Kevin Trotter

Still watching and listening. I agree with you about the south as well. The south is the ancestral home of african americans so to speak, and more than ever they are returning to the south to live and raise there families. Just as I beleive that every conservative isn't like Lott , I don't for a moment feel that he is representattive of the New South.

quote:The question is are we going to have enough REAL Americans... posted by Jaguar Okay I'll bite. Just who are these REAL americans? Stuff like that makes my blood boil. If anyone has created "sheeple" (a truly disgusting term) It's been the corporations who have been successful in the "Malling" of our country turning it into a idolatrous , materialistic , me first society that is more concerned about the aquisition of things than they are about people. And when all else fails, lets dredge up a former lackey of the GOP's latest nation building project and demonize the shit out of him so no one asks why things are going so bad at home. Don't worry, be happy, buy more shit, spend more money. Rome had bread and circuses before it fell and we got SUV's and Starbucks. Signed , An apparently unreal american

Ditto. The best low impact aerobic workout there is , plus if you live near a big city chances are you may have an indoor public pool that is cheap and well maintained.

Just received notice that my card has been credited and that I will not recieve a copy of Steel Battallion due to "consumer demand" has this happened to anybody else? Shouldn't I get a raincheck or something?

I think what pisses me off the most about what passes for political debate around here is the insistence by the righties that not only is thier point of view the only one , but that anyone who disagrees is either stupid or a communist. That is an infantile positon and frankly offensive and beneath human dignity. So be it..you guys continue to see us that way and I will continue to pity you for your so obvious lack of compassion. Works out just fine.

Last night on BET Sen. Lott attempted to apologise again. Worse he spent 4 minutes explaining how he is defintely for Affirmative Action in all forms. Boy this just keeps gettin better. He also apologised for voting against the Civil Rights act of 1990 and against the MLK holiday. If it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny. Maybe the dems will take a page from the GOP's book and stretch this out as long as they can.

Touche, Lotharr as usual you are a voice of reason in a sea of right wing blather. Kudos. Decades after McCarthy they are still waving the communism-flag and attempting to smear by association all who don't go along blindly with thier Gordon Gekko pseudo-voodoo economics

$ilk is right about me being thinskinned about racial issues. Being subjected to varying degrees of prejudice daily for 40 years or so will do that to you. And $ilk I wish to God it was all over in the 60's like you seem to imply but it aint so. I'll be the first to admit much progress as been made , but I'll be damined if you think I'm going to sit still while you blame the contiued existence of racism on people who have the nerve to address it. (like Me). The problem is as a white person you will never be able to understand what it is like to be black in this country. I beleive you when you say you are not driven by race , but by politics. However you have the luxury of doing so cause you are the majority. I never meant to imply you were anything but insensitive. My wife accuses me of being insensitive in the regards of women's issues and I think she might be right. How would it sound for me to say women and men are treated equally in this country having never had to live as a woman? As far as Sen.Lott his implication is pretty clear and according to Time mag. this was not the first time he has made statements like this. As recently as 1990 he has spoken before known White supremisist groups and attempted to backtrack later,stating he was unaware of what the group's philosophy was. This was not a 'slip" or a mistatement as he would have us belive. Sen. Lott said what was in his heart and no backpedalling or scripted apologies will change my mind. Pres. Bush , whom I have many problems with , is not tolerant of this and it does not reflect his view of the GOP. He has placed minorities in key positions in his administration and comes from a family that has been pro-civil rights(Bush senior led an NAACP group in college) for years. The same can not be said for Mr. Lott , and if the Democrats are using this a political leverage I say turnabout is fair play. The bottom line is any fool who wants to continue to support someone dumb enough to say what Lott said is free to do so. The GOP is making great strides to be racially inclusive and we will see just how committed they are through this fiasco.

Again..not suprised DL.

Boy Jag you certainly know how to get one started! The only reason I can see is the Goaliejerry mentioned , the different angle. I know that afew guys I played football with used to catch Hell for being uncircumcised but I don't think they were permantly scarred. On the other hand any surgical procedure always has the chance of leaving a scar. Whew! Thank God I have a little girl!

Well $ilk why am I not suprised you don't think it's a big deal? I think I know when to be offended and when to worry as a person of color and don't have someone co-sign those feelings. What the man said was indefensible no matter how you try to clean it up. As for the Democrats I actually agree with you and am pissed off cause they really don't give a rat's ass about the statement and it's implication. That they would jump on the bandwagon to overly politicize the issue is gutless. Maybe Lott should step down cause the curtain is pulled back on what he feels in his heart and no amount of posturing is going to change that. No one black or white that harbors THOSE kinds of beleifs should lead thier party period. I wouldn't support Byrd as majority leader either. I don't think anybody I've dialogued with is a racist on this site , but it is safe to say there are those here with greater and lesser degrees of sensitivity when it comes to race and your statement has me wondering where you are on that scale.

Bring it on in any form(except Galatica 1980). There is no way it can suck more than Voyager and Enterprise. How about a war with the Rommulans like the one alluded to in Star Trek the Enterprise Incident. They alluded to a pre Federation war with a faceless enemy. Any way Galactica would be a needed change in any form [ 12-11-2002, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Race Bannon IV ]

Momentum is building as democrats are now asking that Lott be censured. I find it very curious that I haven't heard a WORD from my conservo friends on this incident. No opinions guys? THAT would be first!

Hmm...*scrathes head* a curious silence indeed.

I saw something on one of the Christian channels that offered this as eplanation of dinosaurs; they did exist but only 5 or 10 thousand years ago. The creationist do not accept carbon dating as a way to check the age of an artifact. They feel human and dinosaurs co-existed. They do not explain how all the dinosaurs died but man was left unharmed. Go figure.

I guess SOME and I do stress SOME conservatives feel so confortable now that the they can say what's really on thier minds. Majority leader Sen. Trent Lott was recently quoted as saying that if then Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond had been elected president in 1948 instead of Truman(responsible for desegregating the US armed forces-my reference not thiers)" all these problems" would have been avoided. Lott later apologized but would not elaborate on what he meant by" all these problems" , but since Thurman's central campaign issue were segregation and racial integrety one can only hazzard a guess. AL Gore as called the remarks "racist" and I have a hard time disagreeing though I would not be comfortable calling Lott a racist. I am sure that I was deeply offended by the remark and it's implications. Some have called for Lott to resign but again this is unlikely to happen and a bit premature. It does however , not portend well for people of color looking for compassionate conservatism from the GOP if thier leader could let slip such an inflamatory remark

Race's must see TV list JAG- MS Bell is simply incredible. 24- The best(and fastest)hour on tv Sopranos- More out of habit than anything else Malcolm in the Middle-Funny,funny,funny. Boston Public- fading fast Enterprise-Better get good fast Robbery Homicide-Great show so it will probably be cancelled The Agency-Ditto but not as good as RHD Scrubs-Soil your shorts funny Shows that should go now , please ER- now while you have some dignity and I still have my lunch. All reality shows except Cheaters The Practice-please have you any mercy? Alias-What next Sydney's crack addicted double agent grandmother in law? Touched by an Angel- Touch me in the morning then just walk away , please NYPD Blue-Like Sipowitz could get TWO chicks that hot in real life.It's official Blue is a sci-fi show. Farscape-Okay now even I can't keep up with this one.

In 1997 A spokesman from the Pentagon went on tv and admitted that that the Air Force lied about Roswell. However he explained it was not a UFO or a weather baloon but another project that was so secret they can only now say what is was : Project Mogul , an attempt to monitor Soviet atomic blast test. this stunning revealation came about because a a Us Senator(maybe he's a Congressman) pressed the issue repeatedly. So let me get this right ..The Gov't says sorry we lied in 1947 but we're telling the truth now? it was a ballon so secret that we kept it to ourselves long after it was technologically redundant? I don't know what happened in Roswell but if we are waiting on truth from the gov't don't hold your breath and watch the skies

First son? Good work Jag,I'm proud of you! Congrats to you and your family and may you all continue to recieve blessings.

Dear Lothar, I really feel for you.I read your posts and am heartened that SOME people in here have a legitimate concern for others less fortunate than themselves. It is much easier to refer to all poor people has people who don't want to work and have designs on some middle class dope with illusions of wealth. There are folks in here who suck up to the ruling class so much THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE PART OF IT! They are not . They are us . They just don't get it. You are wasting precious time trying valiantly to appeal to the soul-less. And yes dear readers if you think you were put here to only look out for yourself and have disdain for the less fortunate then yes I mean you. Just an opinion. This directed to you , not them though as you are reading this up they are already warming up the propoganda machine to flame this post. Go ahead be my guest. Give it up Lotharr, you are better than this and any more responses while I appreciate reading them , is like wasting Shakespeare on apes. You will never get them to question one belief , ponder that there may be two sides to a story , or introduce some information that does anything more than confirm their original opinion. That's sad. I for one have read post from opposing views that caused me to question what I beleive. On many occassions Jag will write something that informs me of something I didn't know , but not once have I seen evidence of any real exchange of ideas on their part. It is an exercise in futility so I have decided to spend my time on something more fruitful. Last week I joined a group of men who mentor at risk youth. I expect I'll have less time on the forums(and less time at the joystick)but since we liberals are so despised I don't think my absence will be noticible. So I urge you to not beat your head against the wall , it don't change the wall and is a constant source of headaches

Uhh...yeah DL hadn't thought about that. I'm leaving work to get it now. See you guys in about a week

Pre ordered awhile ago after reading about it in XBox mag. If mine isnt there you might not hear from me in the forums for awhile. Something about assault and battery.....

I just knew this movie sucked. It was over for Segall when he tried to have Genghis Khan remade with him playing the title role. (LOL!)

The bark ain't all that's big. You have been warned.

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