on for many many MANY year's to come.. it'll take a century, a decade, perhaps even more to come those to winning But, we have killed MORE terrorist's then they have killed ours

Very ammusing street Now, here's my question, what ever happened to Sandy Burger? quote:Originally posted by street: Kerry has a plan: "To REMOVE an incompetant phycho misfit from a position of power" Not sure if that's Sarcasm or not, but in politic's I don't like Sarcasm.. it get's people killed.. I find Kerry to be more a Phycho than Bush And I hardly find that a PLAN, I find that more like a personnel Vendetta... I want him to tell me EXACTLY what he is going to do. Until then I REFUSE to even look in his direction He say's he wants to get the UN involevd Uh huh, it's like I said.. The terrorist's want this guy in office because the moment he get's in office and the moment he use's the UN, WE WILL LOSE THIS WAR and we'll bombing galore in the US Check the fact's street He wants to get rid of the Patriot Act Right now because of that act we are SAFER (no attack's since 9/11, we've captured a lot of people trying to cross the border with explosive's and such in there cars) He wants to get rid of bush's Tax Cuts Thanks to those Tax Cuts my father has more money to use on food and supplys He want's to down grade our military (typical liberal) Right now, thanks to Bush, our military is stronger than it was when CLINTON was in office. And yet you want this guy, who is willing to DOWN GRADE AND CUT military spending, to be in office? How do you expect the US to be protected if our military is cut down? [ 10-01-2004, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Kalshion ]

At least Bush had an answer for every question that Kerry tossed And the funny thing is, Kerry had a hard time countering what Bush said I voted for the war before I voted against it - Kerry We will never agree on how this turned out Our resident liberal's think Bush did a bad job Our resident conservatire's think Bush did a great job Our resident neutrals (undecided) think both Bush and Kerry did an ok job My take on the subject, Kerry kept on trying to Lie but every lie he threw out Bush had a counter for it Don't forget, Kerry was apart of the Debate team that's why he looked so good on the stage. Bush however wasn't part of any such team, so I personally think they did ok but it still burns me up that Kerry kept saying "I have a plan" Well, if you have a plan... TELL US YOU TRESSIONUS TRAITOR!

CBS had it? hmmm and here I Thought they'd still have there head's up there ***

It's alright to change you're stance's on stuff But when you FAIL to support you're own troops just so you could get elected when the time come's shows that you are unfit for command That's my belief, my belief is that he INTENTIONALLY voted against the 87 bill so that he could bash Bush and get elected... but it's not working, you see many people are now realizing that Kerry voted AGAINST arming our troops adequently and yet Bush voted FOR it..

quote:Originally posted by LostInSpace: quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: It is hard work, but I wish he would have stopped saying it, because it did sound like an excuse after like the 6th time.Well, they both came away with their catch phrases tonight. Bush: "It's tough work" and Kerry: "I have a plan" (I just wish he'd tell us WTF it is). Expect that after he's elected.. if he's elected.. which I highly DOUBT quote:Originally posted by TheBunny: I don't think that Bush did well at all. He would get very nervous while Kerry was speaking, and he has almost no public speaking skills. He would even at times begin to talk less than a second after Kerry finished speaking, sometimes even before. He appeared very anxious and nervous. Also all of his arguments were mostly aimed at reminding people that Kerry changed his mind on the war in Iraq and other important issues. It is alright to change your mind on an issue if your old choice was wrong. Stubbornness will get you nowhere. Bush's speaches were mostly about opinion and did not have many supporting facts. Kerry had all of the facts, and quotes from important people in politics and the world. Kerry was also very calm and clear about what he was trying to say. I feel that Kerry did much better in this debate than Bush. Bush did not appear to have any idea what he was talking about, but Kerry appeared to have the new ideas that this country needs to win this war. Bunny, do you bother to check the fact's against what the Candidate said? Cause if you had, you would've come to the same conclusion the rest of us have Kerry lied, through and through. He lied about his stance on the war He lied about his support of our troops He lied about the failing of the war He lied so many time's that, like I said, I'd be a BILLIONIER by now And I still ask this, what ever happened to Sandy Burger?

No they did not Takvah I was switching between CNN and Fox new's at home and CNN NEVER covered it LIVE (in other word's, they never STAYED with it.. they alway's switched to somethign else... like that one guy's surgury and such.. uh huh) Live is when you constantly cover something, never swaying away from the topic at hand.. however CNN and others did just that.. they swayed away from it to cover other.. less important... topics Fox New's was the ONLY station that STAYED with it and covered it for the whole 90 minute

I hate my boss, ya know that She had a computer ready for me.... I asked her yesterday if I could use the computer at work to keep my friend's informed of the debate.. but I never thought she'd ACTUALLY do it Anywho, I watched the rest of the debate I'm impressed by the way both candidate's handled themselves Kerry's flipflopping took a new turn "Saddam wasn't a threat" a few minutes later "Oh well Saddam was a threat that's why we needed to get rid of him" uhhh... and the liberal's want this guy in office?! First he say's Saddam wasn't a threat... then a few minute's later he say's Saddam WAS a threat... MAKE UP YOU'RE GOD FORSAKEN MIND I checkde the other new's agencys Fox New's, like always, was the only one's to cover this debate LIVE CNN covered only the first 15 minutes ABC and MSNBC, from what I could see... never covered it However, in checking them right now, ABC and CBS are twisting President Goerge Bush's words around and saying one thing when he meant something else So typical of the liberal media Then Kerry voted against the 87 bill sup for our troops Kerry claim's our troops weren't ready and blame's Bush for our troops being poorly equiped Yet... if you check the voting record, it clearly shows that Kerry voted AGAINST the 87 Bill to EQUIP our troops for war.. Who the hell is this guy? He blame's Bush for his OWN Blunder... LOL

quote:Originally posted by Tac: bush was very defensive and dare i say a bit whiny... but still he's doing quite good. kerry... lol, still spewing hindsight condemnation and refferring constantly to vietnam...and yes, he's contradicted himself several times in the first 10 minutes. they should throw in mud and thongs and have them wrestle too. btw, where's nader? I wanted to see him yapping up there too Would you not do that!!!!!!! You posted what I was just ABOUT to post awhile ago!!! TAC!!! Merrrr Anywho, here's my take Bush is killing Kerry, everytime Kerry say's something Bush's bounce's back somethign that KERRY said himself at that time "I didn't support the war" - Kerry "If you didn't support it then why did you vote for it" - Bush That's preatty much what was said. Lol, I swear if I had half a penny for every time Kerry lied I'd be a multi-billionier right now This debate is just streaghting my belief in Bush Kerry has said some thing's, but funny thing is if you check the congresstional record what is said there, counter's what Kerry says.. in other word's Kerry is lossing this debate, he's trying very hard to come back but everytime he does Bush keep's putting him back into the Box Kerry was part of a debate team.. hmm, was that a team full of 1st graders? Cause Kerry certainly isn't doing very well "My plan is better" - Kerry (just said a couple second's after I posted) Uh huh.. and you're plan is... what exactly? He say's he has a plan and yet he doesn't tell people... how am I suppose to vote for you if I don't know what you plan on doing, for all I know you might plan on detonating some nuke's in the US to send this war.. and trust me that WOULD end the war "I will bring the troops back in 6 months" - Kerry Interesting... I'm checking the congresstional record's and he claim's back in 2003 that he would bring them back AFTER he was elected... then he'll get the UN involved... uhhh.. right... UN.... cowards... "We havn't been training the troops there" - Kerry We havn't? Huh, coulda fooled me.. I look at the new's coverage from Fox New's and such and I can see us training Iraq troops.. lol.. such a liar I swear "Saddam wasn't a threat" - Kerry Hmmm, the UN had 17 resolution's placed on Iraq and Saddam violated all 17... I think that make's him a major threat I also recall him saying that Saddam WAS a threat back in 2001-2002, and checking the congresstional record's from that time also prove's that Kerry said that Saddam was a threat "30 country's where capible of making those weapons" - Kerrys He's right.. but there's a problem Those country's would NEVER think of making those weapons because of the US... that's why Bush didn't go after them, because they didn't pose a threat (they weren't actively making WMD's like Saddam was) "The test here is the credibility of the US" - Kerry Granted, it is.. but it's not surprising that the US is hated because we took out Saddam, hmm this senator hasn't done his history yet.. My take on the debate so... it's looking good, but Kerry still hasn't convinced me yet.. I love having the congresstional website linked to my laptop, I can check everything that both candidate's say Let's see, so far between my family personally Kerry is a - While Bush is a - But anywho, to keep going "To keep sanctions going" - Kerry How much longer will these Sanction's go? We have several Sanctions on this place, but we can't just keep placing them if they'll keep on violating them "In order to keep this working we should work with France, Germany and the others" Work with France and Germany? After they BETRATED us? This Senator is short a few marbals... or rather.. is short a couple thousand marbals.. has he conviently forgotten that France and Germany helped arm the terrorist's? (check the congresstional records) Make's me now wonder if Kerry doesn't care about that.. and if not then that seriously make's me question his ability to be president Blast, I gotta go to work someone else take over for me (perferably, someone who check's the congresstional record's. Not someone who check's the Baised media) [ 09-30-2004, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: Kalshion ]

*yawns* I guess I should wait outside gammy space in my BC for him OPEN SEASON!