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Oh joy, another 90 minutes of "I have a Plan".

Dammit, you had to say that.

Again, correct me but Kerry said on the debate that he was going to follow reagan. In fact, Kerry praised reagan as well. Since Bush is following this doesn't leave much for Kerry to do or be different.

Don't know how many of you are aware of this one but it looks damn good starring Christian Bale. The Machinist. And folks that's not special effects on Christian Bale. He actually lost all that weight. Talk about dedication to his craft. He had gotten so bad that even the cast and crew were getting extremely worried. I watched a 1/2 hour special of it on Fox 5. Here's the official web page The Machinist official web page

quote:Originally posted by Shingen: Did anyone watch the Frontline special on PBS last night, about Bush and Kerry? Nope missed that one but I did catch Dennis Miller on the tonight show last night while I was laying down thumbing thru the channels on the TV. Don't think this one was a repeat but you know something he sounded like me and people were cheering eating it up. He pretty much said forget the U.N. look at the debacle in the sudan it's the U.N. at it's best and he also made a comment "what we are suppose to wait for (mentions some obscure 4th world country) for their approval and get them on board too. It's time to get tough.

I say also that the leaders of other countries be hauled in that court as well. If you don't know why, read the other threads. Ah hell here's a little of it: While the United Nations focused on delivering humanitarian goods to an Iraqi population suffering from international sanctions and the totalitarian regime, Saddam's government devised elaborate ways to skim money from deals sending oil out and goods in. The report spells out how kickbacks were solicited and how money got to Baghdad. Iraq tried to manipulate foreign governments, including members of the U.N. Security Council (search) by awarding contracts -- and bribes -- to foreign companies and political figures in countries who showed support for ending sanctions, in particular Russia, France and China, the report says. The former head of the Oil-for-Food program, Benon Sevan (search), also is accused of receiving bribes in the form of vouchers allowing him or companies tied to him to purchase 7.3 million barrels of oil, which would have netted $700,000 to $2 million, depending on oil prices. Damn, the U.N. can't even keep it's own house clean. And alot claim Bush is doing it for the oil. Looks like quite a few countries were doing dirty things for the oil. I'd say knock it off already with the U.N. and getting more countries on board Bush's coalition. Wasn't going to happen then, now or anyone's lifetime. Alot of you seem to forget Kerry had the same stance (even when clinton was in office) of going after Iraq with military means just that he would have gotten more countries on board namely France and Russia etc... So I don't know how some can spout hate against Bush while praising Kerry in reguards to Iraq. Does not make sense. The sanctions were not going to work (due to the undermining of it) so giving the sanctions more time to works as Kerry has said just doesn't make sense also.

quote:Originally posted by street: 1:Not, to be offensive, but if you really believe, we have to murder the innocent civilians, and destroy MILLIONS of individual's lives, in another country, in order to keep a terrorist attacker, out of our own country, you MUST be confused. Think about it rationally. Terrorist are eventually going to attempt killing some more people here REGARDLESS. If we utterly massacre several million people, we merely suspect, are terrorist, or remotely connected to such, with NO regard to the catastrophic, effect it have on entire nations, will it not INCREASE those odds? Besides, would it not be more rational, to actually abide by INTERNATIONAL rules of engagement, for declaration of war, and treatment of prisoners of war? REGARDLESS, of who are planning to attack the United States? Your ANGER toward the Iraqi, and the Afghani populations, are entirely misplaced, and out of perportion, as to what REALISTICLY happened here on 9/11. You are not alone, in this battle for balance. And It is not the fault of the American People, but of an administration which has instigated a FALSE direction for this anger. The consequence, is that the WRONG people are literally being SLAUGHTERED, right along side the guilty. This is NOT justice. While we americans sit in our living rooms and relax, in comfort and safety....WE are guilty of delivering HELL, of unimagined perportions, on MILLIONS of individuals who are absolutely GUILTLESS of any wrong doing. War on TERRORIST organizations, is NOT wrong. It's the DECEIT, and the METHODOLOGY, which is abhorrant, and utterly UNACCEPTABLE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2: As far as France, Germany and Russia's intent on helping out in Iraq, They are NOT responsible for the mess, and should not be required to do anything. Their refusal is only evidence, of the present administration's inability to handle foreign affairs, at its most basic level. No one can blame them for not intending to deal with Kerry. But that is the beautiful thing about having bilateral communication, and using diplomatic reason, to forge good foriegn relations. IT CAN be done. And mountains CAN be hurdled without murder in masse. The present Administratiion, may as well NOT even have diplomats, as The only good relations, we have, are with a group of impoverished 3rd world countries who will inevitably learn to hate us as well. Kerry may NEVER win those three countries support, But he has more of a chance, than bush will EVER have, in forming ANY good relations with ANYONE. All one must do is look over the bush record, throughout his term, to see he knows nothing of international interaction. 1: No offense taken. I never said I was angry with the Iraq or Afghan population. In fact, I support them all the way to their freedom. Rather, the people that were in charge of their countries holding onto to power only by force and not the will of the people. With your analysis you would not have gotten involved in WWII because too many innocents would be harmed. Our bombs pumbled germany from up high and on the ground. How many innocent from adults to children and anti-hitler germans were killed there or other countries we fought this way in order to rid them of nazi's? Many I can tell you that. All wars are this way. War is not a pin point clean affair. As much as we would like. Damn, no one can fight a war without collateral damage even to the point of not accidently hitting your own troops. We abided by INTERNATIONAL rules actually bent over in many instances for years and what did that get us 9/11. So what's your point? It's time to take the bulls by the horn and deal with it ourselves. It's here you miss the point as well. It was the continued sanctions that fostered these terrorist even more so than I think this war ever will and that's Bush's point. The world ganging up on a muslim state with sanctions oh yeah that sat well with them. Our attack on Afghanistan and Iraq has had many advantages that ripple throught the middle east and the terrorist should take heed not only will they be in our crosshairs but their families too. We've seen lybia get off it's ass and hand over their WMD's and other nasties and finally get their heads screwed on straight and get back to what's important their people and economy. 2: Hmmm, you don't believe it's their mess? Who was undermining then U.N. sanctions? Allowing Saddam to thumb his nose up at years of U.N. sanctions while hording the cash to give new life to his WMD program. Seeing the U.N. in action in other countries leaves something to be desired. Unless the U.N. means what it says, they have absolutely no credibility whatsoever. France, Germany and Russia have added to this greatly their credibility is shot as well.

And the news keeps getting stranger: CRYSTAL, Minnesota (AP) -- Police responding to a call of a convulsing Elvis Presley impersonator soon found themselves in a high-speed chase of another faux celebrity -- a man dressed as one of the Blues Brothers.

Oh no..

quote:Originally posted by street: However, you are incorrect, to ASSUME, how insignificant, their cooperation would be, with Kerry, reather than bush. Correct me if I'm wrong but France, Germany and Russia already said they want nothing to do with the Iraq clean up even if Kerry is elected. So how is Kerry going to get them on board? Oh yeah his "I have a plan". Besides, Bush put a stop to their underhanded trading with Iraq when he ordered the attack that's why they are pissed off at him and these countries were left with holding an empty bag. Then Bush asked them to forgo Iraq's debt which was in my book illegal in the first place. As for your War pics, those are nothing new that I haven't seen uncensored before from WWI to the first Iraq war. I've also seen the videos of the beheadings. We all here agree War is a nasty buisness. What would you rather have, seeing those pictures of the Iraq war or Iraq under the control of Saddam in just a few short years and showing pictures of American civilians in the same light as he perpetrates attacks here in this country. Those pics could easily have been us in the near future. Of course we will never know, because Bush took care of that issue. While you are at it, why don't you dig up some photo's of the people hitting the ground at the World Trade Center as they either slipped or deliberately jumped from the towering inferno or the chared remains or any other pics of victims of other terror attacks (alot of children have died from those as well).

Will it never end..... Microsoft on Tuesday published 10 software security advisories, warning Windows users and corporate administrators of 22 new flaws that affect the company's products.

quote:Originally posted by Matchoo: Hopefully more people will realize this. I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Alot are so blinded by Bush hate it's a crime. I myself don't hate Kerry. He's probably an okay guy but his policies (or lack there of) just aren't good for americans no matter how much he tries to sell us "I have a Plan". His wife is another story altogether she's an uncouth european just for that alone I wouldn't vote for Kerry even if he had good plans for america.

You guys are not listening or reading. Could it also be you guys are just really totaly blinded by your Bush hatred. How many times do we have to give you direct evidence that no matter who was in office Al Gore, Kerry or Bush, you were not going to get a complete coalition. The crux of Kerry and the liberals/Democrats argument stems from the fact that Bush didn't get France, Germany, Russia on board for this coalition. Well boo hoo look around the other threads and you'll find out why. These countries should be brought before the world court themselves for criminal activites in Iraq. They have alot to answer for like undermining the U.N. sanctions for starters. As for the U.N., I have less faith in them than I do Kerry.

I hate to tell ya's but this trend started with Clinton. I'll have to see if I can pull out some old articles stating that America is going to become merely a Service Industry workforce.

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Grandmother wrestles crocodile Now there'something you don't see everyday.

Why is it when you attack Kerry his only defence is that "You are taking my words outa context"? It's getting as annoying as his "I have a plan" statements. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's campaign announced Sunday its plans to use as the basis of a new commercial a quote from an 8,000-word New York Times Magazine article about Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. He used the same statement that's in this article at a campaign speech I was watching on Saturday on C-span and I came away with the same impression as the article states way before the above report. I was like WTF are you crazy terrorism just a nuisance.

Damn, I didn't see that one coming.

I never have lack of faith when it concerns tugboats.

That was good. Also, people are forever confusing "there" and "their". Wrong: It's there book. Right: It's their book.

Thank you Jamotto for that. Some people don't seem to realize what a disaster 9/11 was not just in terms of lives but economics too. That's what happens when you usually have eggs in one basket. Some of us around here have been saying that for a long time now but some people just want to hate Bush just for the hell of it. Look at their slogans "Anyone but Bush". That says it all.

The U.N. just isn't having any luck lately KABUL, Afghanistan -- The United Nations, which is helping to oversee the Afghan election, is in crisis talks with the country's presidential candidates to save the historic voting day, the country's first direct democratic election.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguar: True, true, but it's more........ diplomatic?.... Shall we say? Oh yeah.

I dunno it just doesn't have that same impact without the person I had originally slated for Takvah's role.